Gisella Gruber: (1/24/2018 04:22) Welcome to the At-Large Capacity Building Webinar: “Data Protection: What do you need to know as End-Users about GDPR” on Wednesday, 24 January 2018 at 13:00 UTC
Gisella Gruber: (04:59) Reminder to mute *6 and to unmute *7
Shah Zahidur Rahman: (04:59) Hi Everyone
Alfredo Calderon: (05:01) Hello to all from Puerto Rico.
Yaovi Atohoun: (05:01) Hello everyone / Bonjour à tous
Carlos Leal (Ni): (05:01) Hi everyone how can i get the spanish audio?
Aída Noblia: (05:02) hi all
Bakary KOUYATE: (05:02) hi all
Vladimer Svanadze: (05:02) Hello All
Gisella Gruber: (05:03) @ Carlos - ADIGO dial-in number with 1738 as code or share your number and we will dial-out to you
Wale Bakare: (05:03) Hi everyone.
Alexis Anteliz / Venezuela: (05:04) Good morning, please tell us if there will be audio in Spanish by this means. Thank y
Heidi Ullrich: (05:05) Welcome!
Aziz HILALI: (05:05) Hello Evryone
Thomas Rickert, eco Internet Industry Association: (05:06) Hi all!
Alexis Anteliz / Venezuela: (05:06) Thank you I have the information, good connection. Greetings to all
Adrian Schmidt: (05:09) Adrian Schmidt from Lacombe, AB, Canada good morning!!
Alberto Soto -IIISI: (05:12) Hello, sorry for arrivin late. I can accsess to Adigo
Chokri Ben Romdhane: (05:12) Hi all
Narine Khachatryan: (05:13) Greetings, everyone!
Shah Zahidur Rahman: (05:14) Hi Everyone..!
Anna Karakhanyan: (05:16) Hi fom Armenia!
Heidi Ullrich: (05:17) Welcome, All,
Raoul Plommer [OKFI]: (05:19) Did somebody have a link to this presentation, or is there a way to download this from the AC interface?
Johnny Laureano: (05:19) Good morning everyone
DUKSH KUMAR KOONJOOBEEHARRY: (05:20) Hello from Mauritius
Gisella Gruber: (05:20) @ Raoul - this is available on the wiki page: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_wgW8B&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=Yw4UtfTAnCg79gmlUCVz98zbOhp_vqBG5aXSA9ke7Ps&s=WF9v90M5HWhUuyBVgk0kAFsSrBu45NolWPhH1vKuuKs&e=
Collin Kurre: (05:21) Thank you!
Gisella Gruber: (05:21) Good morning, afternoon, evening to all those who have joined since the start
Vanda Scartezini: (05:24) sorry to be late.
Raoul Plommer [OKFI]: (05:24) Thanks Gisella! :)
Gisella Gruber: (05:36) Abdeldjalil - es ce que vous souhaitez participer en francais?
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (05:37) EBERO -- https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_resources_pages_ebero-2D2013-2D04-2D02-2Den&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=Yw4UtfTAnCg79gmlUCVz98zbOhp_vqBG5aXSA9ke7Ps&s=ejj--Wf4VMBO-2JQVgHyCaOzNGU_QxAs3X48bmfcEpg&e=
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (05:37) Emergency Back End Registry
Wale Bakare: (05:39) Thanks, Olivier. Many participants would not have understood the meaning of EBERO acronym
Vanda Scartezini: (05:39) thansk for EBero link Olivier
Collin Kurre: (05:42) So is consent understood to be all-permitting for parties that are deemed to have legitimate interests, or would the end-user be notified and have the opportunity to revoke consent if a new party seeks to access data?
Alfredo Calderon: (05:42) @OLivier, Thanks for the site for EBERO
Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong 2: (05:44) @Gisella oui au 00235 66274284 merci
Gisella Gruber: (05:48) @ Abdeldjalil - de suite!
Collin Kurre: (05:50) Agreed, great presentation!
Alfredo Calderon: (05:51) @Thomas, a super job!
Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong 2: (05:51) @Gisella merci bien connecté
Vladimer Svanadze: (05:51) Thanks for great presentation! Good job!
Thomas Rickert, eco Internet Industry Association: (05:51) Thank you ever so much!
Shah Zahidur Rahman: (05:53) It was nice presentation,Thomas
Aziz HILALI: (05:54) Thank you Thmas!
Aziz HILALI: (05:54) Thomas
Thomas Rickert, eco Internet Industry Association: (05:55) Thanks Shah and Aziz
Vladimer Svanadze: (05:56) Thomas, is available your presentation? or if it is possible can you send us it? Thank you in advance!
