Zoom Chat: 2020-11-03 OFB WG Call

09:53:27 From Dave Kissoondoyal : Hello everyone.. I know its early but I prefer to be here now as I have been having connection issues during the day and hope my connection is stable
09:54:51 From CART Support : Captions are up and running :)
09:55:37 From Claudia Ruiz : Thank you!
09:55:55 From Claudia Ruiz : Welcome to the Operations, Finance and Budget Working Group Call
09:57:02 From Maureen Hilyard : Hi everyone
09:57:23 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Hi
10:01:32 From Sonigitu Ekpe : Greetings from Calabar
10:02:52 From Heidi Ullrich : Welcome, All.
10:07:33 From Heidi Ullrich : Action Items will be noted at: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Action+Items%3A+2020-11-03+OFB+WG+Call
10:13:02 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : I believe Kim outlined that in a presentation
10:13:35 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : there will be gains in efficiencies with updates
10:13:49 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : and people come in earlier to implement those changes
10:14:06 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : (not doing justice to the reply sorry)
10:14:53 From Maureen Hilyard : Thank you Ricardo for this draft for the rest of us to add our comments
10:15:07 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : I also support a simple and clear statement/comment such as Ricardo has drafted
10:15:54 From Heidi Ullrich : The workspace for the development of the statement is at: https://community.icann.org/display/alacpolicydev/At-Large+Workspace%3A+DRAFT+PTI+and+IANA+FY22+Operating+Plan+and+Budgets
10:16:01 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : ot in the PTI IANA Budget amd planning
10:16:16 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : that is the ICANN Aspects noit THIS business unit
10:16:35 From Justine Chew : +1 Cheryl, wrong budget
10:17:15 From Judith Hellerstein : exactly Cheryl this is the wrong budget
10:17:17 From Joanna Kulesza ALAC : gotcha. Thanks!
10:17:40 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : So strat drafting ;-)
10:17:44 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : start
10:17:54 From Maureen Hilyard : But definitely something we will remember for the right budget, Joanna
10:18:44 From Joanna Kulesza ALAC : Not sure I have the expertise to start drafting that one guys but thanks for the vote of confidence :D
10:19:27 From Heidi Ullrich : The workspace for the IFR Initial Report is at: https://community.icann.org/display/alacpolicydev/At-Large+Workspace%3A+IANA+Naming+Function+Review+%28IFR%29+Initial+Report
10:19:48 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : drafting any concepts for the support and incentives you mentioned is certainly a good idea easu=ier to discuss from a draft
10:24:44 From Nadira AL-ARAJ : An excellent presentation
10:24:50 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : like the comment
10:24:56 From Joanna Kulesza ALAC : we love it Ricardo, thank you for leading this effort.
10:25:01 From Joanna Kulesza ALAC : <3
10:30:44 From Maureen Hilyard : I like Ricardo's idea, as per CPWG, where a small group takes a lead to initiate the studies and recommendations to bring back to the group for wider discussion
10:30:50 From Nadira AL-ARAJ : +1 Cheryl
10:32:07 From Nadira AL-ARAJ : @Ricardo, Cheryl did reply to my comment.
10:32:59 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : We need to remember we are NOT relitigating or editing these recommendations they are what they are
10:33:27 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : we can however prioritise from the At-Large perspective
10:33:50 From Maureen Hilyard : +1 Cheryl..
10:33:51 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : I should say prioritise and rank
10:34:02 From Judith Hellerstein : i was in WS2 Diversity
10:34:36 From Maureen Hilyard : We need small groups to even do the prioritising which is a task in itself.. but it can't be efficiently done by the large group.
10:34:39 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : I was in every damn track in WS2 and like SeB chaired a couple
10:35:14 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : couple as I said though we are NOT relitigating but rather triage applied in the context of todays environment is needed
10:36:01 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : if they are implemented then they are off the prioritisation table
10:36:01 From Maureen Hilyard : But focusing on a few topics at a time for a start for this group, would at least show we are making an effort to create a comment one way or the other.
10:36:18 From Nadira AL-ARAJ : Exactly Ricardo, we need to keep track in how these recommendation are implemented
10:42:20 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : what work though it is opinion it is polling we have individuals who ARE already either shepheards or were active in these pieces of work as ALAC appoints to ALL these Reviews
10:42:21 From Nadira AL-ARAJ : WE can start experimenting with WS2
10:42:31 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : we can tap those people'
10:43:02 From Maureen Hilyard : So Cheryl are you suggesting that we may have a couple or more small groups to look at several of the WS2 recommendations each and come back to the group to recommend what we should concentrate on more holistically..
