11:45:12 From Vrikson Acosta : Hello Michelle. I'm waiting for the meeting to begin
11:54:05 From Priyatosh Jana : hi everyone
11:55:45 From Ines Hfaiedh : Hi Priyatosh Hi everyone !
11:59:04 From Joanna Kulesza : Welcome Cheryl and Daniel!
11:59:15 From Michelle DeSmyter : We will have RTT today if you would like to follow along: https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN [streamtext.net] [streamtext.net]
12:00:39 From Heidi Ullrich : Welcome, All.
12:01:01 From Heidi Ullrich : Action Items will be posted at: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Action+items%3A+2020-02-11+At-Large+Capacity+Building+Working+Group+Call
12:01:22 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Thank you Heidi
12:01:29 From Gunela Astbrink : Hi everyone
12:01:44 From Michel TCHONANG : Hi everyone
12:02:16 From Alfredo Calderon : Welcome to all.
12:02:57 From Michelle DeSmyter : To follow along with RTT: https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN [streamtext.net] [streamtext.net]
12:03:19 From Hadia Elminiawi : Hello Joanna , Alferdo and all
12:04:46 From Heidi Ullrich : They are at: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Action+items%3A+2020-01-13+At-Large+Capacity+Building+Working+Group+Call
12:09:37 From Roberto : Hi all - sorry for being late
12:10:15 From Joanna Kulesza : https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Meetings+-+Tuesday%2C+25+June+2019
12:10:20 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : perhaps use the system of <question> insert text of ?? <Question> to assist in collection and collation of any questions for Betsy
12:13:16 From Nadira Al Araj : +1 Cheryl
12:13:26 From Joanna Kulesza : Let us do that, thank you Cheryl!
12:14:23 From Alfredo Calderon : @All. Please use the format <Question> text <Question>
12:16:57 From Alfredo Calderon : <Question> What feedback have you received in terms of bandwidth needed to view / interact with content/<Question>
12:17:17 From Alfredo Calderon : Enrollment Key HOWTO2020
12:19:46 From Glenn McKnight FBSC : I am dual tasking on the PIR ISOC Sale call too.
12:20:45 From Joanna Kulesza : Thanks for joining @Glenn
12:21:01 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Audio interference
12:21:01 From Alfredo Calderon : @All, please mute microphone.
12:22:15 From Maureen Hilyard (ALAC) : Hi Betsy.. I know how busy you are.. many thanks
12:22:41 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : <COMMENT> excellent Betsy, we look forward to that feedback re accessability
12:24:09 From Alfredo Calderon : <Question> Could we think of Surface Learning for Newcomers, and then deep learning to work with individuals getting involved?<Question>
12:24:14 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : cont... Yes trade offs are an essential to consider <End COmment>
12:25:11 From Nadira Al Araj : <Question> Have you tried moderated online courses?
12:26:11 From Joanna Kulesza : +1 on translations
12:26:11 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : @Alfredo that in my experience is it also depends on the learner, so options are often useful stage 1 => 2 etc., often helps in either 'target group'
12:26:17 From Glenn McKnight FBSC : Just finished a course by IEEE on SDGs and a GSMA and they used both a moderated forum and once a week live chat to augment their course.
12:27:16 From Alfredo Calderon : @Glenn, if tat is the case the weekly moderation or when ever the course is ope.n, a volunteer must be available
12:27:31 From Michelle DeSmyter : To follow along with RTT: https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN [streamtext.net] [streamtext.net]
12:27:36 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Humans always to better in Sub 45 min sessions or blocks even if end to end a change needs to happen to improve average measurable retentions ...
12:28:10 From Glenn McKnight FBSC : No, the course is set for once a week and each week has specific questions on the modules. It has three modules and an assignment
12:28:41 From Glenn McKnight FBSC : The Live chat is very important to share ideas and specific specific questions to the course faciliator
12:29:26 From Heidi Ullrich : Summary of presentation:
12:29:27 From Heidi Ullrich : ICANN Learn Summary of Steps to Produce an ICANN Learn course:

What is it that I want to learn? Narrow the goals of the aim of the course. What are the learning outcomes? Consider different approaches to learning (surface vs deep learning).
Content - do not use infographics,
Additional items and final production - Send content to Betsy. She will work with her team and you.
Timeline for production - Depends on materials needed, tech support availability, other courses in the timeline.

