Terri Agnew:Welcome to the Finance and Budget Subcommittee WG Teleconference on Friday, 29 January 2016 at 17:00 UTC
Terri Agnew:meeting page: https://community.icann.org/x/Jgd1Aw
Terri Agnew:to join on the telephone please use the following adigo codes: English: 3535 and Spanish 1738
Terri Agnew:At-Large FY17 Budget Development Workspace: https://community.icann.org/x/C5pCAw
Beran Gillen:hello everyone
Ali Almeshal:hello everyone
Kaili Kan:Finally able to log in. Hello, everybody!
Alan Greenberg:Hi Kaili. How is the CCT RT going. Has leadership been selected?
Sébastien:I will be realy join later (sorry)
Allan Skuce:Greetings.
Kaili Kan:@greenberg: So far CCT-RT is mostly admin stuff. Jonathan Zuck is chair. Vice-chairs to be selected after a work plan is developed to deveide the work load.
Kaili Kan:@Greenberg: After each meeting an email has been sent to all ALAC members for briefing.
Terri Agnew:Welcome Judith Hellerstein
Judith Hellerstein:adobe finally loaded. I was on the phone but hadnot been listed by terri
Judith Hellerstein:I am dialing in with skype
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Re: Strategic Working Session, I note a possible typo, under interpretation services is the phrase "Interpretation into FR and EN" - this should be "Interpretation into FR and ES"
Terri Agnew:the current page has been updated, one moment while I update this in the pod
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Are there recordings and/or agendas of the Strategic Working Session that was done in Dublin posted?
Heidi Ullrich:@Dev, yes, there should be.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:yes it was a blaxk box to many of us But I trust worthwhile
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:So there aren't recordings/public agendas for later review for the development session
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:ARIN :-)
Heidi Ullrich:@Tim, yes, Saturday would add 1 day of hotel and pd - so additional costs
Glenn McKnight:I support it
Judith Hellerstein:So are we supporting it?
Terri Agnew:recordings and transcriptions are posted here from Dublin https://community.icann.org/x/QKc0Aw
Judith Hellerstein:We already had a request for spanish and we had to turn this person down since the pilot is only in english
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Thanks Terri
Judith Hellerstein:I support this request
Glenn McKnight:I think the fix has validity to other RALO's too
Glenn McKnight:not just LACRALO
Judith Hellerstein:Afralo is also looking at this if this is successful
Daniel K. Nanghaka:That is right Judith
Glenn McKnight:Reality is this has been an onging problem
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Indeed, well said, Alan : re: LACRALO mailing list
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:The issues with the LACRALO mailing list have been extensively documented by the TTF : https://community.icann.org/display/LACRALO/discussion-of-LACRALO-mailing-list-issues
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Translation Tool: So that's 3 ALAC past and current Chairs pointing at this. Will that be enough?
Judith Hellerstein:Yes that is why I suggested that it be an ALAC request
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Do we have to bring in the Pope on this?
Maureen Hilyard:@OCL LOL
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:So the RALO and ALAC Development Sessions will be running concurrently on the "extra" last day ?
Judith Hellerstein:Good question Dev
Glenn McKnight:|The leadership training is pracitical professional development tied to existing systems
Judith Hellerstein:Why not have this as a crop program
Judith Hellerstein:Raising hand
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Indeed, the focus seems to be not for At-Large - it does look like a good fit for ICANN GSE
Terri Agnew:@Judith, your audio is choppy
Glenn McKnight:judith is poor
Glenn McKnight:voice quality
Glenn McKnight:Judith type in your comments
Terri Agnew:@Judith, I know you are connected via skype, let me know if a dial out on the telephone is needed
Judith Hellerstein:OK I will type it in the chat
Glenn McKnight:not good
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Shouldn't this request, great as it is, be submitted from another AC/SO ?
Wafa Dahmani:I support what tijani said
Heidi Ullrich:@Dev, it is submitted by an ALS
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:@Heidi, I understand that, its just that the goals./objectives doesn't appear to be At-Large focused, it is a good proposal otherwsie
Glenn McKnight:This type of proposal should go to the ISOC Beyond the Net for funding
Glenn McKnight:Not a good fit
Daniel K. Nanghaka:What are the funding limits?
