Andrea Glandon: (2/20/2019 12:35) Welcome to the At-Large Technology Task Force Call held on Wednesday, 20 February 2019 at 20:00 UTC.
Andrea Glandon: (12:35) Wiki Agenda Page: https://community.icann.org/x/94g2Bg
Evin Erdoğdu: (13:29) Hello all, welcome.
Andrea Glandon: (13:44) Ricardo, you made it! Welcome!
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (14:02) Hmm....was it the Adobe Connect 10 room with the HTML client ð
Judith Hellerstein: (14:02) yes
Judith Hellerstein: (14:02) i think so
Judith Hellerstein: (14:03) I had thought we had cancelled the spanish translation channel
Abdulkarim: (14:04) hi
Gunela Astbrink: (14:04) Thanks for this friendly time zone at this time
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (14:04) https://community.icann.org/display/LACRALO/discussion-of-LACRALO-mailing-list-issues
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (14:07) - -To implement a special code or phrase such as --END- so the tool would know it does not need to translate the entire email.
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (14:07) - Third party tool : https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mailparser.io&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=k7uKdjSb7_ZjItyVqrCYHo_rKms9SFxlmbYEJqG-y9I&m=x44_wes2pEpBhmzmACgMxZjjL_gah3TE9IR0cpB9wF8&s=V2tJsfH0THOE0thfDlN7ffi-NyCiSgJtwOYr3tWhoOg&e=
Glenn McKnight-NARALO: (14:10) Since Laura on the call does she have an update on the Policy Tracking?
Silvia Vivanco: (14:10) Hello all
Sarah Kiden: (14:10) Hi everyone, I'm sorry I'm late
Lutz Donnerhacke: (14:11) I'm currently without audio. Local problem.
Andrea Glandon: (14:11) @Lutz, happy to dial out if you would like
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (14:12) Yes
Abdulkarim: (14:12) agree with Gleen
Judith Hellerstein: (14:12) @heidi you will be next
Abdulkarim: (14:12) Glenn took a picture of my mind
Lutz Donnerhacke: (14:15) Done.
Laura Bengford: (14:15) @Glenn, that is part of the Action Advise Registry Project which provides updates on this page, https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__features.icann.org_board-2Dadvice&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=k7uKdjSb7_ZjItyVqrCYHo_rKms9SFxlmbYEJqG-y9I&m=x44_wes2pEpBhmzmACgMxZjjL_gah3TE9IR0cpB9wF8&s=ezSf66O8GDGFttxCz_oKuDpLUvzREt2CgroDjlnBk-Y&e= right. The current phase is an internal DB, a future phase is to improve the external view and DB.
Adrian Schmidt: (14:16) he is coming too loud we cannot understand
Glenn McKnight-NARALO: (14:16) muted
Heidi Ullrich: (14:17) This is the text within the ALAC Statement on the FY20 budget: Complementing the important provision of translations and interpretation from Language Services is the continued need for effective, efficient and reliable solutions for automated e-mail translation servicesthat will enable regular communications and interactions within the ICANN Community, particularly within policy work. We are aware of the various shortcomings of some solutions tried in the past, but heartily endorse the continued attempts by ICANN IT to provide more robust tools. We encourage ICANN to provide the appropriate level of resourcing to ICANN ITto allow for exploration, testing and support of the most appropriate resource fit for purpose
Evin Erdoğdu: (14:17) Thank you @Heidi
Lutz Donnerhacke: (14:20) Will we have a problem with UK based servers or services? https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__edpb.europa.eu_sites_edpb_files_files_file1_edpb-2D2019-2D02-2D12-2Dinfonote-2Dnodeal-2Dbrexit-5Fen.pdf&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=k7uKdjSb7_ZjItyVqrCYHo_rKms9SFxlmbYEJqG-y9I&m=x44_wes2pEpBhmzmACgMxZjjL_gah3TE9IR0cpB9wF8&s=DosdmsdHy-y-80v238-jq-qaGQVfh6Is7F3xZSuy1JI&e= says in short: EU based with UK operator should change immediatly, while UK based with EU operator can continue
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (14:23) I'm willing to assist with testing
Glenn McKnight-NARALO: (14:24) Adrian is a Spanish speaker too and technical
Glenn McKnight-NARALO: (14:25) My limited Spanish was from the Speedy Gonzalas cartoons
Silvia Vivanco: (14:25) I will be happy to be on the test list as well
Sarah Kiden: (14:26) Would have loved to test though my Spanish is very minimum - just hello and thank you :-)
Silvia Vivanco: (14:26) thanks Sarah, :)
Silvia Vivanco: (14:27) @ Glenn :)!