Collin Kurre: (05:56) Link to pres at the bottom of this page: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_pages_viewpage.action-3FpageId-3D79431106&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=Yw4UtfTAnCg79gmlUCVz98zbOhp_vqBG5aXSA9ke7Ps&s=mPPn0Dg_WeY0ASZwwXVEm14eESzLYKvTS1pMSoc-wWk&e=
Michel TCHONANG: (05:59) Hi all, I am late, sorry
Alan Greenberg: (06:00) Need to leave for another GDPR meeting!
Gisella Gruber: (06:01) @ collin - thank you for the link
Mohammed Yousif Alhaj: (06:04) hello everyone
Mohammed Yousif Alhaj: (06:04) is it time for Q&A already ?
Gisella Gruber: (06:05) @ Mohammed - we will first have a few pop quiz questions and we will then open to questions
Mohammed Yousif Alhaj: (06:05) Ok, Thank You @Gisella
Alfredo Calderon: (06:06) Nope!
Alfredo Calderon: (06:06) Please explain.
Mohammed Yousif Alhaj: (06:06) I don't understand the difference
Mohammed Yousif Alhaj: (06:07) Thank you for expaining the difference
Alfredo Calderon: (06:08) Thin = minimum data; but what is "minimum datu uuuuired"?
Thomas Rickert, eco Internet Industry Association: (06:08) thin would be just the domain name and some technical data, no registrant data, no tech-c, no admin-c and no billing-c data
Thomas Rickert, eco Internet Industry Association: (06:09) Basically, the registry knows the domain name and the registrar and some more tech data such as nameservers, but the registry does not know the registrant and other contacts
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (06:10) The main difference between Thick & Thin WHOIS is that in THIN whois, the Registry only holds the minimum data about the registrant and the Registrar holds the rest of the information. In theTHICK whois model, the Registry holds all of the data about the registrant and displays it in WHOIS
Carlton Samuels: (06:11) That work has always been ongoing. Its called Handling WHOIS Conflicts with Local Law
Alfredo Calderon: (06:11) Thank you all for clarification on "thin versus thick".
Thomas Rickert, eco Internet Industry Association: (06:11) @Carlton, yes, but the Whois Conflicts with Local Law process only covers the disclosure part, not the collection of data (what you can collect and also other parts of the processing).
Alexis Anteliz / Venezuela: (06:12) I would like to suggest that the material is a bit more didactic, because it is aimed at end users. It has been a formidable journey so far, but I must be absent due to a matter of force majeure, I will return to it in the Wiki and in the publications of the working group. Thank you very much for this remarkable effort to build capacity. Please, excuse me. Greetings to all
Vladimer Svanadze: (06:12) Collin, thank you for link!
Collin Kurre: (06:13) no problem! :)
Eduardo Diaz: (06:14) YEs, but the process should be transparent and inclusive
Carlton Samuels: (06:14) @Thomas. That is true. The assumption always was collection was covered by 'business needs' and there was informed consent. Nothwithstanding the declarations from WP29 on violation of other principles.
Raoul Plommer [OKFI]: (06:20) What about European citizens, who are using Australian or New Zealandean services?
Chuck Gomes: (06:21) Question for Thomas: If an Australian citizen was living in Europe, would the GDPR apply?
Matthieu Camus: (06:22) @tijani: the accountability in GDPR includes that you have to document the process to efficientely erase the data at the end of usage
Matthieu Camus: (06:23) @chuck: YES
Alfredo Calderon: (06:23) Have to leave for another meeting.
Wale Bakare: (06:23) The GDPR is about individual's private data
Mohammed Yousif Alhaj: (06:26) what if the organization is located out of EU, and has customers from EU
Wale Bakare: (06:26) Thanks, Chuck for that
Matthieu Camus: (06:26) @mohammed: GDPR is applied
Vanda Scartezini: (06:27) better if can write
Matthieu Camus: (06:27) @mohammed: GDPR is applied, but only for the personal data of these specific EU customers
Wale Bakare: (06:28) Yes, Mohammed, because as long as the organization continues to process the EU citizen's data
Vladimer Svanadze: (06:29) And what about non member state of the EU, similar Georgia, where is association agreement with the EU, and neighborhood policy?
Mohammed Yousif Alhaj: (06:29) @Matthieu just wondering, how can you apply penalties on organization that is not within EU territories?
