00:11:16    Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org:    Negar and Giovanni
00:11:33    Giovanni Seppia - ICANN Org:    Hi everyone!
00:11:41    Holly Raiche:    Hello all
00:12:09    Nthabiseng Pule:    Hi everyone. Nthabiseng here!
00:13:31    Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org:    Welcome Nthabiseng
00:14:54    Margaret Benavides - ICANN Org:    I will be presenting, thank you. -Margaret Benavides
00:15:54    Glenn McKnight - VSIG:    computer battery died. i am back now
00:16:18    Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org:    Welcome back Glenn
00:17:28    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    TOr
00:17:33    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    TOR
00:17:56    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    and NC Review bylaw changes
00:19:01    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    Also  It has not been decided how ALAC will approach the TOR  in terms of ALAC briefing  and CPWG/Our WG  engagement  but it makes sense for us to prepare
00:19:25    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    This also may take a more Wholistic approach
00:24:03    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    Exactly Holly
00:24:07    Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org:    TOR - ALAC will deal with TOR within CPWG or this OFB WG - discussion on this item  will continue within ALAC
00:25:09    Maureen Hilyard:    +Silvia. There are ALAC members on both groups to inform any ALAC discussions
00:25:41    Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org:    noted @Maureen
00:25:46    Maureen Hilyard:    This is a helpful information sheet,
00:31:27    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    All good
00:31:42    Maureen Hilyard:    Thank you for that info Margaret
00:31:44    Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org:    Thank you Margaret!
00:31:55    Margaret Benavides - ICANN Org:    Thank you all.
00:34:48    Margaret Benavides - ICANN Org:    FYI: This was a document on the ABR process from last year: https://community.icann.org/display/projfinadhocws/FY23+Additional+Budget+Request+%28ABR%29+Process?preview=/176623355/176623368/FY23%20Additional%20Budget%20Request%20Process%20.docx
00:35:32    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    Of the 11 or so OFBWG Members here today  how Many are Members of the actual  OGFBSC the Sub Committee  who actually have to deal with the review of the ABRs  as they need to be upskilled and informed as well on this topic...  Question for Staff Action for Holly
00:35:55    Margaret Benavides - ICANN Org:    You are welcome. Thank you, all.
00:38:57    Maureen Hilyard:    +1 Cheryl. A new group of regional representatives may be appointed for the upcoming year. But they should be attending this group anyway in order to make appropriate selections of the ABR proposals that will go forward to Org.
00:39:31    Giovanni Seppia - ICANN Org:    Information and updates on the MSM project are displayed at https://community.icann.org/display/MSM
00:39:32    Harold Arcos:    +1 @Maureen
00:40:40    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    INdeed they should Maureen
00:41:55    Giovanni Seppia - ICANN Org:    List of projects/initiatives that are contributing to the MSM are will be going through evaluation is available at https://community.icann.org/display/MSM/Implementation
00:42:15    Holly Raiche:    Thanks Giovanni
00:42:50    Giovanni Seppia - ICANN Org:    Sorry for the typo in the message, the second “are" should read “and”
00:43:07    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    This is an essential analysis on these projects  *and timely*  I must say
00:43:51    Giovanni Seppia - ICANN Org:    @ Cheryl, thanks. We look forward to receiving input from the whole community in the coming months
00:43:59    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    Personally I firmly believe we *can* do better in the integration and engagement pathways  post these projects
00:44:16    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    but the how and how successful in t hat needs this data
00:45:07    Alfredo Calderon:    +1 @Cheryl.  More needs to be done to improve the results.
00:45:26    Sébastien Bachollet:    The data you ^rovoded will be published?
00:45:40    Sébastien Bachollet:    provided
00:46:29    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    Hopefully all of it after the next or leading up to ICANN 75
00:50:44    Giovanni Seppia - ICANN Org:    @ Holly, The list of extra projects (extra against the initial list) includes some of the initiatives you just mentioned.
00:50:52    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    Well noted @Negar  thanks for that answer
00:50:59    Holly Raiche:    Thanks Giovanni
00:52:35    Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org:    thanks Negar and Giovanni
00:52:48    Marita Moll (ALAC):    Maybe your slide 2 could say something about tracking the results of "enhancing......"
00:53:02    Glenn McKnight - VSIG:    Question to group.   NARALO aims to wrap up their  Outreach and Engagment plan but we are stimatized on the lack of clarify on where the Discretionary Funds and CROP  is available for this fiscal period.  It makes it difficult to do outreach without these tools
00:53:05    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    Good point @Marita
00:53:23    Negar Farzinnia - ICANN Org:    Thanks, Marita!
00:54:30    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    there is desperate need to follow up expectations to be clear, developed and met by ICANN.Org
00:55:20    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    the need is recognised the 'solutions' are piecemeal at best non existant most comonly
00:56:39    Maureen Hilyard:    +1 Alfredo. continuing contact with the mentees is important to keep them engaged and participating, as Negar has just mentioned.
