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 **AC Room: https://participate.icann.org/naralo/                          

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Dial Out Participants:

EN: Allan Skuce, Eduardo Diaz,  Glenn McKnight, Gordon Chillcott, Cheryl Langdon-Orr, Judith Hellerstein, Javier Rua Jovet, Jonathan Zuck, Joel Thayer, Leah Symekher, Alan Greenberg, Alfredo Calderon, Dustin Phillips, Yubelkys Montalvo, Susannah Gray

Apologies: Anna Loup

Staff:  Silvia Vivanco, Heidi Ullrich, Joe Catapano, Andrea Glandon

Call Management:  Andrea Glandon

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Summary Minutes:    

Action Items: EN

Recording:   EN

AC Recording: EN

AC Chat: EN    

Transcript: EN EN

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AGENDA

1. Attendance (

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10/45)

This section is to record the meeting attendance.

ALS (Total

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9CA/

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13US) - Attendance (

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22

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ALS

REP

ALT

USCA
1Pacific Community Networks Association/CAAllan Skuce (P)Bev Collins
2Nova Scotia Community Access Program/CADana Perry Erick Stackhouse

P
3ISOC DC/USDustin Phillips (P)John More P
4ISOC PR/PREduardo Díaz (P)Alfredo Calderón (P)P
5Canadian Association for Open Source (CLUE)/CAEvan Leibovitch Mathew Rice
X
6Foundation For Build. Sustainable Communities/CAGlenn McKnight (P)Robert T Bell
P
7Greater Toronto Area Linux User Group/CAGordon Chillcott (P)Scott Sullivan
P
8Knujon/USGrath Bruen -X
9Association of Internet Users/US :: ALAC 2017-19John LaPriseCristina WilllardX
10ISOC NY/USJoly McFie Greg ShatanX
11Capital Area Globetrotters/USJudith Hellerstein (P)Le-Marie ThompsonP
12Consumers Council of Canada/CA

Kenneth L. Whitehurst

Howard Dean
X
13ISOC CO/US

Karen Mulberry

-X
14ISOC SF/USLeah Sykmekher  (P)Susannah Gray (P)P
15Native Public Media/USLoris Taylor Elyse Dempsey
X
16Telecommunities Canada/CA Marita Moll Garth Graham
X
17Communautique/CAMonique Chartrand -
X
18The IP/Tech. Section of the HI State Bar Assoc./USSeth ReissTracey OhtaX
19ISOC Quebec/CADestiny Tchehouali
Robert Castonguay
X
20ISOC Canada/CAShelley Robinson Murray McKercher 
X
21Connecting.nyc Inc./USThomas Lowenhaupt Robert PollardX
22Hispanic Educational Tech. Services (HETS)/PRYubelkys Montalvo (P)Yelixa CastroP
23At-Large North American Graduate Students/USDavid Cristian Morar Anna Cecile Loup X

For updates please contact Evin Erdoğdu, At-Large Staff.

*P=Present

RED = Under decertification

Unaffiliated (Total

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23 ::

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6CA/17US) Attendance (

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2/22) 

Region1CA4561314161820

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Name

US
CA
Adrian Schmidt
CAX
2Alan Greenberg
X
3Daniel WrightUSX
David AllnutUS
X
Endrias ZewdeX
Edward HasbrouckCAX
George KirikosEndrias ZewdeUS
X
Javier Rúa 7Javier Rúa Jovet PRP
8Jean Armour PollyUSX
9Jeongwon RyuUSX
10Jonathan Zuck USP
11Kristian Stout USX
12Linda KaiserUSX
Michelangelo De SimoneUS
X
Nathalie CoupetX
Philip RighterUSX
15Roberto GuerraCA
X
Roland YarbroughUSX
17Thomas StruettUSW CampbellX
Thomas W CampbellStruettUSX
19Wendy SeltzerUSX
Wes Boudville USX
21William Cunningham US
22Nathalie CoupetUS
X


2. Approval of the Agenda & Discussion Order 

This section is to record the approval of this meeting agenda and its discussion order. (00:01/00:01)

→ 13 August [Recording: XX04:XX00]  Approved with no changes. [Decision]: Carry forward to next meeting 

3. Meeting Discussion Order 

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Item

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Discussion



Lead

Allotted Time/Running Time

025

CROP FY18

→: To provide an update/report for the following CROP supported events:  

