Julia Charvolen:Welcome to the ALAC Monthly call on Tuesday 24 September 2013 at 1400 UTC
  Julia Charvolen:Agenda: https://community.icann.org/x/egqMAg
  Ali Almeshal:it is ok I think I am connected but I am no sure if you hear me
  Ali Almeshal:I can hear
  Eduardo Diaz:¡Saludos a todos!
  Julia Charvolen:Would you like for us to dial out to you Ali?
  Ali Almeshal:no I am fine
  Heidi Ullrich:Hi All
  Ali Almeshal:hi
  Siranush Vardanyan:Hello, all, I will be via adobe connect
  Fatima Cambronero:hello everyone
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Hi All
  Evan Leibovitch:Need
  Evan Leibovitch:Coffee
  Fatima Cambronero:one for me too @Evan :)
  Julie Hammer:Hi Everyone,  Looks like it is 'Listen only' mode from where I am.  I will type in the chat room if I have anything.
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Hello everyone
  Sandra Hoferichter:hello all
  Natalia Enciso:Hello
  JJS:hello, I'm on.
  Alan Greenberg:Olivier sure sounds perky!
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:none now
  Sandra Hoferichter:@Juli same here, where is the using my computer audio option?
  Leon Sanchez:Hello everyone
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Is the room audio enabled?
  Julie Hammer:Doesn't seem to be working today, Sandra.
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:I'm listenning  via AC  (as well as bridge)  just fine  not sure abiut  input that NEVER works for me these days...
  JJS:microphones now on
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Indeed
  Julie Hammer:Thanks, Julia!
  Julia Charvolen:yes little Adobe Connect issue here!!
  Julia Charvolen:Thank you
  JJS:audio, poor quality
  Julia Charvolen:Ron Sherwood joined the Adobe Connect
  Ali Almeshal:Hi Heidi can you call me pls 39440025
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:YAHoo
  Julia Charvolen:Garth Graham joined the Adobe Connect
  Julia Charvolen:We will call you Ali
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Yes they need t run in parallel  to meet the time line needs
  JJS:yes Olivier
  Eduardo Diaz:no sound
  JJS:ok, problem settled, have voted.
  Heidi Ullrich:JJS, you are on AC only
  Julia Charvolen:Jean Jacques are you on mute?
  JJS:Matt, poor audio
  Julia Charvolen:Rinalia Abdul Rahim joined the Adobe Connect
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:I think Tijanis point is that once DD is back to RALO and while advice is coming back a different  stage title  needs tio be used
  Natalia Enciso:Can you call me back, please?
  Julia Charvolen:sure Natalia
  Beran Gillen:Me too Julia, My line dropped
  Julia Charvolen:You should be back on Beran
  Julia Charvolen:are you?
  Beran Gillen:Thank you I am back
  Julia Charvolen:perfect thank you
  JJS:Alan, echo.
  Julia Charvolen:Beran you've been muted, your line is the echo
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:my line doesn't sound too good. The voice is staggered
  Natalia Enciso:back, thanks
  Heidi Ullrich:Julie, could you please mute your microphone?
  Julia Charvolen:Julie you have been muted, noise on your line
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:VERY  well
  Heidi Ullrich:Julie is on the AC only, Apologies for the quality
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:There was some choppy parts  but I heard Julie  fine  Loud and Clear
  Julia Charvolen:Julie you have been muted again
  Julia Charvolen:thank you
  JJS:Alan +1
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Chery you're next.
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I've been dropped
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Cheryl
  Julia Charvolen:Operator is dialing back to Olivier
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I am listening on the Adigo
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Adobe I mean
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:ADIGO is calling the wrong number.
  Eduardo Diaz:Collude: come to a secret understanding for a harmful purpose; conspire.
  JJS:audio has become confidential, like ducks in a submarine.
  Julia Charvolen:Olivier is back on phone bridge
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:not me
  JJS:It was a very good draft!
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:it needed to be critical my opinion  would be unprrintablr  on that consuktant contribution ...
  Roberto:CLO: and therefore more interesting to us...
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr::-)
  Silvia Vivanco::) :)
  JJS:Agree with Evan, too late now.
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:+1
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:But that can be 'New Business'
  JJS:Olivier, we can take up these wider issues, but looking forward rather than to the last WCIT.
  Evan Leibovitch:I agree on the update, but that is looking forward rather than back
  JJS:(ha, FCWG co-chairs pushing forward)
  Evan Leibovitch:This also affects Regulatory issues and Future Challenges WGs
  Evan Leibovitch:Catlton has also expressed an interest
  Evan Leibovitch:Everything to do with ICANN had to be done yesterday :-P
  Carlton:Hi Everyone
  Julia Charvolen:Carlton has joined the Adobe connect room
  Carlton:Just getting a chance to come on; had an unscheduled situation to attend
  Carlton:On the bridge as well
  Evan Leibovitch:The really good news about the metrics is that the ALAC additional metrics have the same Board endorsement as the GNSO ones.