Length of average course - 20 -40 mins. Consider breaking the courses into multiple modules.

Courses should be evergreen (at least one year before it needs updating).

Consider posting it in EN and then revise in EN before translating the course in other languages.
12:29:40 From Heidi Ullrich : Posted at: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Action+items%3A+2020-02-11+At-Large+Capacity+Building+Working+Group+Call
12:30:33 From Hadia Elminiawi : @Glenn I also attended several courses with Diplo and they do the same - The have several modules with an assignment on each - a moderated forum and a chat room every week
12:30:53 From Glenn McKnight FBSC : @Hadia its a better process
12:31:14 From Glenn McKnight FBSC : @Hadia i did the Diplo ones too
12:31:19 From Hadia Elminiawi : @Glen it is an excellent process but needs more time and commitment
12:31:42 From Glenn McKnight FBSC : 800 people enrolled in the Telco course that i did
12:32:37 From Maureen Hilyard (ALAC) : @Hadia @ Glenn I also enjoyed the Diplo programs but they have staff who are dedicated to do the moderation and respond to the chat queries.
12:32:56 From Hadia Elminiawi : @Maureen very true
12:33:01 From Glenn McKnight FBSC : ISOC is creating courses using the same model
12:33:42 From Glenn McKnight FBSC : IEEE SPectrum courses use WEBEX and they have accredited courses too. Some free but many are fee
12:33:56 From Nadira Al Araj : @Maureen, Maybe can have volunteers moderating AT-large courses.
12:34:23 From Maureen Hilyard (ALAC) : Yes this is what we would have to do.. and I think we could find people to do it, fortunately
12:34:46 From Glenn McKnight FBSC : To use an American expression. " People need skin in the game" and they need to get a tangible return on taking the course
12:34:52 From Dev Anand Teelucksingh : It would be easier to have zoom recordings on platforms like YouTube, Vimeo
12:35:02 From Dev Anand Teelucksingh : So its easier to view on mobile devices
12:35:34 From Glenn McKnight FBSC : I have been only listening to video streams lately in the background. like the ISOC PIR discussion right now. It doesn't require watching
12:35:43 From Dev Anand Teelucksingh : A challenge is that its very hard to follow calls on mobile and trying to find recordings
12:35:59 From Dev Anand Teelucksingh : a YouTube channel / playlist would be easier to browse
12:36:03 From Nadira Al Araj : Yes, Maureen, it is worth trying to see if we can have volunteers to moderte
12:36:19 From Glenn McKnight FBSC : Dev you make an important point on Mobile participation , what about slow bandwidth issues
12:37:35 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Of course there are a set off tools that *can* be used to augment :interaction: often more successful in outcome that even the usual suspects in a group always taking the floor for example and all to often I might caution being repetitious. and work arounds are (as Betsy just said) always possible to explore.
12:37:44 From Dev Anand Teelucksingh : Re: chat - this is a benefit of having a group chat like Slack - have a channel for attendees to ask questions on a course
12:38:17 From Glenn McKnight FBSC : @ Dev did you say SLACK, shame on you. This to replace SKYPE?
12:38:30 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Exactly @Dev the trick is to ensure later integration for archive and access to material
12:38:33 From Heidi Ullrich : Could an At-Large course be developed that includes ICANN Learn courses followed by interactive webinars that directly discuss the course with all those who have completed the ICANN Learn Course?
12:38:52 From Heidi Ullrich : This would be a bit like a course followed by an At-Large seminar series
12:38:57 From Dev Anand Teelucksingh : it would then allow subscribers to the channel to answer questions and be "live" to directly answer question if its a presentation / session
12:39:11 From Heidi Ullrich : where ‘students’ discuss the course
12:39:51 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : @ Heidi that is use of a tool kit from my POV
12:39:55 From Heidi Ullrich : MSCs do that
12:40:35 From Nadira Al Araj : Like Moodle platform
