Zoom chat: 2024-04-04 Operations, Finance and Budget Working Group (OFB-WG) Call

12:45:50 From CART Captioner Kara Valor - SignNexus to Everyone:
    TY!
12:47:53 From Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org to Everyone:
    Replying to "TY!"
    
    You’re welcome! Thanks for your help today ;)
12:47:58 From CART Captioner Kara Valor - SignNexus to Everyone:
    Do you have a roll of attendees/members that you script from?
12:54:35 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    https://community.icann.org/x/OoDWEQ
12:55:14 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VM2OxN8zZEMtz6dDUj7fF9a_T7vToP8WVH3g6uOkjDM/edit?usp=sharing
12:56:29 From Amrita Choudhury to Everyone:
    lol Cheryl
12:56:41 From Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org to Everyone:
    Welcome everyone
12:57:32 From Amrita Choudhury to Everyone:
    Hi All and Claire
12:58:27 From Jonathan Zuck to Everyone:
    I LOVE the snow!
12:59:16 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    Replying to "I LOVE the snow!"
    
    BRRRR
12:59:56 From Amrita Choudhury to Everyone:
    Courtesy climate change and global warming
13:00:16 From Seb Bachollet to Everyone:
    I am in a meeting and in restaurant
13:00:20 From gisella.gruber to Everyone:
    Wishing all a warm welcome to the OFB WG on Thursday 4 April at 18:00 UTC.
13:00:41 From gisella.gruber to Everyone:
    Please note both Heidi and Silvia are out this week so Michelle and I will be your staff support on this call
13:01:01 From gisella.gruber to Everyone:
    Action Items - if they could be clearly stated, that would be very much appreciated :-)
13:01:14 From Seb Bachollet to Everyone:
    Difficult to have a full follow-up
13:01:36 From Lilian Ivette to Everyone:
    Hi everyone!
13:01:46 From Jonathan Zuck to Everyone:
    Replying to "I am in a meeting an..."
    
    What kind of restaurant? what are you eating? I'm starving!
13:02:11 From Shah Rahman to Everyone:
    Hi everyone warm welcome, 
    
    Bangladesh Meteorological Department today (3 April) issued heat alerts for four divisions of the country for the next 72 hours with temperatures surging over 40°C.
13:02:51 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    weather and elements are of great concern all over the globe it seems... Stay safe people!
13:02:58 From Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC) to Everyone:
    Wow Alan that is a lot of snow for April
13:02:59 From Amrita Choudhury to Everyone:
    Reacted to "weather and elements..." with 
13:03:07 From Lilian Ivette to Everyone:
    Replying to "Hi everyone warm wel..."
    
    40°C is my usual temperature
13:03:13 From Shah Rahman to Everyone:
    Reacted to weather and elements... with "
13:03:23 From Marita Moll to Everyone:
    Sorry for my many absences. Have been sidelined by serial eye operations these last few months.
13:03:43 From Amrita Choudhury to Everyone:
    Replying to "Sorry for my many ab..."
    
    Hope all is well now Marita
13:03:47 From Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC) to Everyone:
    My early childhood was surrounded with a lot of snow!
13:04:00 From Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org to Everyone:
    To follow along with the Real time transcription:  https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN
13:04:26 From Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC) to Everyone:
    Welcome Amrita
13:04:52 From Judith Hellerstein to Everyone:
    Welcome Marita and hope you are doing better
13:05:04 From Amrita Choudhury to Everyone:
    Replying to "Welcome Amrita"
    
    I guess you meant Marita :)
13:05:59 From Marita Moll to Everyone:
    Sorry, acting weirdly. Can't seem to control it
13:06:10 From Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC) to Everyone:
    Looks good thanks Clair
13:06:12 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    Replying to "Sorry, acting weirdl..."
    
    gremlins
13:06:37 From avri doria to Everyone:
    apologies for my tardiness.
13:07:19 From Marita Moll to Everyone:
    Yes, gremlins have been congregating due to lack of use
13:08:10 From gisella.gruber to Everyone:
    Just checking on the vote on Trip’s letter
13:13:03 From ALAC-Bill Jouris to Everyone:
    Replying to "Yes, gremlins have b..."
    
