Terri Agnew:Welcome to the At-Large Social Media Working Group Call on Tuesday, 13 December 2016 at 15:00 UTC
Terri Agnew:agenda wiki page: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_9JvDAw&d=DgIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=WU-KXo8_FZUHKYFYBae0C-NNf3vXWi9wD_VJumnVN_Q&s=qgNemuQJFOL51Ae7uHMWdgapVoePBeB-g5ZAO_zxzD4&e=
John Laprise:np
John Laprise::)
Glenn McKnight:hi
Glenn McKnight:just finishing
Prateek Pathak:Hello everyone!
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:been playing with Adobe Spark - it looks to be a useful tool for backgrounds
Javier Rua-Jovet (ALAC):Hello to all!
Glenn McKnight:hi all
Javier Rua-Jovet (ALAC):Muted.
Glenn McKnight:muted too
Glenn McKnight:i sent to the list my twitter and flickr analytics of the IGF Mexico
Glenn McKnight:I wonder how many of the atlarge tweeted?
Glenn McKnight:We had a large group. I didn't see much in the SKYPE
Glenn McKnight:we didn;t have a booth at iGF
Javier Rua-Jovet (ALAC):All: I got to leave meeting in about :45 mins, so my apologies.
Glenn McKnight:@javier thanks for coming
Javier Rua-Jovet (ALAC):Welcome!
Glenn McKnight:@javier i have a really neat social media mailcard from the Canadian government i got on the plane from Mexico. II will scan and send it to you for our NARALO GA
Javier Rua-Jovet (ALAC):Cool!
Terri Agnew:Welcome Olivier Crepin-Leblond and Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong
Glenn McKnight:Is this ATLARGE or ICANN metrics
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Atlarge
Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong:Thanks Terri
Glenn McKnight:do we have an idea who is tweeting per RALO
Glenn McKnight:who gets it and who doesn't
Glenn McKnight:@john i have your on our next Naralo call on the new GTLD working group. I will add you to speak about this working group
John Laprise:ty glenn
Glenn McKnight:i did both hashtags
Glenn McKnight:John was a serious twitter
Javier Rua-Jovet (ALAC):Hey I tweeted a bit too!
Javier Rua-Jovet (ALAC):hahaha
Javier Rua-Jovet (ALAC):Go NARALO!
Terri Agnew:Welcome Harold Arcos
Harold Arcos:Thanks Terri, Hi all. Apologies for late connection
Glenn McKnight:Competition is good
Glenn McKnight:hi Harold
Glenn McKnight:Thanks to Harold to helping me in photos at IGF
Javier Rua-Jovet (ALAC):I WILL FIGHT FOR THAT PRIZE !!!
Glenn McKnight:Harold has agreed to become a HUB with Diplo and hopefully a curator.
John Laprise:Good luck Javier...apparently I was #3 behind Samantha and ICANN...
Glenn McKnight:We should think of duplicating the curating idea of DIPLO which is a 400 word summary report on sessions.
Harold Arcos:Hi @Glenn
Glenn McKnight:I am blushing
John Laprise:Storify good exchanges
John Laprise:We didn't have a tweetup...
Glenn McKnight:John perhaps we can discuss this for the NARALO GA
Javier Rua-Jovet (ALAC):Whoa!!! I said Fight! (Might lose, but will die fighting)!
John Laprise:+1
John Laprise:+1 Olivier: Tweets are like Haiku
Glenn McKnight:I still don't see any strategy to get other RALO members involvement
Glenn McKnight:It would be nice to see a chart of which members tweeted per ralo
Glenn McKnight:Remember the Atlarge review report made fun of our lack of use of social media
Glenn McKnight:Its a big secret
Javier Rua-Jovet (ALAC):Agree with John L
Ariel Liang:@John, yes this has been done :) I'm using tweetdeck to follow our At-Large members on twitter and RT
John Laprise::)
John Laprise:Livetweeting is definitely an art
Javier Rua-Jovet (ALAC):I always do images.
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Indeed it is an art requiring practice
John Laprise:I do pictures as much as is convenient
John Laprise:Ariel: How many multilingual tweets do we have?
