00:15:54 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Bill is lsted on the call
00:16:02 Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org: Hello all welcome
00:16:09 Faheem Soomro: Hi everyone
00:16:19 Emmanuel MFITUMUKIZA: Hi everyone
00:16:20 Lilian Ivette: hello everyone
00:16:33 Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org: Welcome everyone!
00:16:39 Bill Jouris: Replying to "Bill is lsted on the..."
I'm obviously quantum -- both here and not here.
00:16:53 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Replying to "Bill is lsted on the..."
Perfect quark
00:17:10 Bill Jouris: Replying to "Bill is lsted on the..."
Better quark than quack
00:17:34 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Reacted to "Better quark than qu..." with
00:17:48 Heidi Ullrich, ICANN org: Welcome, All.
00:19:50 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: It was an excellent session
00:20:14 Heidi Ullrich, ICANN org: The Google docs for both ALAC statements on the draft ICANN FY25 plans as well as the draft PTI FY25 Op and Plan are in their workspaces.
00:20:22 Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org: Workspace is hyperlinked to the agenda
00:20:28 Heidi Ullrich, ICANN org: At the bottom of the page
00:21:08 Shah Rahman: Replying to "The Google docs for ..."
Its required access permission
00:24:02 iPhone Vanda Abes: Hi sorry to enter late
00:28:40 Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org: https://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/proceeding/draft-icann-fy25-plans-12-12-2023
00:30:51 Jonathan Zuck: Lordy!
00:35:06 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: The latter 2 @JZ
00:35:58 Alfredo Calderon - VSIG: @JZ, some of us pay close attention what ties in directly to At-Large and end-users impacted.
00:36:13 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Indeed @Alfredo Calderon - VSIG
00:36:34 Shah Rahman: Replying to "Indeed @Alfredo Cald..."
I suppose that we may follow
00:37:35 Alfredo Calderon: @JZ, in some cases we comment on the lack of clarity in some sections between the activity and the budget assigned.
00:37:56 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Reacted to "@JZ, in some cases w..." with
00:39:07 Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org: Hand up by Cheryl
00:39:41 mmoll: We will also want to focus on the geopolitical section esp. (for me) the work ICANN is planning around WSIS+20
00:39:53 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Replying to "We will also want to..."
VERY Much SO
00:41:05 mmoll: The webinar yesterday was reallygood. Recommend that to everyone
00:41:26 Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org: Here are the links to the FY25 Operating Plan & Budget webinars
Session 2 Dec 13 17:00 UTC: Dec 13 17:00 UTC Session Recording\
00:41:36 Shah Rahman: Replying to "The webinar yesterda..."
is that recod linked with this wiki page
00:41:45 mmoll: Activitly based reporting, as they call it, is a new way of seeing how the money is spent
00:41:50 Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org: https://icann.zoom.us/rec/share/-KhC2kazMaSdS47ZAEsROggAoXiM_33BjUE4sdXJPePNSSjCehpUjjoV4_EOC9Zy.qL0quCdcJ4FSP_Bh%20%20Passcode:%20tf1R#LBrfi
00:42:03 Jonathan Zuck: Sounds like a good way to operate
00:42:13 Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org: Session 1 Dec 13 1:00 UTC: https://icann.zoom.us/rec/share/ppV4uA60j4-tCjqr7RmxP3z4Z1qbBs86IBwJT7tXos92YuRxD_M1vBAbXpPUBMg.NqGFqrHnxmLOpBGi%20%20Passcode:%20g5%25HMp$7+3
00:42:29 Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org: There is additional content on our wiki: https://community.icann.org/display/projfinadhocws/FY25+Operating+Plan+and+Budget
00:43:18 Jonathan Zuck: Replying to "https://icann.zoom.u..."
Looking for a password?
00:43:47 mmoll: Another new thing this year is the oppertunity to see funding as this will be the replacement for the ABR
00:43:51 Jonathan Zuck: Agree, @Cheryl Langdon-Orr
00:43:59 mmoll: sorry -- seek funding
00:44:44 Jonathan Zuck: They’re asking for passwords
00:44:49 Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org: Yes will add them
00:45:36 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Replying to "Yes will add them"
Thx they are a great resource *especially* for those of us who have not been entrenched in all this for years
00:45:57 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: I suggest a simple Google form poll to go out for a few days
00:46:22 Heidi Ullrich, ICANN org: Proposed timeline of both Public comments: Draft Statement: 31 Jan 2024
Final Statement: 02 Feb 2024
ALAC Vote: 05 Feb 2024 - 09 Feb 2024
00:46:29 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: It could go out today or tomorrow and have results FOR the ALAC call
00:47:38 Shah Rahman: Reacted to "It could go out toda..." with
00:47:38 Jonathan Zuck: Yes, that sounds right. Especially, since the ALAC will have had the op to vote before the meeting
00:48:02 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Replying to "Yes, that sounds rig..."
you can make it so @Jonathan Zuck
00:48:10 Heidi Ullrich, ICANN org: Noted, Ricardo.
00:48:37 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Replying to "Yes, that sounds rig..."
poll could be as wide as you choose of course byt at leats the ALAC and RALO LTs
00:48:40 Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org: AI: Poll to be sent from Dec 14 COB until before the ALAC meeting
00:48:57 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Replying to "Yes, that sounds rig..."
last time several RALOs also polled within their RALOs FYI
00:49:24 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Replying to "Yes, that sounds rig..."
that could be separate or following of course
00:49:35 Heidi Ullrich, ICANN org: Poll to be sent to ALAC members and RALO leaders.