Glenn McKnight:The proposals need to be more focused on the core ICANN mission and mandate as to ALAC
Glenn McKnight:The idea is a good one but why not approach Diplo or Soros or other funders
Daniel K. Nanghaka:I think multi partners and sponsors can be reached out
Judith Hellerstein:i am back on
Judith Hellerstein:I also have simialr concerns and finally am on with another service
Ali Almeshal:thanks Maureen
Judith Hellerstein:New Hnad
Maureen Hilyard:Taking into account the comments made by ALT, APRALO is looking at alternative funding options for the whole activity
Judith Hellerstein:New hand
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:LACRALO has taken trips to regional countries and have filed it as CROPP
Judith Hellerstein:dialed back in outside the hotel
Maureen Hilyard:Although the view is to look at the involvement of non-commercial interests in the ALAC, we are also cognisant of the need to raise awareness of the other parts of ICANN as well
Glenn McKnight:|This isn't the only example of ISOC having confusing ISOC Chapters and ISOC is aware of this problem
Maureen Hilyard:Thank you Cheryl.. we will look out for other events that occur in the Asianarea which we can use to create the interaction opportunity
Judith Hellerstein:i do not think we should put it forward.
Ali Almeshal:agree with Maureen
Glenn McKnight:Alan you need to update with Kathy Brown on this issue
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Holly should also remember that when several people from ISC visited AU about 6 years or so back Our Internet Chapter of ISOC hosted a day meeting in Canberra with them VERY worthwhile to network with
Glenn McKnight:Perhaps when you were on the board was the case but not now.
Judith Hellerstein:Yes I agree with you glenn
Judith Hellerstein:Yes it does sound like a CROPP request
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:That would be my question, it does sound like a CROPP request
Alan Greenberg:@Glenn, it may well now be viewed as a problem, in which case I mis-spoke, but if so, it is a new issue.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Perhaps Kathy does need to talk to those of us who have been around for so much longer hen , as the ISC has been aroound as long as ISOC has, and we are/were at least, well aware f each other
Heidi Ullrich:@APRALO members - is the IGF request for a specific panel? Will all of the supported members be on panels?
Judith Hellerstein:Yes and I do not understand why ICANN is funding this as Funding is available from the IGF secretariat
Judith Hellerstein:and also from the Internet society
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:It would come down to priorities - for example would there be a need to have multiple persons going to a outreach event or can one traveller go
Judith Hellerstein:I agree with Olivier
Maureen Hilyard:@OCL.. Great idea expand CROP slots! I agreee
Daniel K. Nanghaka:CROPP funding is limited
Maureen Hilyard:yes continue
Judith Hellerstein:yes. i can continue
Terri Agnew:Our interpreters can stay longer as well, up to 15 minutes
Daniel K. Nanghaka:I suggest more CROPP slots should be created and also CROPP for local engagement
Allan Skuce:Leaving, Thanks I will follow up on recording.
Maureen Hilyard:this request supports something RALOS have been asking for aaaaages1
Heidi Ullrich:The first workshop will be an information and capacity building session about ICANN and its role into the Internet governance ecosystem.The second workshop will be a round table discussion for marketing and development strategies for the ccTLD of .ps and .فلسطين through the Palestinian National Internet Naming Authority (PNINA).