12:40:41 From Heidi Ullrich : Yes, the module could include live webinars and ICANN Learn courses
12:41:00 From Heidi Ullrich : And ‘students’ then move from module to module
12:41:09 From Heidi Ullrich : The CBWG could host the live webinars
12:41:26 From Glenn McKnight FBSC : @nadira the idea of Moodle was pushed by me and SIva 10 years ago
12:42:36 From Nadira Al Araj : @Glenn, pity that it was not used them
12:42:45 From Nadira Al Araj : then
12:43:38 From Heidi Ullrich : @Cheryl, yes a tool kit or a ‘Course catalogue’
12:43:45 From Heidi Ullrich : @Daniel, noted
12:44:30 From Betsy Andrews : Fyi - the masterdom is in the resources tab of the How to Making an ICANN Learn course as well
12:44:56 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Thanks *as always* @Betsy
12:45:14 From Nadira Al Araj : Thank you Betsy
12:45:24 From Maureen Hilyard (ALAC) : Thank you muchly, Betsy
12:45:43 From Roberto : Thanks Betsy
12:45:45 From Joanna Kulesza : Perfect! Thank you Betsy!
12:48:04 From Glenn McKnight FBSC : I will volunteer with Dev on the second committee, Onboarding slide deck
12:48:16 From Dev Anand Teelucksingh : Thanks Glenn
12:48:19 From Nadira Al Araj : I volunteered but my name is not there
12:48:43 From Joanna Kulesza : Will edit accordingly Nadira! Thank you
12:48:44 From Glenn McKnight FBSC : I don't like working with Dev but i will grin and bear it:)
12:48:58 From Dev Anand Teelucksingh : ;-)
12:49:02 From Hadia Elminiawi : I would like to be on the webinars team and I am willing to lead
12:49:17 From Joanna Kulesza : Thanks Hadia!
12:49:28 From Hadia Elminiawi : Thank you Alfredo
12:49:33 From Nadira Al Araj : @Dev please note that I volunteered to work with your team.
12:49:58 From Glenn McKnight FBSC : Dev, Nadira and GLenn, a committee of trouble makers
12:50:22 From Dev Anand Teelucksingh : Thanks Nadira!
12:51:09 From Maureen Hilyard (ALAC) : Very brave Nadira
12:51:34 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Co Leads make sense in many of these teams
12:52:23 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Regarding these small Teams I am happy to assist (or backfill as needs be) in any and all of them just tap me as a resource as needed
12:52:30 From Glenn McKnight FBSC : Difficult to keep focused with Steve Crocker just now speaking at Kathy K's session on ISOC PIR sale disussion,
12:53:04 From Joanna Kulesza : Thank you Cheryl, that is duly noted.
12:53:39 From Dev Anand Teelucksingh : The challenge is the 30-40 day response needed for public comments
12:53:53 From Hadia Elminiawi : @Cheryl you are always a great help
12:53:57 From Glenn McKnight FBSC : Due to the NOMCOM meetings i am a bit busy in CANCUN but i can meet for breakfast most mornings
12:54:19 From Hadia Elminiawi : Sure no problem
12:56:07 From Hadia Elminiawi : Thank you Alfredo
12:58:15 From Hadia Elminiawi : ok great
12:58:18 From Kamara Lilian : received my consent email
12:58:51 From Hadia Elminiawi : I initially thought that we were all members on all three
12:59:02 From Hadia Elminiawi : till I realized that this was not the case
12:59:26 From Hadia Elminiawi : Thanks Joanna
12:59:50 From Hadia Elminiawi : @Alfredo yes now I understand
13:00:27 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Excellent session today THANK YOU all!!!
13:00:30 From Heidi Ullrich : All volunteers and leads have been noted on the wiki pages
13:00:42 From Nadira Al Araj : Thank you Joanna and Alfredo
13:00:44 From Michel TCHONANG : Thank all team for this good meeting
13:00:48 From Hadia Elminiawi : Thank you Joanna and Alfredo for a very clear and informative call
13:00:50 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : THis time works often for me
13:01:08 From Hadia Elminiawi : Thank you Betsy and all
13:01:27 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Bye for now@
13:01:30 From Ines Hfaiedh : Thank you Joanna, Betsy and all
13:01:31 From Hadia Elminiawi : Bye all
13:01:34 From Ines Hfaiedh : Bye
13:01:34 From Roberto : Bye
13:01:39 From Gunela Astbrink : bye
13:01:40 From Dev Anand Teelucksingh : Thanks all, bye
13:02:00 From Vrikson Acosta : Bye

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