  • ARIN 41 (William).
  • Glenn Digital inclusion leads: First Nations doing libraries throughout the Midwest, 
  • Glenn RightsCon leads: Canadian National Institute of the Blind (CNIB)
  • Judith RightsCon leads: two Canadians and US non-profits

William

Glenn

Judith


(00:04 / 00:05)

005

2018 NomCom update report

→: To provide an update on NomCom work in the past month

Leah(00:05 / 00:10)
032

NARALO.ORG 

→: To call for volunteers to provide feedback about the NARALO.ORG  website as to navigation and content. Google doc https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eccGcU7zwvw_lMkE2jAx38QBG-LQsNAjM7BLvEmaaOE/edit?usp=sharing

Glenn

(00:05 / 00:15)

026

NARALO ALAC members Update Reports

→: To provide a summary by our current NARALO representatives in ALAC of what was discussed since our last meeting in ALAC regarding policy and anything else that the region should be aware about.

Javier

John L.

Alan

(00:10 / 00:25)

039

IGF USA

→: To share experiences and insights by NARALO members that attended this event

Dustin

John M.

Glenn

Judith

Jonathan

Others (question)

(00:10 / 00:35)
038

SWebinar :: Work Ahead to meet the Implementation Review

→: Short presentation on the "Work Ahead to meet the Implementation Review" (https://community.icann.org/display/ALRW/At-Large+Review+Implementation+Overview+Proposal) based on the 'Organizational Review of the At-Large - Final Report and Recommendations' approved by the ICANN Board (https://www.icann.org/resources/board-material/resolutions-2018-06-23-en#1.h). During the ICANN Panama Meeting some ideas where shared as to what lies ahead for RALOs.

Alan's Slides

Cheryl's Slides

Alan

Cheryl

(00:35 / 01:00)
if we get to them...
017

NARALO Outreach Group Update Report

→: To provide a summary of the NARALO Outreach Group efforts since our last call
Glenn
028

NARALO Policy Group Update Report

→: To provide an update report by the head of the Policy Group as to the ICANN policies being discussed at the moment affecting NARALO end-users and/or interest to NARALO members in general

Jonathan



029

NARALO Education Group Update Report

→: To provide provide an update report by the head of the Educational Group since our last call.

Alfredo
-Any Other Business (AOB)All-
-Next meeting: 13 August 2018 @19:00 UTC--

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09 July [Recording: 53:20]  [Decision]: Carry forward to next meeting.

→ 13 August [Recording: XX09:XX00]:  Report given. Please refer to Transcript page 6. [Decision]: Close this item. A new discussion item will be open again once the 2019 NOMCOM is active.


ITEM 017: NARALO Outreach Group Update Report

LEAD: Glenn McKnight

OPEN: 20 Nov 2017, CLOSED:

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09 July [Recording: 28:57]  Glenn RightsCon leads: Canadian National Institute of the Blind (CNIB) working on getting their application in soon. Glenn Digital inclusion leads: First Nations doing libraries throughout the Midwest. Judith RightsCon leads: couple Canadian and US non-profits, William's report pending [Decision]: Carry forward to next meeting.

→ 13 August [Recording: XX4:XX]: [Decision]:00]: New ALSs application by ALTERANTIVE was outreached during the DNS symposium in Montreal which was a CROP sponsored event attended by Glenn. William's report pending. [Decision]: Carry forward to next meeting.

ITEM 026:  NARALO ALAC Members Update Reports

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11June [Recording: 29:42] No reports given. [Decision]: Carry Forward to next meeting

→ 13 August [Recording: XX17:XX00]: Reports provided by Alan  and Javier. See transcript page 10 and 15 to see details. [Decision]: Carry Forward to next meeting

ITEM 028: NARALO Policy Group Update Report

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11June [Recording: 43:03] Mentioned that the biggest think is that Subsequent Procedures Working Group is going to be delivering its interim report shortly after Panama. Also discussions about charitable outcome associated with O.com and finally GDPR. More specifics on page 23 in the transcript. [Decision]: Carry Forward to next meeting

→ 13 August [Recording: XX22:XX00]:  [Decision]:

ITEM 029: NARALO Education Group Update Report

LEAD: Alfredo Calderon

OPEN: 09 April 2018, CLOSED:

TYPE: [Policy]

DESCRIPTION: This discussion item is for providing an update report by the head of the Educational Group.