Ali Almeshal:HI Hedidi, the other one is Dot Palestinian
Maureen Hilyard:Palestine is getting funding from other sources - but I am grateful for info about funding by IGF - we will pass this on
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:The propsoal does mention having SME coming to the event
Judith Hellerstein:Yes I think they can get over 5k from the IGF secretariat and then ISOC global also provides funding
Maureen Hilyard:Thanks Judith. I will pass this on to Nadira
Glenn McKnight:I think we are getting proposals that are diverting from the ALAC mandate
Judith Hellerstein:APRALO could also send some one for a cropp funding trip
Maureen Hilyard:They already hve ISOC event funding
Daniel K. Nanghaka:ICANN provided some funding for East Africa IGF
Judith Hellerstein:Dev that to me is more of a CROPP funding trip
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Nigel Hickson is Government Engagement & under GSE
Glenn McKnight:@daniel how much and for what did ICANN fund the IGF in africa
Judith Hellerstein:but that is not the IGF funding ISOC has a separate IGF fudning stream
Daniel K. Nanghaka:It was to support the EAIGF - about the exact funds and support am not sure
Glenn McKnight:If funded in the past we need details to pass judgement
Daniel K. Nanghaka:We had different stakeholders support the EAIGF including ISOC, CIPESA, Ministry of ICT, NITA to mention
Judith Hellerstein:APNIC should also be asked for funding
Maureen Hilyard:and APRALO has only put forward applications from active ALSes.. and we are trying to encourage ALSes and their involvement
Glenn McKnight:My point the IGF funding details is critical to make a proper assessment
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:It looks like the costs are around $2000 US
Judith Hellerstein:But Tijani Nadira is more active in the NCUC than in at large I think
Maureen Hilyard:CROP - yes we definitely looking at having to extend this activity
Maureen Hilyard:Actually Nadira is an active member of APRALO
Wafa Dahmani:sorry but I have to leave
Maureen Hilyard:@Heidi The funds requested are included on the application but I can't access it at the moment
Judith Hellerstein:@allan I agree with you
Judith Hellerstein:Why not use this as a CROPP activity
Terri Agnew:goodbye Wafa
Tijani BEN JEMAA:She is an ALS leader
Judith Hellerstein:I do not think we should keep it in since we have rejected other similar ones
Ali Almeshal:Just a note for ISIG the requested budget is $5000
Maureen Hilyard:As for our applications (APRALO) the At-Large context? even if organised by an ALS like ours are..
Maureen Hilyard:If ours are rejected.. then we have to reject Euralo
Judith Hellerstein:I agree with you Maureen
Maureen Hilyard:Notice I don't say we are rejecting Olivier!
Glenn McKnight:We are saying softer language
Glenn McKnight:|This was submitted last year
Glenn McKnight:it was approved as EURALO but we ceded EURALO to have their event in Dublin
Glenn McKnight:We were nice guys
Glenn McKnight:We are being prudent
Glenn McKnight:We are being prudent
Glenn McKnight:We had the impression that we would on the top of the que this year
Judith Hellerstein:That is way to late. We are overdue and should have it in PR
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:significant discord is an understatement
Terri Agnew:I will be uploading a revised page, one moment please
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Indeed, logistics at an ICANN meeting would be easier
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:exactly Tijiani
Daniel K. Nanghaka:That is right Tijani
Glenn McKnight:Mexico is a country(Ha ha)
Glenn McKnight:Alan is hot today\
Daniel K. Nanghaka:These will set after the Request has been approved
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:it doesn't make sense logistically to have it outside of an ICANN meeting
Glenn McKnight:correct
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:yes, I am going to be quiet on this
Terri Agnew:interpreters can stay until the top of the hour.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:thanks Terri
Glenn McKnight:No it uses your phone
Glenn McKnight:no extra hardware
Glenn McKnight:no extra hardware
Glenn McKnight:Just a app
Glenn McKnight:Layar or Aurasma
Glenn McKnight:He has done alot of them
Glenn McKnight:sure
Glenn McKnight:a small pilot is fine
Glenn McKnight:Alfredo can modify it
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:lol
Daniel K. Nanghaka:Time alert
Glenn McKnight:Sounds like Mission Impossible This tape will be destroyed in 60 secs
Cheryl Langdon-Orr::-)
Daniel K. Nanghaka:This calls for CROPP slots to be increased
Daniel K. Nanghaka:@Hieldi
Tijani BEN JEMAA:I have to leave
Tijani BEN JEMAA:Bye
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:it doesn't look so, CROPP is regional travel - this looks like travel to ICANN F2F meetings
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:as a pilot for the PR Meeting
Glenn McKnight:As you recall they were the major sponsors at the NARALO showcase
Taryn Presley 2:Agreed. Thank you, all.
Daniel K. Nanghaka:Thank you
Ali Almeshal:thanks
Judith Hellerstein:Some of us are waiting for dinner
Daniel K. Nanghaka:Bye
Daniel K. Nanghaka:Good night
Kaili Kan:Thank you all for this learning experience also. Goodbye!
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Take care all
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:bye