Glenn McKnight-NARALO: (14:27) Vaboose, Adelay, Adelay, Loco, etc
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (14:28) Confluence blog post on confluence 6.0 announcing Collaborative editing in 2016 : https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.atlassian.com_blog_confluence_collaborative-2Dediting-2Dconfluence-2D6-2D0&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=k7uKdjSb7_ZjItyVqrCYHo_rKms9SFxlmbYEJqG-y9I&m=x44_wes2pEpBhmzmACgMxZjjL_gah3TE9IR0cpB9wF8&s=-gj6JSsuPLz9GeB6Fd1rq84dwZcD4iGEzG2V8u7QkUg&e=
Abdulkarim: (14:28) Sarah you can test with French
Evin Erdoğdu: (14:30) Old hand sorry
Sarah Kiden: (14:31) @Abdulkarim it is only being tested in LACRALO for now
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (14:33) Well between EN and ES for now - there is also an idea for scaling translation between multiple langugages at the same time
Laura Bengford: (14:33) A Slack pilot for collaboration is on our radar
Sarah Kiden: (14:34) @Judith what do you mean that everyone has to sign up for a zoom account?
Glenn McKnight-NARALO: (14:35) Slack pilot interesting. This has been a challenge for some who are sold on SKYPE and resistant in using SLACK
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (14:36) For info about the ICANN At-Large Community Slack , documentation has begun at https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Slack
Glenn McKnight-NARALO: (14:37) hand is down. i typed in the comment
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (14:37) If you want to join the At-Large Slack : bitly.com/AtlargeSlackInvite
Laura Bengford: (14:37) Thank you @dev
Adrian Schmidt: (14:38) Sorry I'm new on this group and maybe was already said, but any test on google hangouts? if you have a registered organization, features can be interesting.
Harold Arcos: (14:38) indeed Master @Glenn,,,,there was a lot of resistant to use slack
Judith Hellerstein: (14:38) @glenn your phone is not muted
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (14:39) https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__icannatlarge.slack.com_&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=k7uKdjSb7_ZjItyVqrCYHo_rKms9SFxlmbYEJqG-y9I&m=x44_wes2pEpBhmzmACgMxZjjL_gah3TE9IR0cpB9wF8&s=Ig_2YWwkWD4gg0b5VpuGtY0Ypfqjo3UCjSfJVDjw8kg&e=
Gunela Astbrink: (14:41) If we're looking at a new tool like Slack, let's make sure it's accessible for people with disability
Sarah Kiden: (14:41) +1 Gunela
Adrian Schmidt: (14:41) Any thoughts about going open source on the chat tool / communication? (like https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__rocket.chat_&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=k7uKdjSb7_ZjItyVqrCYHo_rKms9SFxlmbYEJqG-y9I&m=x44_wes2pEpBhmzmACgMxZjjL_gah3TE9IR0cpB9wF8&s=keBSfACGiB4JUoPEOPZtklhFR58WB4lpWBbijYzB6BI&e= just an example) It shouldn't be too expensive to host something like that on the cloud... just my 2 cents from the Education world...
Glenn McKnight-NARALO: (14:42) I have a AOB issue at the end
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (14:42) @Adrian - It was tested but the key features of conferencing features (ability to raise hands, chat pod, variable layouts) were a challenge
Sarah Kiden: (14:42) I believe rocket.chat was tested at some point?