Glenn McKnight:@john you are a master at the tweet,
Glenn McKnight:who was speaking?
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:that was javier
Javier Rua-Jovet (ALAC):Sory It was me
Glenn McKnight:i agree with him
John Laprise:When it comes to RT; it's essential to target people with many followers: single greatest factor in likely retweeting
Glenn McKnight:my comment is totally ignored dev
Ariel Liang:@John - we some times have volunteers (especially during ICANN meetings) that can help tweet in languages other than English, but our handle is mainly in English.
Heidi Ullrich:I don't believe this lack of using SM for policy development input is limited to At-Large.
Glenn McKnight:lost audio
John Laprise:What about at large members generally? Sebastien en Francais?
Heidi Ullrich:This is likely an issue that all AC/SO/SGs need to address in collaboration with ICANN.
Glenn McKnight:but you folks miss my point. We have no profile inside or outside ALAC, This gave people ammunication
Glenn McKnight:yes i agree
Javier Rua-Jovet (ALAC):@Ariel: Tagging in images is simple: When plaicing an image in twitter, Twitter asks under the pic "Who's in this photo?" . You click on that , and then you tag the people there with their @handles. Your usual suspect will appear automatically on a list and you can choose the or not. You can also use a search option.
Javier Rua-Jovet (ALAC):sorry typo: "Your usual suspects will appear automatically on a list and you can choose them or not"
Ariel Liang:thanks Javier! Go it
Heidi Ullrich:@John, you are correct. However, this is an issue for all AC/SOs., Not just At-Large
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:The ALAC working page on this is: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__atlarge.icann.org_advice-5Fstatements_9913&d=DgIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=WU-KXo8_FZUHKYFYBae0C-NNf3vXWi9wD_VJumnVN_Q&s=yfn-BY_jMLfSS61iUlgIJB4snO_WVEO_WynAfdDnttk&e=
Heidi Ullrich:Is this an issue that should be discussed across AC/SOs?
John Laprise::) Olivier
Glenn McKnight:I don't think we are doing this .
Heidi Ullrich:+1 Olivier
Harold Arcos:@Javier: (Your usual suspect will appear automatically...) In that list appears whom you have in your followers only, I remember.
Heidi Ullrich:good idea!
John Laprise:+1 Olivier
Glenn McKnight:Thanks Ariel for adding the action item
Javier Rua-Jovet (ALAC):Youre right @Harold I mean "MY usual suspects"
Glenn McKnight:@usual suspects are the issue. The Unusual ones need to drink the kool-aid
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:Aaah Ariel --- but this is the CLICK generation, not the CUT/PASTE :-) Too much work!
Glenn McKnight:yes, it has be KISS
Glenn McKnight:Dev what do you mean our wiki is not Mobile Friendly?
John Laprise:It is unconscionable that ICANN, an organization that (broadly speaking) administers the Internet is so behind the technological curve. We represent to the public that we are the Internet of five years ago.
John Laprise:Agreed Olivier
Glenn McKnight:@john some of have been saying this but we were ignored
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:"let's make At-Large great again"
John Laprise:LMAO
Javier Rua-Jovet (ALAC):All: I must leave call, but @ariel / @john and @everybody: count on me to help in anything you need in this WG. Bye!
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:IF you can win an election with tweets, we can do that.
Ariel Liang:I cannot keep up with you Olivier, with all your Trump references
Ariel Liang:Thanks Javier!!
Glenn McKnight:Cut and paste Evan's comment in the email thread
Glenn McKnight:It is worth reviewing what effect, for instance, posting photos and tweets from meetings have in increasing understandable public awareness of ICANN issues, what we in At-Large are doing about them, influencing opinion, attracting new people or (most importantly as it's the bylaw-mandated reason we're here) contributing to ALAC policy development and advice.
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:lol
Harold Arcos:We have a list with all twitter user in atlarge, at least several of us. We can request autorization for share that list with all at-large and follow us among us and make more easy the work for Generation CLICK (named by OCL)
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:We look backward BIG LEAGUE
John Laprise:+1 Olivier
Glenn McKnight:my response
Prateek Pathak:We do need a process in place
Glenn McKnight:We have a wake up call
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:I agree Glenn --- I admit I do not know how to tweet. I tweet mostly pictures. I do not tweet controversial positions, nor relay At-Large positions themselves.