    Perhaps as well to get them all over with at once.
13:15:56 From ALAC-Amrita Choudhury to Everyone:
    Agree many of us have presented it to our groups
13:22:31 From avri doria to Everyone:
    where is the URL
13:23:05 From Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org to Everyone:
    To follow along with the Real time transcription:  https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN
13:23:54 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    The cadence question SeB is raising  is scheduled for May Meeting  BUT  the PPT does make the base assumptions already presented
13:24:48 From avri doria to Everyone:
    found the CIP url thank.s
13:25:18 From ALAC-Jonathan Zuck to Everyone:
    We have a LOT of navel gazing in our future
13:25:34 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    That is what SeB is trying to bring to front of mind(s)  but time itself will beat us on all this
13:25:41 From Alan Greenberg to Everyone:
    @Claire, some of the "little Pieces" are not so little...
13:25:53 From avri doria to Everyone:
    Replying to "We have a LOT of nav..."
    
    lint squad to the rescue?
13:25:56 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    Replying to "We have a LOT of nav..."
    
    Hopefully more productive than many such efforts
13:26:15 From ALAC-Shah Rahman to Everyone:
    It's good read
13:28:20 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    Replying to "We have a LOT of nav..."
    
    AI  on our (Tommie and I part  with the ALAC CIP process- is for ALAC to identify a few people for us to workshop these things with +1 staff at least please... That way it is a mini workshopped effort reflecting proper ALAC input    _ Be SMART if RALO Reps  do the same as well in there jurisdiction
13:29:38 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    FYI I already lodged a personal response to this survey; and my ALS is (under another Directors pen, putting in another for the entity)
13:29:57 From ALAC-Amrita Choudhury to Everyone:
    Replying to "FYI I already lodged..."
    
    Thanks Cheryl
13:31:22 From Seb Bachollet to Everyone:
    That multistakeholder????
13:31:35 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    I'm not neutral on any of these FYI
13:31:43 From Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC) to Everyone:
    Okay fair
13:31:50 From avri doria to Everyone:
    I have been working on one of these questionnaires myself, and find neutral is often the best answer.  I agree on this one.
13:32:08 From Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC) to Everyone:
    @ALAC-Amrita Choudhury fair I don’t have a strong opinion there
13:32:09 From ALAC-Pari Esfandiari to Everyone:
    agree
13:32:10 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    Replying to "I have been working ..."
    
    interesting  @Avri
13:33:04 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    Replying to "I have been working ..."
    
    I was mostly in the Agree  or strongly camp on most
13:33:04 From avri doria to Everyone:
    most of the question ignore nuance of one sort or another.  in any question with nuance, the best I can come to personally in neutral.
13:33:20 From Muriel ALAPINI to Everyone:
    Reacted to "most of the question..." with 
13:33:24 From ALAC-Amrita Choudhury to Everyone:
    +1 Pari
13:33:44 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    Replying to "most of the question..."
    
    Ohh the question design is very questionable  IMO   especially the ranking tool one  ERGH
13:35:15 From ALAC-Bill Jouris to Everyone:
    Reacted to "most of the question..." with 
13:35:16 From avri doria to Everyone:
    Replying to "most of the question..."
    
    the ranking, I cannot say enough about.
13:36:39 From Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC) to Everyone:
    Okay
13:36:55 From Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC) to Everyone:
    Will add to the document
13:37:17 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    Replying to "most of the question..."
    
    effective survey design is an artform IMO  not sure I'm looking at the work of a master here (even a solid hobbyist) more a color by numbers effort ;-)
13:37:21 From Seb Bachollet to Everyone:
    Remember at the end it needs to be a multistakeholder agree document
13:37:45 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    Replying to "Remember at the end ..."
    
    I don't see how that happens from this process SeB
13:37:48 From ALAC-Shah Rahman to Everyone:
    Replying to "Remember at the end ..." 
    
