00:19:03 Lavish Mawuena Mensah: Happy New Year and Good evening from Tamale, Ghana... Great to be here...
00:19:32 Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: Action Items: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Action+Items+At-Large+Capacity+Building+WG+Team+Call
00:20:24 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: I had already done my list review for last call ;-)
00:20:51 Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: I will mark that AI as complete.
00:22:01 Hadia El Miniawi: Happy Holidays
00:30:24 Hadia El Miniawi: I am not sure that both topics are necessary associated
00:30:29 Sarah Kiden: Agree, Cheryl
00:30:55 Jonathan Zuck: Yes. We should get on that analysis soon, though
00:31:07 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: yes we can just give a nod to the other work in any cover note
00:31:25 Sarah Kiden: That’s noted. We can send this, then start working on the review
00:31:46 Hadia El Miniawi: +1 Jonathan agree
00:31:47 Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: Endorsement by the ALAC might be useful before sending to the ICANN Learn team.
00:31:48 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Exactly @JZ and it is a good point that Sarah makes
00:32:07 Maureen Hilyard ALAC: Apologies for lateness
00:32:09 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Fair point @Heidi
00:33:06 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: to ALAC for acceptance/note before going to iCANN Learn
00:33:32 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Heidi can control the right flow I thonk
00:33:36 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: think
00:33:56 Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: Yes I have noted the AI
00:34:40 Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wE196fuxkIXc3hBnM0QK26X6QRDsY8e-mdMK7UqZ2IY/edit#gid=0
00:35:22 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: scroll down to the CB Webinars please Michelle
00:36:33 Lavish Mawuena Mensah: @Michelle, can you kindly me grant access to the sheet?
00:37:01 Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: +1 Jonathan, we need to note the criteria and also the amount of resources that are required to develop an ICANN Learn course.
00:37:26 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: more than 1 way to skin this cat though Heidi
00:37:28 Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: Welcome, Maureen.
00:37:36 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: as I will note in a moment
00:37:46 Hadia El Miniawi: Jonathan O lost you
00:37:48 Hadia El Miniawi: I
00:37:52 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: I have lost audio
00:37:55 Hadia El Miniawi: Ok you are back
00:37:59 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: yes back
00:45:55 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: BTW some of the Quizzes in the Webinars are total RUBISH in my Vefy Boased view ;-)
00:45:59 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Biased
00:47:25 Mohammed Awal Alhassan: I'm requesting access to the document, please
00:48:28 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Just as we should curate a learning experience with existing ICANN Learn Courses we could also Curate Recommended Review for At-Large webinar selection(s)
00:48:50 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Course creating IS a resource heavy requirement
00:50:25 Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: We might need to first determine the skill gaps and then try to fill them
00:50:28 Lavish Mawuena Mensah: Both have their roles... and I think they are complementary...
00:50:37 Maureen Hilyard ALAC: I think we could deconstruct some of our webinars and reconstruct the information in another format, like a short course or other type of activity that reinforces the key ideas.
00:50:50 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Indeed @Lavish
00:51:24 Jonathan Zuck: The answer might be to create a new webinar
00:52:15 Maureen Hilyard ALAC: But webinars are just one way directional, it doesn't get the learner actually doing something to show they are understanding what you are wanting them to know.
00:52:43 Maureen Hilyard ALAC: which is what capacity building is supposed to be about.
00:52:49 Jonathan Zuck: Many of our webinars are pretty ad hoc. We might want to create a real.webinar.
00:53:59 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Hell YES @JZ!!!
00:54:10 Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: Agree, JZ.
00:54:22 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Secind editions of existing materials
00:54:23 Lavish Mawuena Mensah:
00:54:37 Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: And I would also like to have a new and improved approach to organizing all the past webinars, CB activities
00:54:37 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: or 3rd Ed etc., all damn good from my POV
00:54:57 Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: To make them more accessible to those who might benefit
00:55:16 Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: Perhaps organize them by skills/topics
00:55:21 Lavish Mawuena Mensah: What JZ is talking about is exactly how these learning platforms do, eg. Coursera and the likes... Scripts with someone rehearsing it
00:55:23 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Agreed Heidi, nothing gets pensioned off /deleted/lost but the use and utility is refined and curated!
00:55:26 Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: Rather than the current chronological order...
00:55:40 Sarah Kiden: :-)
00:55:47 Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: JZ, you are now a member of the CBWG!