Glenn McKnight:Me too
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:I get at most 2-3 retweets and a couple of likes
Glenn McKnight:Perhaps we need a strategy aka Johns 10 point plan
Prateek Pathak:Agreed
Harold Arcos:+1 Glenn
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:but I don't know how to make headline tweets - you know the type like: "currently reading At-Large Review --- At-Large comments are FULL OF LIES! GUARANTEED!
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond::-)
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:I bet that would get retweets....
Ariel Liang:based on what you have observed on Trump's twitter handle?
Prateek Pathak:Apart from animated graphics,is it possible to tweet short video clips?
Terri Agnew:Welcome Sarah Kiden
Sarah Kiden:I'm sorry, I am extremely late
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:yes. Trump; Kardashian; Kanye; Richard Branson (in a more positive way)
Prateek Pathak:Short video clips of important announcements or decisions
Ariel Liang:@Dev - okay sounds good
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:shock delight, inform --- make an impact with your tweet.
Glenn McKnight:fyi we are going to do a demo of MATTERMOST similar to slack
Glenn McKnight:yes skype is terrible
John Laprise:agreed
Terri Agnew:finding the line
John Laprise:google hangouts?
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:The ICANN Bad Attitude WG is a closed group, though
Ariel Liang:So is ICANN Social
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:ICANN At-Large Tallk Facebook : https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_groups_1048070428653436_&d=DgIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=WU-KXo8_FZUHKYFYBae0C-NNf3vXWi9wD_VJumnVN_Q&s=uEc9KkvPk7n6fUFEHspaCxsQNIwNGo7arZMl5oIUHDU&e=
Heidi Ullrich:Why couldn't such a page be on the At-Large FB page?
Heidi Ullrich:We see an ever increasing quantity of tools we need to check to keep 'in the loop'. This tends to reduce the amount of time volunteers have to contribute to policy making if they are needing to follow more and more lists/SM tools.
Glenn McKnight:At Diplo we do monthly updates with four or five hubs, Harold will be one in Venezula
Glenn McKnight:Geneva Internet Platform GIP Digital Watch
Heidi Ullrich:Could we try doing monthly updates on the regular At-Large FB book as a start?
Sarah Kiden:Yes, Heidi. That's a good start.
John Laprise:Heidi: Honestly I have so much content coming into me, the odds of me reading a monthly update is slim to nil
John Laprise:Agree with Glenn on content of ISOC; I was more interested in the form
Heidi Ullrich:@John, I get that. However, for those on the edges of the community, it might be useful.
Glenn McKnight:the better form is GIP
John Laprise:The question then, Heidi, is it "sticky" enough to grab someone's attention?
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:There is a Adobe Connect Social Stream Pod - https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.adobe.com_products_adobeconnect_apps_social-2Dstream.html&d=DgIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=WU-KXo8_FZUHKYFYBae0C-NNf3vXWi9wD_VJumnVN_Q&s=LSkebmSoRiPaGX2n5FPAavEO3zRWhauggLhRrKkAL9c&e= - perhaps we can incorporate this in our conference calls
Glenn McKnight:Dev can you add the two pictures i sent you?
Terri Agnew:finding line
Glenn McKnight:Dev can we show the two images I sent to Terry?
John Laprise:Dev: appreciate the idea but would like a more open/easily accessible solution
Heidi Ullrich:Perhaps we could invite ICANN SM staff to a call in the future
Ariel Liang:@Heidi - yes, would be good to pick the brain of the experts for specific questions/topics
Terri Agnew:unable to post in AC as the image was removed when it hit my email
Glenn McKnight:Sent again, the card used a social media look and feel. nice piece of literature.
Glenn McKnight:what a nice guy Dev is
Glenn McKnight:bye all
Ariel Liang:Thanks all!
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:Thanks Dev!
Prateek Pathak:Thank you all!
Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong:thanks and bye