Gisella Gruber: (06:30) Please place all questions to the presenters in the Q&A pod or raise your hand to ask in person
Matthieu Camus: (06:30) @vladimer: GDPR does not directly apply to out-EU countries without EU citizens implicated, the agreements and neighborhood policy remain effective
Vladimer Svanadze: (06:31) Sorry Gisela
Vanda Scartezini: (06:31) thanks Thomas
Nigel Hickson: (06:31) Implementation of GDPR; May 25th for all EU 28; https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.eugdpr.org_&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=Yw4UtfTAnCg79gmlUCVz98zbOhp_vqBG5aXSA9ke7Ps&s=nzbgTVqqAdWlbOiQKS58KsY75pmF-dOSVWcJjlnPme4&e=
Vanda Scartezini: (06:31) this issue is so relevant that I bleieve we need another webinar to keep it up to date...
Matthieu Camus: (06:31) @mohammed: this will be a tricky case, with international laws :/
Shah Zahidur Rahman: (06:32) agree with Vanda Scartezini
Sylvia Leite: (06:32) +1
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (06:32) Ouch -- so that is very serious then. Thanks Thomas
Mohammed Yousif Alhaj: (06:32) Thank you @Matthieu
Thomas Rickert, eco Internet Industry Association: (06:33) If you want a countdown - please go to gdpr.ninja
Thomas Rickert, eco Internet Industry Association: (06:34) That is a website I set up a while ago with some basic informaiton on the Regulation
Collin Kurre: (06:34) Hi Thomas, I had a question earlier during your presentation regarding user consent: So is consent understood to be all-permitting for parties that are deemed to have legitimate interests, or would the end-user be notified and have the opportunity to revoke consent if a new party seeks to access data?
Thomas Rickert, eco Internet Industry Association: (06:35) You need to be very specific about what happens based on consent.
Thomas Rickert, eco Internet Industry Association: (06:35) It could be used to legitimize publiscaiton of the data, but revocation would also stop publication entirely, and not only for spectific requestors
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (06:36) Thanks Chuck. Good response
Collin Kurre: (06:36) Thanks for the answer!
Thomas Rickert, eco Internet Industry Association: (06:36) You are most welcome, Collin
Thomas Rickert, eco Internet Industry Association: (06:39) Let's have the cookie debate separately
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (06:40) That was a quick answer :-)
Matthieu Camus: (06:42) occasional EU-customers not protected by GDPR? ... not sure
Raoul Plommer [OKFI]: (06:42) I'm sorry but I must go very soon. This was a very good webinar, thanks for the presenters and other people anserwing questions especially!
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (06:44) WOW
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (06:45) what a response from Thomas! :-)
Mohammed Yousif Alhaj: (06:45) Thank you for all our presenters, organizers, and interpreters, It was very enriching and informative
Michel TCHONANG: (06:46) Thank all for that good work
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (06:47) cannot hear Tijani
Maureen Hilyard: (06:47) This has been a really informative session - thank you Thomas and Chuck and today's participants for their contributions and interesting questions.
Thomas Rickert, eco Internet Industry Association: (06:48) Matthieu - plesaes send me an e-mail at thomas@rickert.net, I will send you the part of GDPR with the exception for occasional EU data subjects
Heidi Ullrich: (06:50) Thank you very much for an excellent webinar!
Matthieu Camus: (06:50) @thomas: all the obligations do not apply, like documentation exemption for example... but YES any EU-customer is protected by GDPR for every business actor oriented to EU
Kristina Hakobyan: (06:51) Thank you very much for the webinar!
Thomas Rickert, eco Internet Industry Association: (06:51) ;athieu, we might be talking past each other. LEt's take it offline. I am happy to continue the conversation to e-mail.
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond: (06:51) what is the location of this Webinar?
Vanda Scartezini: (06:51) thanks Chuck and Thomas , wonderful webinar.
Alberto Soto -IIISI: (06:51) Thanks!!! Regards!!
Collin Kurre: (06:51) Thanks everyone!
Svitlana Tkachenko: (06:51) Where we can find the presentations?
Thomas Rickert, eco Internet Industry Association: (06:51) Thanks all for your interest!
Chuck Gomes: (06:51) Thanks all.
Matthieu Camus: (06:51) thank you! bye
Katarina: (06:51) Thank you very much
Aziz HILALI: (06:51) Bye and thanks
Nigel Hickson: (06:51) THANKS
Svitlana Tkachenko: (06:51) thanks
Aída Noblia: (06:52) BYE
Johnny Laureano: (06:52) bye
Anne Marie Joly: (06:52) thanks
Gisella Gruber: (06:52) Thank you all!
Yaovi Atohoun: (06:52) bye
Heidi Ullrich: (06:52) Bye, All!