00:56:06 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: yup
00:56:42 Maureen Hilyard ALAC: I think the next topic might be a continuation of the way we present our content material
00:56:44 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Do you want me to start a second sheet with possibe curation outlines
00:56:52 Maureen Hilyard ALAC: yes
00:57:46 Maureen Hilyard ALAC: I like this
00:58:05 Sarah Kiden: Kindly grant view rights to the document
00:58:11 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: OK can you make that an AI for Maureen, Sarah, Hadia and I to take a 1st run at please Heidi
00:58:22 Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: Will do
00:58:29 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: scroll down please Michelle
00:59:24 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Thx
01:06:55 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: I'll drop the link I the ABR to the 3rd party entity I am refering to
01:07:06 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Heidi/Maureen it is one we reviewed
01:07:11 Hadia El Miniawi: Thanks Cheryl
01:07:18 Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: AI: Jonathan Zuck and Cheryl Langdon-Orr to add the external source of templates to the End User Playbook ABR proposal.
01:07:56 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: ABR's have time binding and reporting needs to comply with and yes it can be listed as Pilot maybe APRALO can pilot it ;-)
01:08:03 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: ausio
01:08:10 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: audio JZ
01:12:29 Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: Maureen, are you now speaking about your ABR proposal?
01:12:38 Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: We have that ready to display
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01:13:32 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: com
01:13:48 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: sorry https://www.smartinsights.com/
01:15:08 Jonathan Zuck: read it!
01:16:07 Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: I am seeing all the linkages! How do we incorporate these three concepts into a/some ABR proposals?
01:18:28 Jonathan Zuck: Definitely a relationship
01:19:30 Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: Maureen and Cheryl, we are having an FBSC call next week. It might be useful for you to join to discuss these proposals
01:19:30 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KqiGrduyZ2VVziu4lEUhRAl9z_PZ0L7p/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=113012594221325855234&rtpof=true&sd=true
01:19:52 Hadia El Miniawi: Thank you for the link
01:21:56 Maureen Hilyard ALAC: Perfect!
01:23:18 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Lots covered though Hadia so time well spent IMO
01:23:49 Sarah Kiden: Yes indeed
01:24:16 Hadia El Miniawi: @Cheryl indeed - time very well spent
01:25:23 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: we now need to engage those same people with these sort s of actions agreed @JZ
01:26:40 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: ALAC ABR piloted in RALO(s) noting APRALO as already willing to be engaged
01:27:38 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: But I believe this WG has supported both ABRss presented
01:28:28 Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: @Maureen, you might wish to note the FY24 APRALO GA
01:28:36 Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: As a reason why the pilots are there
01:28:37 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: never do any 1 thing for only 1 reason :-)
01:29:01 Maureen Hilyard ALAC: +1 Cheryl
01:29:06 Sarah Kiden: Support from me too. The proposals are great. I hope they are approved
01:29:14 Jonathan Zuck: Maureen is is more Interventionist so politics more likely
01:29:20 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: We can but try @Sarah
01:29:32 Lavish Mawuena Mensah: They are both... great documents...
01:29:49 Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: APRALO is planning on several UA Day activities
01:30:04 Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: So perhaps best practice here which can be discussed on a call with Satish, etc
01:30:18 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Indeed @JZ
01:30:44 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: makes sense @Hadia
01:31:17 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: totally agree @JZ!!!
01:31:26 Hadia El Miniawi: Makes sense to me
01:31:37 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: we need more standardisation of activities. tools and materials
01:31:43 Lilian Deluque: lacralo too is planning UA day activities
01:32:36 Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: +1 Cheryl - need to be in sync
01:32:48 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: UASG will also be preparing materials I assume
01:33:33 Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: Yes, and Satish is the ALAC liaison to the UASG
01:33:38 Jonathan Zuck: And the experiment does not need to be ALL that we do!
01:33:46 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: we can spend time on that next week I agree @Hadia
01:33:56 Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: Or perhaps design the webinars first before holding the next
01:34:13 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: all good for next week In my view
01:34:35 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: agree @Heidi
01:34:37 Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: Would a 90 min call make sense?
01:34:51 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: may as well do 90
01:35:15 Sarah Kiden: Thank you
01:35:18 Lavish Mawuena Mensah: Thank you... Great meeting...
01:35:19 Hadia El Miniawi: bye
01:35:20 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Satish might need to be early in agenda
01:35:21 Lilian Deluque: bye
01:35:27 Lavish Mawuena Mensah: Bye...
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