Julia Charvolen:Welcome to the ALAC Monthly call on Tuesday 24 September 2013 at 1400 UTC
Julia Charvolen:Agenda: https://community.icann.org/x/egqMAg
Ali Almeshal:it is ok I think I am connected but I am no sure if you hear me
Ali Almeshal:I can hear
Eduardo Diaz:¡Saludos a todos!
Julia Charvolen:Would you like for us to dial out to you Ali?
Ali Almeshal:no I am fine
Heidi Ullrich:Hi All
Siranush Vardanyan:Hello, all, I will be via adobe connect
Fatima Cambronero:hello everyone
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Hi All
Fatima Cambronero:one for me too @Evan :)
Julie Hammer:Hi Everyone, Looks like it is 'Listen only' mode from where I am. I will type in the chat room if I have anything.
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Hello everyone
Sandra Hoferichter:hello all
JJS:hello, I'm on.
Alan Greenberg:Olivier sure sounds perky!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:none now
Sandra Hoferichter:@Juli same here, where is the using my computer audio option?
Leon Sanchez:Hello everyone
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Is the room audio enabled?
Julie Hammer:Doesn't seem to be working today, Sandra.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:I'm listenning via AC (as well as bridge) just fine not sure abiut input that NEVER works for me these days...
JJS:microphones now on
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Indeed
Julie Hammer:Thanks, Julia!
Julia Charvolen:yes little Adobe Connect issue here!!
Julia Charvolen:Thank you
JJS:audio, poor quality
Julia Charvolen:Ron Sherwood joined the Adobe Connect
Ali Almeshal:Hi Heidi can you call me pls 39440025
Julia Charvolen:Garth Graham joined the Adobe Connect
Julia Charvolen:We will call you Ali
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Yes they need t run in parallel to meet the time line needs
Eduardo Diaz:no sound
JJS:ok, problem settled, have voted.
Heidi Ullrich:JJS, you are on AC only
Julia Charvolen:Jean Jacques are you on mute?
JJS:Matt, poor audio
Julia Charvolen:Rinalia Abdul Rahim joined the Adobe Connect
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:I think Tijanis point is that once DD is back to RALO and while advice is coming back a different stage title needs tio be used
Natalia Enciso:Can you call me back, please?
Julia Charvolen:sure Natalia
Beran Gillen:Me too Julia, My line dropped
Julia Charvolen:You should be back on Beran
Julia Charvolen:are you?
Beran Gillen:Thank you I am back
Julia Charvolen:perfect thank you
Julia Charvolen:Beran you've been muted, your line is the echo
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:my line doesn't sound too good. The voice is staggered
Natalia Enciso:back, thanks
Heidi Ullrich:Julie, could you please mute your microphone?
Julia Charvolen:Julie you have been muted, noise on your line
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:VERY well
Heidi Ullrich:Julie is on the AC only, Apologies for the quality
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:There was some choppy parts but I heard Julie fine Loud and Clear
Heidi Ullrich:SSAC Report: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/SSAC+Liaison+Reports
Julia Charvolen:Julie you have been muted again
Julia Charvolen:thank you
Heidi Ullrich:Policy Development workspace: https://community.icann.org/display/alacpolicydev/At-Large+Policy+Development+Page
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Chery you're next.
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I've been dropped
Julia Charvolen:Operator is dialing back to Olivier
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I am listening on the Adigo
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Adobe I mean
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:ADIGO is calling the wrong number.
Eduardo Diaz:Collude: come to a secret understanding for a harmful purpose; conspire.
JJS:audio has become confidential, like ducks in a submarine.
Julia Charvolen:Olivier is back on phone bridge
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:not me
JJS:It was a very good draft!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:it needed to be critical my opinion would be unprrintablr on that consuktant contribution ...
Roberto:CLO: and therefore more interesting to us...
Silvia Vivanco::) :)
JJS:Agree with Evan, too late now.
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:+1
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:But that can be 'New Business'
JJS:Olivier, we can take up these wider issues, but looking forward rather than to the last WCIT.
Evan Leibovitch:I agree on the update, but that is looking forward rather than back
JJS:(ha, FCWG co-chairs pushing forward)
Evan Leibovitch:This also affects Regulatory issues and Future Challenges WGs
Evan Leibovitch:Catlton has also expressed an interest
Evan Leibovitch:Everything to do with ICANN had to be done yesterday :-P
Julia Charvolen:Carlton has joined the Adobe connect room
Carlton:Just getting a chance to come on; had an unscheduled situation to attend
Carlton:On the bridge as well
Evan Leibovitch:The really good news about the metrics is that the ALAC additional metrics have the same Board endorsement as the GNSO ones.