09 april [Recording: --]  For the May meeting, Jonathan Zuck will discuss "Universal Acceptance" as part of the SWebinar series. Future topics must align with ICANN's mission, therefore, the Policy & Hot Topics must be reviewed if a SWebinar is to be organized. It seems reasonable to consider Pollicy Comments as a point of reference. We are aware that in some instances the timeframe will be a limitation when Public comments before our monthly meetings. [Decision]: Carry forward to next meeting.

14 May [Recording: 45:00 ]   Presentation given by Jonathan on Intelectual Property Constituency (IPC) / Business Constituency (BC) Accreditation & Access Model for Non-Public Data. Please see details in transcript starting on page #30. [Decision]: Carry forward to next meeting.

11June [Recording: 47:05]  No report given. [Decision]: Carry forward to next meeting.

 from the transcript page 14 : "we identify the issues, we’re trying as a group to identify what matters to end users and also what we think our position should be. But at that point, we’ll then need people to participate in drafting that section of our response. So we are interested in more people being engaged to do some writing on a particular question because there are so many questions to answer"  [Decision]:Carry Forward to next meeting



ITEM 029: NARALO Education Group Update Report

LEAD: Alfredo Calderon

OPEN: 09 April 2018, CLOSED:

TYPE: [Policy]

DESCRIPTION: This discussion item is for providing an update report by the head of the Educational Group.

09 april [Recording: --]  For the May meeting, Jonathan 9 July:  Jonathan Zuck will discuss "Universal Acceptance" as part of the SWebinar series. Basic information available here. Seeking volunteers to do SWebinars for upcomming meetings. Topics must be related to ICANN's mission and pressing issues that might entice commenting by the  RALO.

ITEM 032: NARALO.ORG 

LEAD: Glenn McKnight

OPEN: 14 May 2018, CLOSED:

TYPE: General

DESCRIPTION:  To call for volunteers to provide feedback about the NARALO.ORG  website as to navigation and content.

14 May [Recording: 5:04]   Expanded on Anna Loop's background. Discussion starts in transcript page #4. The following people volunteer to help in the group: Judith, Joy and Susannah. Some problems were discussed.  [Decision]: Carry forward to next meeting.

11June [Recording: 27:53] Glenn reported. Check transcript for more details. [Decision]: Carry forward to next meeting.

→ 13 August [Recording: XX:XX]: [Decision]:

ITEM 038: SWebinar :: Work Ahead to meet the Implementation Review

LEAD: Allan Greenberg and Cheryl Langdon-Orr

OPEN: 13 August 2018, CLOSED: 13 August 2018

TYPE: Education

DESCRIPTION: Short presentation on the "Work Ahead to meet the Implementation Review" (https://community.icann.org/display/ALRW/At-Large+Review+Implementation+Overview+Proposal) based on the 'Organizational Review of the At-Large - Final Report and Recommendations' approved by the ICANN Board (https://www.icann.org/resources/board-material/resolutions-2018-06-23-en#1.h). During the ICANN Panama Meeting some ideas where shared as to what lies ahead for RALOs.

Future topics must align with ICANN's mission, therefore, the Policy & Hot Topics must be reviewed if a SWebinar is to be organized. It seems reasonable to consider Pollicy Comments as a point of reference. We are aware that in some instances the timeframe will be a limitation when Public comments before our monthly meetings. [Decision]: Carry forward to next meeting.

14 May [Recording: 45:00 ]   Presentation given by Jonathan on Intelectual Property Constituency (IPC) / Business Constituency (BC) Accreditation & Access Model for Non-Public Data. Please see details in transcript starting on page #30. [Decision]: Carry forward to next meeting.

11June [Recording: 47:05]  No report given. [Decision]: Carry forward to next meeting.

9 July:  Jonathan Zuck will discuss "Universal Acceptance" as part of the SWebinar series. Basic information available here. Seeking volunteers to do SWebinars for upcomming meetings. Topics must be related to ICANN's mission and pressing issues that might entice commenting by the  RALO.


ITEM 032: NARALO.ORG 

LEAD: Glenn McKnight

OPEN: 14 May 2018, CLOSED:

TYPE: General

DESCRIPTION:  To call for volunteers to provide feedback about the NARALO.ORG  website as to navigation and content.

14 May [Recording: 5:04]   Expanded on Anna Loop's background. Discussion starts in transcript page #4. The following people volunteer to help in the group: Judith, Joy and Susannah. Some problems were discussed.  [Decision]: Carry forward to next meeting.

11June [Recording: 27:53] Glenn reported. Check transcript for more details. [Decision]: Carry forward to next meeting.