00:56:47    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    Yup for years now we have been all about the bring in the new... … …   but the 'Then What' is sadly lacking and not coordinated at all
00:57:04    Maureen Hilyard:    +1 Cheryl
00:57:22    Alfredo Calderon:    You can count on my support and input.
00:57:47    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    "to Maureens point thst comes back at this stage to the quality and ability to commit ongong from the "Mentors
00:57:51    Negar Farzinnia - ICANN Org:    Thanks, Alfredo!
00:57:56    Maureen Hilyard:    Thank you Alfredo
00:58:42    Maureen Hilyard:    +1 good point Alfredo
00:59:39    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    and I know I keep banging on about this but ICANN  "Mentoring" is often actually peer support or coaching etc.,  we need the full deck of tools in this  and they need SMART planning and coordination and support to work at the best for these projects
00:59:46    Maureen Hilyard:    Glen is also participating in the USA IGF
01:00:32    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    and I complement this MSM review of projects  for the baseline metrics approach to start with
01:01:29    Harold Arcos:    +1 @Glenn,, we all have the same situation,,
01:01:40    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    Same in APRALO  as well
01:02:53    Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org:    https://community.icann.org/display/soacabout/CROP-FY22 - this is the last CROP available
01:03:00    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    we currently rely on our own pockets to continue the engagement  don't we @Maureen  <insert> accommodation for the APrIGF meeting being attended  right before ICANN KL Meeting in SIngapore
01:03:43    Alfredo Calderon:    HUM! Have not seen the announcement of available funds and or guidelines to apply!
01:04:06    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    there is no access as far as I know as travel support for an risk in covid is effecting what is an is not possible still
01:04:29    Becky Nash - ICANN Org:    Thanks Alex.
01:04:57    Becky Nash - ICANN Org:    Holly the Org staff contacts are Ozan Sahin and Joseph de Jesus and we will pass along that this can come up on this to them.
01:05:03    Maureen Hilyard:    Maybe we need to get the policy team in to clarify what their criteria are, as the Finance team has done for u.
01:05:09    Maureen Hilyard:    us
01:05:40    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    the Travel criteria is still the sticking oitn by my read
01:05:53    Becky Nash - ICANN Org:    @Maureen - yes great recommendation.
01:06:05    Marita Moll (ALAC):    When money is not being spend for travel due to travel hesitancy there seems no way to move that money to other useful purposes to support vollunteers
01:07:07    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    so unless a venue meets the ICANN standards of safety it is still a no go, and even though APrIGF 2022 in Singapore the week before  for example  aspires to meet ICANNS requirements  the timing will unlikely work as the details in that meeting is still being finalised
01:07:15    Glenn McKnight - VSIG:    @cheryl and Maureen i too am picking up the cost of hotel at APSIG
01:07:16    Giovanni Seppia - ICANN Org:    Thank you all for the always valuable conversation and input. We look forward to the engagement session at ICANN75
01:07:31    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    exactly Glenn
01:08:16    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    and ICANN neither care or kniw about our ongoing personal eenses  covering these activities still done  that reflet well on the Org *SIGH
01:16:16    Marita Moll (ALAC):    Perhaps we, as a group, need to look at these elements first to see how them might be incorporated in our responses to a draft budget
01:16:32    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    took the owrd right out of my mind @Martia
01:16:38    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    words
01:16:47    Alfredo Calderon:    +1 @Marita suggestion.
01:16:58    Maureen Hilyard:    +1 @Marita
01:17:15    Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org:    very good idea @Marita
01:19:45    Maureen Hilyard:    And how we retain our volunteers in order to have these important conversations..
01:19:58    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    indeed @Maureen
01:20:28    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    there is of course overlap and nexus with some of the other MSM work and projects review also discussed today as well
01:21:20    Maureen Hilyard:    @Cheryl. very true and a more comprehensive look at our own priorities from the strategic trends is needed first
01:21:25    Harold Arcos:    @Holly that session you suggest is urgently necessary.
01:21:34    Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org:    AI: Holly and WG members will get discuss how the WG can respond better to the Budget process
01:21:37    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    Yup @Maureen
01:21:59    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    Sylvia I thisn that AI is poorly written
01:22:04    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    thihnk
01:22:07    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    think
01:22:16    Vanda's iPhone 6S:    I have another meeting starting so apologies but I need to leave  - good meeting than you
01:22:27    Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org:    next meeting to be held in 2 weeks - week of August 1st
01:22:51    Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org:    You're welcome
01:23:01    Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org:    and special session- week of august 8th
01:23:12    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    Until then...  bye for now.
01:23:20    Becky Nash - ICANN Org:    Thank you everyone.
01:23:23    Giovanni Seppia - ICANN Org:    Thank you all for having us
01:23:25    Negar Farzinnia - ICANN Org:    Thanks everyone!
01:23:26    Marita Moll (ALAC):    Thanks all. Good session.
01:23:29    Alfredo Calderon:    Thank you all! Stay well and safe.
01:23:33    Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org:    Thank you very much !
01:23:35    Margaret Benavides - ICANN Org:    Thank you.
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