  Julia Charvolen:Thank you Carlton
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Indeed @Evan
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:I agree to endorse Evan
  Heidi Ullrich:@Olivier, was that an AI re the Consumer Trust group?
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:yes
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Hand up when the ALAC has finalised theor deliberations on this matter please OCL
  Evan Leibovitch:I am quite fine with compromise, and understand the constraints.
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:withdraw my hand up
  Heidi Ullrich:At-Large Board Selection Workspace: https://community.icann.org/display/ABMS/At-Large+Board+Member+Selection+Home
  Heidi Ullrich:Welcome, Beran! Your first ALAC call :)
  Beran Gillen:Thank you Heidi
  Beran Gillen:yes I am seriously trying to catch up
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:BMSPC
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Board Member Selection Process Committee
  Carlton:@Alan: I have always beleived that Evan's arguments in the CT matter is shared by the ALAC.  I personally support them down the line.  I am aslo sensitive to your concerns and share them; It would be foolish to believe the opponents of our general position would not seek to isolate Evan since it has been done before.  It was this calculation on which I volunteered to serve WITH Evan; principally to provide covering fire and additional ammunition
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:BCEC  has to be at arm length from ALAC  per se...but you can appoint a Chair voting or non voting up to you
  Carlton:@Alan: Would there be a difficulty with the ALAC sitting  en banc as BMSPC?
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Q: can one be a member of both the BMSPC and BCEC ?
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:zYes if you are Regional  Rep
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:LOL
  Carlton:@Alan: Experience is good but not suffiocient; a mix of ALAC and non-ALAC is EXACTLY the formula I was supposing
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:you can be a zMember of both that is clear
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:only one who may not be a voter in BCEC  is an ALAC appointed Chair
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:BUT the matter of electorate vote is different
  Alan Greenberg:@CLO, but the post-mortem recommended that the BCEC chair have a vote in some circumstances. The RoP in fact are silent on whether the Chair always votes, never votes or votes on some conditions. It is a BMSPC decision, or if the BMSPC is silent, then the BCEC can decide for itself.
  Alan Greenberg:ATijani, you are correct that the folks who populated the committees for the last selection had no experiience doing it before, but a considerable number had a *LOT* of involvement in crafting all of the rules and processes and who new them (and their motivation) backwards and forwards.
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:it would be good to have a mix of new people and
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:a couple of people who are experienced
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:yes a mix would be excellent  AND  a FORM commitment to be totally engaged with the quite demanding BCEC work processes  would be nice too ;-)
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:FORM  = FIRM  sorry typing in the dark again...
  Holly Raiche:Absolutely agree with Evan's point
  Carlton:@Evan:  Thanks for  reminding us of the THIRD reason; the Compliance Monitoring!!
  Evan Leibovitch:Alan: while I appreciate your attempt to answer, this is as much a matter of Fadi's failure to follow up as a lack of response.
  Holly Raiche:You bet we would!
  Alan Greenberg:Wasn't attempting to forgive him for that. Just giving the insioght (correct or incorrect) that had been told to me.
  Carlton:@Alan: I think the explanation is credible.  But Fadi's pronouncements and the operational reorganisation suggests that there is a change in the conceptual framework for the registrant stakehoklder. Especially when all they changed is the title.
  Alan Greenberg:As I said, if my rationale is indeed correct, it was badly botched.
  JJS:Holly +1.
  Carlton:@Holly: Oh yes, almost forgot how this looks to Third Party beneficiaries.
  Alan Greenberg:Cannot locate any clause that titles do not count.
  Julie Hammer:Apologies, but I will need to leave the meeting in a couple of minutes.
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:I Second Evan'a motion.
  Julie Hammer:Bye everyone!
  JJS:Red Cross?! Reserved!
  Carlton:Bye Julie
  Evan Leibovitch:JJ: what a mess
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:It was collusion!
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Ha
  JJS:Hello folks, this is going out of hand. Chair, get us back please.
  Evan Leibovitch:The chair claims to be bound by limitation in process
  Alan Greenberg:I beleive the Chair was in error.
  Carlton:@Alan: We cannot deny the outcome so sentient people could reasonably conclude collusion
  Siranush Vardanyan:yes, Sandra, we can hear you well
  Alan Greenberg:If there was strong consensus to do something, or to NOT do something, that should be accurately reported.
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Agree
  Tijani BEN JEMAA:dropped
  Tijani BEN JEMAA:plz call again
  Julia Charvolen:We are dialing back Tijani
  Heidi Ullrich:Thanks, Sandra. You are spending even more time!!