     Indeed
13:39:06 From Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC) to Everyone:
    @ALAC-Amrita Choudhury noted
13:42:20 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    I certainly Agree it should be an ability for all stakeholders to contribute
13:42:42 From Judith Hellerstein to Everyone:
    +1 Alan
13:43:38 From Judith Hellerstein to Everyone:
    +1 CLO
13:44:00 From ALAC-Shah Rahman to Everyone:
    Replying to "+1 CLO" 
    
     A bit challenging bu...
13:44:59 From Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC) to Everyone:
    Adding to the principles how to ensure meaningful representation and participation of diverse stakeholders could contribute to the answer of this question
13:44:59 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    So I'm for using this opportunity for input as a tool to effect outcomes over being deeply considered and brutely honest ;-)
13:45:36 From ALAC-Pari Esfandiari to Everyone:
    Reacted to "So I'm for using thi..." with 
13:46:14 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    REALLY DISLIKE a ranking system that is trying to deal with more than ranking 3 or perhaps 5  and there is NO indication of if there is a weight associated with this ranking nonsence
13:47:17 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    If you poll I suggest you just poll for the top 3 or 5
13:47:36 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    force a clear set of highest preferences
13:47:50 From ALAC-Amrita Choudhury to Everyone:
    Yes
13:47:59 From Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC) to Everyone:
    Reacted to "REALLY DISLIKE a ran..." with 
13:48:54 From Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC) to Everyone:
    +1 Alan it should be a given
13:49:56 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    Also not sure what this data can even be used for other than a few pretty graphs of input,  BUT what outcome can be wrought from it  Goodness knows!!!
13:49:58 From avri doria to Everyone:
    and by implication say the other are less important
13:50:06 From ALAC-Amrita Choudhury to Everyone:
    Agree
13:51:16 From Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC) to Everyone:
    We need to agree on our top most priorities
13:51:23 From ALAC-Shah Rahman to Everyone:
    Yes that's help , top most
13:51:25 From Judith Hellerstein to Everyone:
    Reacted to "REALLY DISLIKE a ran…" with 
13:53:07 From avri doria to Everyone:
    support igf text
13:54:13 From Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC) to Everyone:
    @ALAC-Amrita Choudhury thank you for working on this, let’s all work on it
13:54:34 From ALAC-Amrita Choudhury to Everyone:
    Current is 7th
13:54:38 From ALAC-Amrita Choudhury to Everyone:
    yes
13:54:54 From Seb Bachollet to Everyone:
    7th yes
13:56:37 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    as long as it has the entity noted in the are you presenting this on behalf of question
13:56:40 From ALAC-Amrita Choudhury to Everyone:
    Jonthan can send it as Chair
13:56:47 From ALAC-Amrita Choudhury to Everyone:
    Reacted to "as long as it has th..." with 
13:56:47 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    Reacted to "Jonthan can send it ..." with 
13:57:56 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    the draft is then the discuss resource
13:57:57 From avri doria to Everyone:
    i have also requested remote status
13:58:23 From ALAC-Jonathan Zuck to Everyone:
    will do
13:58:31 From ALAC-Shah Rahman to Everyone:
    Reacted to will do with "
13:58:34 From ALAC-Jonathan Zuck to Everyone:
    thanks for your efforts Amrita
13:58:42 From ALAC-Amrita Choudhury to Everyone:
    Apologies for taking more time than allotted
13:58:49 From ALAC-Amrita Choudhury to Everyone:
    Reacted to "thanks for your effo..." with 
13:58:53 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    Reacted to "thanks for your effo..." with
13:58:58 From ALAC-Amrita Choudhury to Everyone:
    Thanks Cheryl
13:59:16 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    Replying to "Thanks Cheryl"
    
    time critical work  @ALAC-Amrita Choudhury
13:59:26 From Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC) to Everyone:
    Thank you all
13:59:29 From ALAC-Shah Rahman to Everyone:
    Thank you all
13:59:29 From Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC) to Everyone:
    Bye fo rnow
13:59:33 From ALAC-Amrita Choudhury to Everyone:
    Thanks and bye
13:59:35 From Muriel ALAPINI to Everyone:
    By all
13:59:37 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    Bye for now  I don't look forward to 1400 UTC
13:59:38 From Faheem Soomro to Everyone:
    Thank You everyone for informative session