Gunela Astbrink: (14:43) AC is really difficult for people with vision impairment while Zoom is considered more accessible
Glenn McKnight-NARALO: (14:43) @sarah we had a presentation by James Gannon
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (14:43) @Adrian the TTF did evaluate Rocket.chat and Mattermost
Adrian Schmidt: (14:43) Okay sorry I'm new to this group.
Glenn McKnight-NARALO: (14:43) @Adrian its worth revisting
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (14:44) @Adrian no problem - let me find our report on group chat
Sarah Kiden: (14:44) Gree with Glenn + Adrian. Features could have changed now
Sarah Kiden: (14:44) Agree*
Gunela Astbrink: (14:45) Can we test the new version of AC with persons with disability if we have to use this tool?
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (14:47) @Adrian - here is the slidedeck from ICANN61 - there are slides re: how TTF looked at group chat : https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_presentation_d_1tkSJKZQSMaqtMWwsom6ZxWN-2DgwElv8kZjA5kTKiiTzs_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=k7uKdjSb7_ZjItyVqrCYHo_rKms9SFxlmbYEJqG-y9I&m=x44_wes2pEpBhmzmACgMxZjjL_gah3TE9IR0cpB9wF8&s=dMHID9gzfYlLkQjGMInlkRo7i-z-thyXc7xVkVtjHyY&e=
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (14:47) Pages 42-51
Glenn McKnight-NARALO: (14:48) Judith i have a AOB issue before time runs out
Laura Bengford: (14:50) +1 Gunela!
Gunela Astbrink: (14:53) Thanks, Judith. If it's a major new tool or update, there is a benefit to *proactively* check with a couple of dedicated people with disability about accessibility rather than accept what the company may assert or wait until someone alerts us.
Judith Hellerstein: (14:53) @glenn and @gunela can you put yourself on mute
Judith Hellerstein: (14:54) thank you
Mark Segall: (14:54) feedback.icann.org
Mark Segall: (14:55) https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__feedback.icann.org&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=k7uKdjSb7_ZjItyVqrCYHo_rKms9SFxlmbYEJqG-y9I&m=x44_wes2pEpBhmzmACgMxZjjL_gah3TE9IR0cpB9wF8&s=CjLd1ibZdoOR6ZLu_WcYOx6SMr4e7LmbY0dB_I2Sp-U&e=
Laura Bengford: (14:55) @gunela for any new tools, we do an evaluation of Accessibility by our front end architect so we don't just accept when they say they are accessible.
Sarah Kiden: (14:56) I had an AOB but I can raise it again during the next meeting
Sarah Kiden: (14:56) @Judith has mentioned it
Glenn McKnight-NARALO: (14:56) My problem with Adigo today I had my hand up but no one noticed.....
Sarah Kiden: (14:56) Sometimes I get over 5 dropped calls during a single call
Glenn McKnight-NARALO: (14:57) Judith what about my comment
Judith Hellerstein: (14:57) you are next
Daniel K. Nanghaka: (14:57) Adigo is messed up
Gunela Astbrink: (14:57) @Laura, great to know. How does the front end architect do this? Maybe we can take this discussion off-line?
Heidi Ullrich: (14:57) 3 mins until the top of the hour - and the CPWG
Daniel K. Nanghaka: (14:57) frequently calls are dropping, I resorted to AC
Abdulkarim: (14:58) i have to go now i have another meeting starting in 2 mins
Laura Bengford: (14:58) I need to leave for a mtg. Thank you everyone
Sarah Kiden: (14:59) Thank you everyone!
Evin Erdoğdu: (14:59) Thank you!
Harold Arcos: (14:59) +1 Adrian; about rocket.chat
Gordon Chillcott: (14:59) Thanks and bye for now.
Adrian Schmidt: (15:00) thank you! Have a good one!
Heidi Ullrich: (15:00) Thanks, All!
Abdulkarim: (15:00) thanks
Silvia Vivanco: (15:00) Thanks all
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (15:00) Thanks all
Gunela Astbrink: (15:00) Thank you again for this time slot. Bye all
Daniel K. Nanghaka: (15:00) Thanks all
Harold Arcos: (15:00) thanks all,,,
Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong: (15:01) Bye
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