Julia Charvolen:Thank you Carlton
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Indeed @Evan
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:I agree to endorse Evan
Heidi Ullrich:@Olivier, was that an AI re the Consumer Trust group?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Hand up when the ALAC has finalised theor deliberations on this matter please OCL
Evan Leibovitch:I am quite fine with compromise, and understand the constraints.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:withdraw my hand up
Heidi Ullrich:At-Large Board Selection Workspace: https://community.icann.org/display/ABMS/At-Large+Board+Member+Selection+Home
Heidi Ullrich:Welcome, Beran! Your first ALAC call :)
Beran Gillen:Thank you Heidi
Beran Gillen:yes I am seriously trying to catch up
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Board Member Selection Process Committee
Carlton:@Alan: I have always beleived that Evan's arguments in the CT matter is shared by the ALAC. I personally support them down the line. I am aslo sensitive to your concerns and share them; It would be foolish to believe the opponents of our general position would not seek to isolate Evan since it has been done before. It was this calculation on which I volunteered to serve WITH Evan; principally to provide covering fire and additional ammunition
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:BCEC has to be at arm length from ALAC per se...but you can appoint a Chair voting or non voting up to you
Carlton:@Alan: Would there be a difficulty with the ALAC sitting en banc as BMSPC?
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Q: can one be a member of both the BMSPC and BCEC ?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:zYes if you are Regional Rep
Carlton:@Alan: Experience is good but not suffiocient; a mix of ALAC and non-ALAC is EXACTLY the formula I was supposing
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:you can be a zMember of both that is clear
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:only one who may not be a voter in BCEC is an ALAC appointed Chair
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:BUT the matter of electorate vote is different
Heidi Ullrich:WHOIS WG Workspace: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Whois+Policy
Heidi Ullrich:RRR WG Workspace: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Registrants+Rights+and+Responsibilities
Alan Greenberg:@CLO, but the post-mortem recommended that the BCEC chair have a vote in some circumstances. The RoP in fact are silent on whether the Chair always votes, never votes or votes on some conditions. It is a BMSPC decision, or if the BMSPC is silent, then the BCEC can decide for itself.
Alan Greenberg:ATijani, you are correct that the folks who populated the committees for the last selection had no experiience doing it before, but a considerable number had a *LOT* of involvement in crafting all of the rules and processes and who new them (and their motivation) backwards and forwards.
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:it would be good to have a mix of new people and
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:a couple of people who are experienced
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:yes a mix would be excellent AND a FORM commitment to be totally engaged with the quite demanding BCEC work processes would be nice too ;-)
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:FORM = FIRM sorry typing in the dark again...
Holly Raiche:Absolutely agree with Evan's point
Carlton:@Evan: Thanks for reminding us of the THIRD reason; the Compliance Monitoring!!
Evan Leibovitch:Alan: while I appreciate your attempt to answer, this is as much a matter of Fadi's failure to follow up as a lack of response.
Holly Raiche:You bet we would!
Alan Greenberg:Wasn't attempting to forgive him for that. Just giving the insioght (correct or incorrect) that had been told to me.
Carlton:@Alan: I think the explanation is credible. But Fadi's pronouncements and the operational reorganisation suggests that there is a change in the conceptual framework for the registrant stakehoklder. Especially when all they changed is the title.
Alan Greenberg:As I said, if my rationale is indeed correct, it was badly botched.
Carlton:@Holly: Oh yes, almost forgot how this looks to Third Party beneficiaries.
Alan Greenberg:Cannot locate any clause that titles do not count.
Julie Hammer:Apologies, but I will need to leave the meeting in a couple of minutes.
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:I Second Evan'a motion.
Julie Hammer:Bye everyone!
JJS:Red Cross?! Reserved!
Evan Leibovitch:JJ: what a mess
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:It was collusion!
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Ha
JJS:Hello folks, this is going out of hand. Chair, get us back please.
Evan Leibovitch:The chair claims to be bound by limitation in process
Alan Greenberg:I beleive the Chair was in error.
Heidi Ullrich:Academy WG: https://community.icann.org/display/Improve/At-Large+ICANN+Academy+Ad-Hoc+Working+Group
Carlton:@Alan: We cannot deny the outcome so sentient people could reasonably conclude collusion
Siranush Vardanyan:yes, Sandra, we can hear you well
Alan Greenberg:If there was strong consensus to do something, or to NOT do something, that should be accurately reported.
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Agree
Tijani BEN JEMAA:dropped
Tijani BEN JEMAA:plz call again
Julia Charvolen:We are dialing back Tijani
Heidi Ullrich:Thanks, Sandra. You are spending even more time!!
Julia Charvolen:Cheryl you have been muted , there is noise on your line
Eduardo Diaz:Kudos for Sandra!