→ 13 August [Recording: 12:00]: Everybody has given feedback on the changes and updating of the links. Evin has worked hard on fixing the site. So if there are any other comments from any other community members, please let us know.→ 13 August [Recording: XX:XX]: [Decision]: Close item.


ITEM 039: IGF USA038: SWebinar :: Work Ahead to meet the Implementation Review

LEAD: Allan Greenberg and Cheryl Langdon-OrrLEAD: Glenn McKnight, Judith Hellerstein, Jonathan Zuck , Others

OPEN: 13 August 2018, CLOSED: 13 August 2018

TYPE: PolicyEducation

DESCRIPTION:  To share experiences and insights by NARALO members that attended this event

→ 13 August [Recording: XX:XX]: [Decision]: Close item.

6. New Discussions (→= current meeting date)

This section is for new discussions in the agenda for this meeting

7. Any Other Business (AOB)

This section is for any new discussions not in the agenda for this meeting.

ITEM 040*: [Item title here]

LEAD: [name]

OPEN: [open date], CLOSED:

TYPE: [General], [Policy], [Education], [Outreach]

DESCRIPTION: [Brief description]

*Use this format. The number shown is the next in the sequence of discussions. Update every meeting if necessary.

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Supporting Material

General:

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Short presentation on the "Work Ahead to meet the Implementation Review" (https://community.icann.org/display/ALRW/At-Large+Review+Implementation+Overview+Proposal) based on the 'Organizational Review of the At-Large - Final Report and Recommendations' approved by the ICANN Board (https://www.icann.org/resources/board-material/resolutions-2018-06-23-en#1.h). During the ICANN Panama Meeting some ideas where shared as to what lies ahead for RALOs.

→ 13 August [Recording: 35:00]: Details of the presentation can be found starting in transcript page 22. [Decision]: Close item.


ITEM 039: IGF USA

LEAD: Glenn McKnight, Judith Hellerstein, Jonathan Zuck , Others

OPEN: 13 August 2018, CLOSED: 13 August 2018

TYPE: Policy

DESCRIPTION: To share experiences and insights by NARALO members that attended this event

→ 13 August [Recording: 26:00]: Very successful event.  Reports given by Dusting Phillips, Judith, Glenn  and Johnathan Zuck. Johnathan recommended to watch the following discussion on whether or not the United States should adopt GDPR-like legislation. Link here: https://www.igf-usa.org/should-the-usa-opt-in-to-europes-privacy-regime/

 [Decision]: Close item.


6. New Discussions (→= current meeting date)

This section is for new discussions in the agenda for this meeting


7. Any Other Business (AOB)

This section is for any new discussions not in the agenda for this meeting.

ITEM 040*: [Item title here]

LEAD: [name]

OPEN: [open date], CLOSED:

TYPE: [General], [Policy], [Education], [Outreach]

DESCRIPTION: [Brief description]


*Use this format. The number shown is the next in the sequence of discussions. Update every meeting if necessary.




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Supporting Material

General:


Policy:

See:

Statements approved by the ALAC

Initial Report on the Protections for Certain Red Cross Names in all gTLDs – Policy Amendment Process 
The ALAC has always taken the position that as a humanitarian organization, and one that has been regularly the target of those seeking to fraudulently attract donations, the Red Cross should be afforded the courtesy of having its various identifiers protected at the second level in gTLD domain names.

Short-Term Options to Adjust the Timeline for Specific Reviews 
Of the three options presented on the public comment, the ALAC prefers the option to commence RT work upon Board action on CCWG-WS2 recommendations, to be started no later than end of June 2019. With this option, the review team will be in charge of the evaluation of implementation of prior review recommendations and other topics, with no duplication or overlap with CCWG-WS2 implementation. 

Long-Term Options to Adjust the Timeline of Reviews  
The ALAC approached the comment by separating it into two issues: (1) Organizational Reviews and (2) Specific Reviews. The ALAC recommended ICANN Org stop initiating Organizational Reviews until its is assessed how effective they have been and develop a methodology to allow them to be cost effective and effective overall. The ALAC also recommends changing the Bylaws to give the Board more flexibility with the timing of Specific Reviews going forward.

Open Data Initiative Datasets and Metadata 
The ALAC made specific comments in relation to: (1) Centralized, easy access to properly organized data repository, (2) Types and value of data collected, lack of discernable information; (3) Uniformity of and responsibility for data; and (4) Privacy rights. Overall, the ALAC believes it would be useful if ICANN Org could assist in re-generating a list of datasets with suggestions on what downstream or upstream information can possibly be gleaned from each dataset. 