  Julia Charvolen:Cheryl you have been muted , there is noise on your line
  Eduardo Diaz:Kudos for Sandra!
  Fatima Cambronero:+ 1
  Natalia Enciso:+1 Sandra!
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:It has been a very long road for you Sandra on this.  Congratulations on finally seeing realization of the idea after nearly 2 years!
  Heidi Ullrich:Facilitors
  Heidi Ullrich:;)
  Sandra Hoferichter:Thank you for the virtual flowers
  Heidi Ullrich:Outreach Subcommitee update - call for membership now open!
  Heidi Ullrich:Olivier and I will be having a meeting tomorrow to confirm Saturday meeting rooms
  Heidi Ullrich:to confirm several breakout rooms
  Heidi Ullrich:with Meeting staff
  Heidi Ullrich:HUGE Event!!!
  Roberto:Leaving, unfortunately...
  Heidi Ullrich:Bye, Roberto
  Heidi Ullrich:Eduardo, dropped
  Heidi Ullrich:dialing back
  Heidi Ullrich:Eduardo, what is you number?
  Heidi Ullrich:or will you dial back in ?
  Eduardo Diaz:I was talking to myself
  Eduardo Diaz:i am calling back
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:sorry Eduardo. §You were unmuted to start with & then disappeared....
  Julia Charvolen:Thank you Eduardo
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Tijani has provided us with an update
  Eduardo Diaz:I am back. Was Tijani able to update the group about the MSWG?
  Heidi Ullrich:Yes
  Eduardo Diaz:Ok
  Eduardo Diaz:Tijani - > Thanks
  Alan Greenberg:If open forum is Thurs am and wrap-up in Thurs PM, then decisisonas on any public statement must be decided PRIOR to the wrapup.
  Alan Greenberg:Sounds like public meeting is now effectiveily reduced to 3 days.
  Holly Raiche:I would really hate to lose the Multistakeholder Forum - it has really been successful.  Even 90 minutes would be useful
  Alan Greenberg:No wonder we are squeezed for time.
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:lol
  Alan Greenberg:I think that we need a new WG on acronym creation.
  JJS:Sorry, will be leaving this call now. Have a nice day/evening/night!
  Evan Leibovitch:hard stop at 30 past
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:CROPP
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:my line dropped  but I'm OK in AC as there is no need for me to speak again...
  Heidi Ullrich:The CROPP is for regional trips only
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:old hand
  Siranush Vardanyan:+1 Tijani
  Julia Charvolen:Holly we will dail out to you
  Heidi Ullrich:There is a checklist that the requests will need to go through
  Heidi Ullrich:It is expected that each request will take 8 weeks to process
  Heidi Ullrich:So RALOs should start identifying regional events where outreach can take place
  Heidi Ullrich:There are still questions on how travel will be booked, etc
  Heidi Ullrich:but staff are working on finding solutions
  Siranush Vardanyan:maybe the list can be started with the first Armenian IGF, planned in the beginning of November, where I will be presenting the information about ICANN fellowship program. no need for funds for this case though:)
  Julia Charvolen:Holly we cant get hold of you, we will dial out to you again
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:surely  we antipodeans  can mmanage  via AC  for this last part of the meeting?
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:yes  this is good  for ATRTII
  Sandra Hoferichter:I have the next call in 1.5 hours and must spent this time with my daughter now (dinner, homework etc.) Sorry have to leave now. Bye all
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:bye  sandra
  Heidi Ullrich:Bye, Sandra
  Carlton:Bye Sandra
  Natalia Enciso:I have to leave now. Sorry but have urgent matters at work.
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:all good thanks  for the call OCL and thanks everyone... tqlk to some of you again soon....
  Leon Sanchez:Congratulations!
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Yay!
  Siranush Vardanyan:Congratulations, lovely name
  Carlton:Beautiful name!!!   Yaaaaah. Congrats to Gisella
  Carlton:Bye all
  Fatima Cambronero:Congrats Gisella! :)
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr::-)
  Natalia Enciso:Congrats Gisella!
  Natalia Enciso:bye all.
  Holly Raiche:Congrats
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:No!
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:No
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:pass on our group congrats and welcome to At-Large
  Ron Sherwood:Thank you everyone... Bye 'til next time
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:thanks ALL!!!
  Heidi Ullrich:Thanks!!!
  Leon Sanchez:Thak you all for a very productive call. Bye!
  Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Bye
  Heidi Ullrich:Will do, Cheryll
  Siranush Vardanyan:thanks all
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:bye
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Thanks everyone, take care all
  Fatima Cambronero:thanks to the interpreters! thanks all, bye
  Silvia Vivanco:Bye all
  Maureen Hilyard:Bye everyone'
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