Fatima Cambronero:+ 1
Natalia Enciso:+1 Sandra!
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:It has been a very long road for you Sandra on this. Congratulations on finally seeing realization of the idea after nearly 2 years!
Heidi Ullrich:ATLAS II Workspace: https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=39420675
Eduardo Diaz:ATLAS II: Timeline: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ATLAS+II+Timeline , Todsay call:https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ATLAS+II+Survey+Group+-+2013.09.24
Sandra Hoferichter:Thank you for the virtual flowers
Heidi Ullrich:Outreach Subcommitee update - call for membership now open!
Heidi Ullrich:Olivier and I will be having a meeting tomorrow to confirm Saturday meeting rooms
Heidi Ullrich:to confirm several breakout rooms
Heidi Ullrich:with Meeting staff
Heidi Ullrich:HUGE Event!!!
Heidi Ullrich:Capacity Building WG: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Capacity+Building+Working+Group
Heidi Ullrich:Metrics WG: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Metrics+Sub+Committee
Heidi Ullrich:MSWG workspace: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Meetings+Strategy+Working+Group+Workspace
Heidi Ullrich:Bye, Roberto
Heidi Ullrich:Eduardo, dropped
Heidi Ullrich:dialing back
Heidi Ullrich:Eduardo, what is you number?
Heidi Ullrich:or will you dial back in ?
Eduardo Diaz:I was talking to myself
Heidi Ullrich:BA page: https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=41900472
Eduardo Diaz:i am calling back
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:sorry Eduardo. §You were unmuted to start with & then disappeared....
Julia Charvolen:Thank you Eduardo
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Tijani has provided us with an update
Eduardo Diaz:I am back. Was Tijani able to update the group about the MSWG?
Eduardo Diaz:Tijani - > Thanks
Alan Greenberg:If open forum is Thurs am and wrap-up in Thurs PM, then decisisonas on any public statement must be decided PRIOR to the wrapup.
Alan Greenberg:Sounds like public meeting is now effectiveily reduced to 3 days.
Holly Raiche:I would really hate to lose the Multistakeholder Forum - it has really been successful. Even 90 minutes would be useful
Alan Greenberg:No wonder we are squeezed for time.
Alan Greenberg:I think that we need a new WG on acronym creation.
JJS:Sorry, will be leaving this call now. Have a nice day/evening/night!
Evan Leibovitch:hard stop at 30 past
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:my line dropped but I'm OK in AC as there is no need for me to speak again...
Heidi Ullrich:The CROPP is for regional trips only
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:old hand
Siranush Vardanyan:+1 Tijani
Julia Charvolen:Holly we will dail out to you
Heidi Ullrich:There is a checklist that the requests will need to go through
Heidi Ullrich:It is expected that each request will take 8 weeks to process
Heidi Ullrich:So RALOs should start identifying regional events where outreach can take place
Heidi Ullrich:There are still questions on how travel will be booked, etc
Heidi Ullrich:but staff are working on finding solutions
Siranush Vardanyan:maybe the list can be started with the first Armenian IGF, planned in the beginning of November, where I will be presenting the information about ICANN fellowship program. no need for funds for this case though:)
Julia Charvolen:Holly we cant get hold of you, we will dial out to you again
Heidi Ullrich:ATRT2 meeting in DC wiki - https://community.icann.org/display/ATRT2/Washington+DC+-+19-20+September+2013
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:surely we antipodeans can mmanage via AC for this last part of the meeting?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:yes this is good for ATRTII
Sandra Hoferichter:I have the next call in 1.5 hours and must spent this time with my daughter now (dinner, homework etc.) Sorry have to leave now. Bye all
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:bye sandra
Heidi Ullrich:Bye, Sandra
Natalia Enciso:I have to leave now. Sorry but have urgent matters at work.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:all good thanks for the call OCL and thanks everyone... tqlk to some of you again soon....
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Yay!
Siranush Vardanyan:Congratulations, lovely name
Carlton:Beautiful name!!! Yaaaaah. Congrats to Gisella
Fatima Cambronero:Congrats Gisella! :)
Natalia Enciso:Congrats Gisella!
Natalia Enciso:bye all.
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:No!
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:No
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:pass on our group congrats and welcome to At-Large
Ron Sherwood:Thank you everyone... Bye 'til next time
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:thanks ALL!!!
Leon Sanchez:Thak you all for a very productive call. Bye!
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Bye
Heidi Ullrich:Will do, Cheryll
Siranush Vardanyan:thanks all
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Thanks everyone, take care all
Fatima Cambronero:thanks to the interpreters! thanks all, bye
Silvia Vivanco:Bye all
Maureen Hilyard:Bye everyone'