Statements in process - DraftingComment or Vote

Drafting ICANN Seeking Community Feedback on Proposed Unified Access Model  Requested ASAP
Penholder(s): TBC

Comment IPC/BC Accreditation & Access Model for Non-Public Data v1.7 Requested ASAP Note: Not a formal ICANN public comment.
Penholder(s):  Holly Raiche, Jonathan Zuck, Alan Greenberg

Drafting Initial Report on the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Policy Development Process (Overarching Issues & Work Tracks 1-4)  
Penholder(s):  Jonathan Zuck

Drafting Recommendations for Managing IDN Variant Top-Level Domains  
Penholder(s): Satish Babu

Drafting Draft ICANN Africa Strategic Plan 2016-2020 Version 3.0  
Penholder(s): TBC

Statements that seem to be stalled

    • None

Public Comment requests to which the ALAC decided not to submit Statements

New Public Comment requests to which the ALAC needs to make decisions

Upcoming Public Comment Requests

August

  • Initial Report on the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Policy Development Process (Work Track 5 – Geographic Names at the Top-Level)
  • Competition, Consumer Trust & Consumer Choice Review Team – Final Report
  • Proposals for Bengali, Malayalam, and Tamil Scripts Root Zone Label Generation Rules (LGR)
  • Security and Stability Advisory Committee (SSAC) 2 Review: Draft Report and Recommendations
  • Proposal for Sinhala Script Root Zone Label Generation Rules (LGR)

September

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Policy:

See:

Statements approved by the ALAC

Initial Report on the Protections for Certain Red Cross Names in all gTLDs – Policy Amendment Process 
The ALAC has always taken the position that as a humanitarian organization, and one that has been regularly the target of those seeking to fraudulently attract donations, the Red Cross should be afforded the courtesy of having its various identifiers protected at the second level in gTLD domain names.

Short-Term Options to Adjust the Timeline for Specific Reviews 
Of the three options presented on the public comment, the ALAC prefers the option to commence RT work upon Board action on CCWG-WS2 recommendations, to be started no later than end of June 2019. With this option, the review team will be in charge of the evaluation of implementation of prior review recommendations and other topics, with no duplication or overlap with CCWG-WS2 implementation. 

Long-Term Options to Adjust the Timeline of Reviews  
The ALAC approached the comment by separating it into two issues: (1) Organizational Reviews and (2) Specific Reviews. The ALAC recommended ICANN Org stop initiating Organizational Reviews until its is assessed how effective they have been and develop a methodology to allow them to be cost effective and effective overall. The ALAC also recommends changing the Bylaws to give the Board more flexibility with the timing of Specific Reviews going forward.

Open Data Initiative Datasets and Metadata 
The ALAC made specific comments in relation to: (1) Centralized, easy access to properly organized data repository, (2) Types and value of data collected, lack of discernable information; (3) Uniformity of and responsibility for data; and (4) Privacy rights. Overall, the ALAC believes it would be useful if ICANN Org could assist in re-generating a list of datasets with suggestions on what downstream or upstream information can possibly be gleaned from each dataset. 

Statements in process - DraftingComment or Vote

Drafting   ICANN Seeking Community Feedback on Proposed Unified Access Model  Requested ASAP
Penholder(s): TBC

Comment   IPC/BC Accreditation & Access Model for Non-Public Data v1.7 Requested ASAP Note: Not a formal ICANN public comment.
Penholder(s):  Holly Raiche, Jonathan Zuck, Alan Greenberg

Drafting   Initial Report on the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Policy Development Process (Overarching Issues & Work Tracks 1-4)  
Penholder(s):  Jonathan Zuck

Drafting Recommendations for Managing IDN Variant Top-Level Domains  
Penholder(s): TBC

Drafting Draft ICANN Africa Strategic Plan 2016-2020 Version 3.0  
Penholder(s): TBC

Statements that seem to be stalled

    • None 

Public Comment requests to which the ALAC decided not to submit Statements

New Public Comment requests to which the ALAC needs to make decisions

Upcoming Public Comment Requests

August

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  • Registration Directory Service Review Team (RDS-WHOIS2) Draft Report
  • Implementation of Privacy and Proxy Services Accreditation Program
  • Recommendations on the Technical Use of the Root Zone Label Generation Rules (LGR)
  • Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy (IRTP) Policy Status Report

Education:

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