00:49:39 Heidi Ullrich, ICANN org: Welcome, Shayna!
00:49:56 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Welcome to our space Shayna :_)
00:50:29 Bukola Oronti: Welcome Shayna
00:50:33 Emmanuel MFITUMUKIZA: Welcome Shayna
00:50:42 Shah Rahman: Welcome Shayna
00:57:16 Jonathan Zuck: Yeah, folks are just a little worried about the precedent
00:57:17 Alfredo Calderon: @Shayna Robinson - ICANN Org on slide # 8 it is not clear if the applicant has to be part of one the ICANN communities (ACs/SOs) or a “reputable” recognition in the ICANN ecosystem.
00:58:31 Ricardo Holmquist: sorry, the numbers you said are not the same that are on the scren
00:58:59 Ricardo Holmquist: yes
01:00:14 Lavish Mawuena Mensah: @Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org can you kindly share a link to the document being looked at?
01:00:49 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Charitable in Nature or a Registered Charity may be very different in some jurisdictions
01:01:13 Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org: @Lavish Mawuena Mensah - this powerpoint is on the wiki agenda page on agenda item #4 at https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/2023-12-14+Operations%2C+Finance+and+Budget+Working+Group+%28OFB-WG%29+Call
01:01:21 Lavish Mawuena Mensah: Reacted to "@Lavish Mawuena Me..." with
01:01:21 Shah Rahman: and grat are only applicable for non-profit ?
01:01:24 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: That is going to need a LOT of explanation for applicants
01:01:32 Alfredo Calderon: Yes @Shayna Robinson - ICANN Org and it might involve an additional cost to receive the funds.
01:01:41 Jonathan Zuck: My old group, ACT, is an Association sans but lucratif in Belgium
01:01:45 mmoll: charitable and non-profit -- different things in Canada
01:02:05 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Replying to "charitable and non-p..."
different inn many jurisdiction
01:02:46 Alfredo Calderon: Including audited by certified accountants.
01:03:12 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Replying to "charitable and non-p..."
and in some jurisdictions neither may apply thus the 'equivalence' test (and understanding its paramenters) is essential to understand
01:03:56 mmoll: It is a high bar for a lot of non-profits -- audits are quite expensive
01:04:33 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Shayna's ISOC Global Grant program experience will be invaluable in all this of course
01:04:58 Alfredo Calderon: Reacted to "Shayna's ISOC Global..." with
01:05:05 Shah Rahman: Reacted to "Shayna's ISOC Global..." with
01:07:31 Adebunmi AKINBO: Adebunmi Akinbo
DNS Africa Media and Communications.
akinbo@dnsafrica.org
Apologies. Late landing.
01:08:08 Silvia Vivanco - ICANN Org: Yes slide and wiki are hyperlinked to today’s agenda
01:08:11 avri doria: Already plugging it, firm dates will help in doing that as they need the AGB and then need to assign staff &c to do the application.
01:08:22 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Reacted to "Already plugging it,..." with
01:09:03 avri doria: And I know the Reconsideration could really ruin a good schedule.
01:09:05 Sandra Rodriguez El Salvador: Reacted to Shayna's ISOC Global... with "
01:09:29 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Replying to "And I know the Recon..."
indeed!
01:11:35 Jonathan Zuck: Thanks!
01:12:10 Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org: Time check - 3 minutes left
01:12:46 Jonathan Zuck: I wonder if Jeff Neumann and I could get a nonprofit to apply for a grant to develop ICANN: The Musical…
01:12:55 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Reacted to "I wonder if Jeff Neu..." with
01:12:58 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Reacted to "I wonder if Jeff Neu..." with
01:13:00 Shah Rahman: hope the guide book will make us all clear
01:13:06 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Reacted to "I wonder if Jeff Neu..." with
01:13:10 Lavish Mawuena Mensah: Replying to "Time check - 3 min..."
whoa.. time flies...
01:13:32 Jonathan Zuck: Reacted to "I wonder if Jeff Neu..." with
01:13:41 Lavish Mawuena Mensah: Reacted to "hope the guide boo..." with
01:13:50 Faheem Soomro: Reacted to "I wonder if Jeff Neu…" with
01:14:10 Marita Moll: That's one working group I have not worked on -- hence the question
01:14:25 Adebunmi AKINBO: Reacted to I wonder if Jeff Neu... with "
01:14:35 Marita Moll: Thanks
01:15:06 Lavish Mawuena Mensah: Replying to "Adebunmi Akinbo
DN..."
this might help, the powerpoint is on the wiki agenda page on agenda item #4 at https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/2023-12-14+Operations%2C+Finance+and+Budget+Working+Group+%28OFB-WG%29+Call
01:17:06 Shah Rahman: Thanks for you Nice presentation, Shayna
01:17:23 Heidi Ullrich, ICANN org: Thanks, Shayna.
01:17:41 Lavish Mawuena Mensah: Reacted to "Thanks for you Nic..." with
01:17:55 Shayna Robinson - ICANN Org: Thank you very much for having me.
01:18:06 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Bye for now then
01:18:34 Marita Moll: hope you feel better soon @CLO
01:18:35 Faheem Soomro: Thank You everyone.
01:18:36 Pari Esfandiari: Thanks everyone.
01:18:37 Lavish Mawuena Mensah: Thank you and bye to all...
01:18:39 Heidi Ullrich, ICANN org: Thanks, All.
01:18:48 Shah Rahman: Thank you all
01:18:48 Marita Moll: bye
01:18:51 Alfredo Calderon: Bye to all!