10:43:27 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : I disagree (respectfully) with your last concern @Ricardo
10:43:47 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : there is aways work coming down the pipl
10:43:51 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : pipeline
10:44:10 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : and SubPro is an anolnaly that will NEVER be repeated agin
10:44:28 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : I have spent 4 years of my life making sure of that
10:45:14 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : yes
10:46:23 From Nadira AL-ARAJ : It is better not spread out after our first experiment with one WS2 then based on how we achieve then act accordingly on the other issues.
10:46:29 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : and the final listing is that which will also have to consider resourcing and current states of the Org
10:46:35 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : current states
10:46:57 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : we took lead roles and we do in ALL RT's as far as I can ascertain
10:47:35 From Nadira AL-ARAJ : I liked the approach of ATRT3 because it helped the community to focus on their feedback
10:47:36 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Ws2 was a LONG time ago in terms of evolution of these things and even ICANN ;-)
10:47:50 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : We tried @Nadira
10:48:31 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : and it was not an easy task so we hope the community appreciate what is required of the appointments to RT's that ALAC makes
10:48:37 From Maureen Hilyard : We could have breakouts during these WG meetings to have people discuss different sections of the work and then come back to the main group, with their reports.
10:48:40 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Committee of the whole yes
10:48:45 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : whole
10:49:00 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : NP @Riccardo
10:49:32 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : But we need to work on Ws2 initially
10:50:32 From Nadira AL-ARAJ : @Cheryl, it is good that you can guide from experience
10:51:44 From Maureen Hilyard : +1 Sebastien, I agree that a small group could at least come up with a recommendation about what this group could concentrate on - as Cheryl mentions based on what we have received already in other At-Large forums.. rather than sharing it by everybody and no one does it..
10:53:24 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : but we have access to people who were active in ALL of these RTs and CCWG
10:53:46 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Focus in WS2 between now and mid Dec
10:54:38 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : I am trying to bring a little report for a tiny activity called SubPro to end by mid Dec
10:54:49 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : I will assist as needs be
10:55:10 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : assist NOt main activity
10:55:21 From Judith Hellerstein : what are you looking for volunteers for
10:55:28 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : it needs to be TASKED correctly
10:55:59 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : for WS2 triage correct??
10:56:01 From Bachollet Sebastien - Euralo : available
10:56:51 From Maureen Hilyard : A call can go out from staff calling for volunteers for the WS2 small team and clearly stating what their responsibility will be
10:56:53 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : good SeB ping me as required I DO have to focus on SubPro and a few other things by end Dec
10:57:29 From Bachollet Sebastien - Euralo : OK Cheryl
10:57:46 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : RPM's PD is not near complete
10:57:50 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : EXACTLY
10:58:03 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : and not even phase 1 reported
10:58:17 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : work for 2023
10:58:39 From Justine Chew : Yes, can drop RPM
10:58:46 From Justine Chew : For now.
10:58:51 From Heidi Ullrich : The spreadsheet is at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sHeEp0R-EiuRouVmSEixEJicERT6n0FL5CrMOmJ1o7E/edit#gid=0
10:59:23 From Heidi Ullrich : RPM is not on the spreadsheet
10:59:33 From Maureen Hilyard : But haven't we decided that we are going to focus on WS2 cos that is a biggie.. and because it includes others on the list..
11:00:24 From Justine Chew : Someone has to properly scope the work of this small group
11:00:38 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : I sure hope so @Justine
11:00:45 From Justine Chew : Or large group, for that matter
11:00:47 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : or it will go off the rails
11:00:50 From Maureen Hilyard : EXACTLY Justine..
11:00:52 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Bye for now then
11:00:53 From Judith Hellerstein : i agree Justine
11:01:02 From Heidi Ullrich : Thanks, All.
11:01:04 From Abdulkarim Oloyede : bye
11:01:04 From Judith Hellerstein : bye
11:01:06 From Sarah Kiden : Thanks
11:01:07 From Dave Kissoondoyal : Thanks and bye to all
11:01:13 From Maureen Hilyard : Thanks Ricardo for your preparation
11:01:23 From Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong : bye