16:01:24 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
Starting shortly
16:04:09 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Lilian I can translate for you if you need
16:04:22 From Lilian Ivette to Everyone:
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thanks silvia
16:04:23 From Pari Esfandiari to Everyone:
Thank you Cheryl
16:04:48 From Bukola Oronti to Everyone:
Welcome @Pari Esfandiari
16:05:15 From Pari Esfandiari to Everyone:
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Thank you
16:05:47 From Claire Craig to Everyone:
Welcome Pari
16:06:06 From Lilian Ivette to Everyone:
welome pari to the team
16:08:57 From Pari Esfandiari to Everyone:
Thank you all.
16:10:20 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
Jumping in the deep end Pari
16:11:10 From Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org to Everyone:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VM2OxN8zZEMtz6dDUj7fF9a_T7vToP8WVH3g6uOkjDM/edit#heading=h.2h9ufhm2h1ao
16:18:03 From Bill Jouris to Everyone:
More words in the hopes of greater precision?
16:18:10 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Deberain de haber mas palabras en definir los principios
16:18:41 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Solamente decir que son eficientes y eficaces podría limitar los conceptos en otras lenguas?
16:19:29 From Bill Jouris to Everyone:
+1 Lilian. Enough to be clear, but no more
16:20:16 From Lilian Ivette to Everyone:
Reacted to "+1 Lilian. Enough t..." with
16:22:28 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Otros AC/SO no tienen las mismas estructuras
16:22:48 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
De rendition por eso ese “(donde sea aplicable = where applicable”
16:23:11 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Por que estas organizaciones rinden cuentas
16:23:11 From Lilian Ivette to Everyone:
you're wright
16:23:43 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Mucho mas complicado en el GNSO donde paras la rendición de cuentas ahi= mas complicado
16:23:47 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Es mas jerarquico
16:23:53 From Lilian Ivette to Everyone:
yes alac is more simply
16:24:01 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Mientras NOMCOM y SSAC son planos- lineales
16:24:30 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Ok my summary in ES above
16:24:45 From Bukola Oronti to Everyone:
Where applicable is enough wording, especially for communities that do not have such structures in place (either internal or external) but for ALAC just as Cheryl said ours is more internal rather than external
16:25:07 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Pari le palace “where applicable” muy confusa
16:25:23 From Lilian Ivette to Everyone:
the alac structure is less hierarchical
16:25:25 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
All my notes in ES are for Lilian’s benefit- just summarizing
16:25:43 From Lilian Ivette to Everyone:
thanks silvia
16:25:59 From Lilian Ivette to Everyone:
i agree with Pari
16:26:09 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Los principos serán LOS MISMOs
16:26:19 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Sea donde dice ALAC- gira también SSAC
16:26:22 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
etc
16:26:24 From Lilian Ivette to Everyone:
where aplicable is a Little confuse
16:26:51 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
Bill don't forget the importance of the criteria under each principle as well as any subsidiarity
16:27:10 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
What about if you put - “where applicable depending on the structure “
16:27:44 From Bukola Oronti to Everyone:
The principles are the same for all the communities within ICANN.
16:28:16 From Lilian Ivette to Everyone:
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yes
16:28:47 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
But “accountability” varies as per Cheryl’s explanation
16:29:18 From Bill Jouris to Everyone:
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But the wording of the principles, if broad enough to work for all the stakeholders' differing sructures, they may be too vague to mean anything.
16:30:04 From Lilian Ivette to Everyone:
Silvia que se refiere cheryl
16:30:27 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
ALSes and UIMs
16:30:40 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
that is what At-Large actually is
16:30:47 From Lilian Ivette to Everyone:
Reacted to "that is what At-Larg..." with
16:31:24 From Bukola Oronti to Everyone:
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The reason why the request for rewording of principle for as requested by other stakeholders to make it more applicable to them
16:31:36 From Bukola Oronti to Everyone:
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Principle 4
16:32:11 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
the Advisory Committee *ALAC* is a model to best (effectively and efficiently ) reflect the best interests of At-Large and wider end user communityies
16:32:15 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
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Elo dice que los varios AC/SO tienen diferentes tipos o niveles de rendición de cuentas= dependiendo de sus propias estructuras
16:32:45 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
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Poniendo de ejemplo el CCNSO cuyos miembros son distintos que digamos los miembros de At-Large
16:33:08 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
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Por eso “accountability” es un concepto que no se aplica idénticamente
16:33:13 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
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Pero es común a todos
16:33:18 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
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En sus varios matices
16:33:31 From Lilian Ivette to Everyone:
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exactly claire supplemented that point
16:36:24 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Las palabra “At-Large” tiene en si mismo- el Comité (primero fue interino) y luego hubo una llamada para entidades (organizaciones) y eso es lo que se llamo At-Large structure/ Luego cuando llegaron a 30, tuvimos una organización balanceada en 5 Regiones:
16:36:50 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Luego hubo una campana de Outreach y Engagement financiada por ICANN que dio resultados de mas entidades
16:36:57 From Lilian Ivette to Everyone:
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ok es bueno saber de donde viene
16:37:17 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Asi se crearon las organizaciones Regiones
16:37:29 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Que son una
Capa media” o middle layer
16:37:42 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Para levan info a ICANN y visceverdsa
16:38:19 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Las organizaciones tienes 1) Estatutos para estar involucrados en politicas
16:38:46 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Eso es el background= asipuedes identificar de donde sale la rendición de cuentas
16:39:30 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Tu objectivo - operar en “el mejor interes de….los usuarios”
16:40:54 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Note that the RALOs MOUs illustrate accountability to ICANN org as well
16:41:10 From Lilian Ivette to Everyone:
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el mou es entre ralos y icann
16:41:51 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
ICANN by laws: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/governance/bylaws-en
16:42:00 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
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@Lilian Ivette asi es
16:42:58 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
El texto en colores es para aclarar pero el texto en letra negra es lenguaje del By-Laws
16:44:57 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Lo que se ve en el google doc= la propuesta de agregar bottom up y MSM deberemos argumentat para incluir
16:49:00 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
ALAC podría ser y debería ser un ejemplo excelente de bottom up en acción en e MSM
16:51:02 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Si hay alguien que no pudo hacer la tarea?
16:51:53 From Lilian Ivette to Everyone:
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como asi?
16:53:54 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
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@Lilian Ivette eso pregunto Cheryl si hay alguien que tenia dudas/o que calvez no pudo poner comentarios en el doc
16:54:13 From Lilian Ivette to Everyone:
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yes into lacralo
16:54:17 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
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Claire puso bajo criteria2 pero no esta segura
16:54:34 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
Lillian I will ask your feedback to Claire
16:58:05 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
COPY of ALAC ROPs so we can hyperlink it
16:58:30 From Lilian Ivette to Everyone:
in the principle 2 we are already in the Smart indicators
16:59:50 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
We need a document structured so we can have a link pointing out to the actual subsection
17:00:07 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Claire will add numbers to the criteria
17:01:47 From Lilian Ivette to Everyone:
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in the measurable part
17:03:20 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
All to think of how to “anchor” the criteria with specifics (rules and practices) or standard operating procedure, we will capture unofficial processes into an Annex
17:03:51 From Bukola Oronti to Everyone:
yes
17:04:17 From Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org to Everyone:
AI for all : All to think of how to “anchor” the criteria with specifics (rules and practices) or standard operating procedure, we will capture unofficial processes into an Annex
17:08:25 From Pari Esfandiari to Everyone:
Thank you all.
17:08:33 From Bukola Oronti to Everyone:
Bye all
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