00:19:38 Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: Welcome, All.
00:20:30 Gopal Tadepalli: Greetings. - Dr. T V Gopal, Professor, Department of Computer Science and Engineering, College of Engineering, Guindy Campus, Anna University , Chennai, INDIA.
00:21:14 Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org: To follow along with the RTT: https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN [streamtext.net]
00:21:23 iPhone Vanda Abes: Hi everyone in a road during this meeting just listening
00:21:37 Hadia’s iPhone: Hello all
00:22:02 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Tis the season for Fand B
00:22:49 Dave Kissoondoyal - ICANN ALAC: Hello everyone
00:23:06 Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: Action Items: https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=250710382
00:31:38 Betty Fausta: thanks Lutz for enlightened us
00:34:16 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Yup
00:34:54 Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org: To follow along with the RTT: https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN [streamtext.net]
00:35:03 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: both on the ASP ST as well
00:35:19 Lutz Donnerhacke: I'v to leave. Have a nice Meeting ...
00:35:52 Greg Shatan: Guilty on all counts.
00:36:20 Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond: Thanks @Lutz
00:44:28 mmoll: Financial resources also?
00:45:05 mmoll: or just a list of resources for them to choose from
00:45:13 Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org: To follow along with the RTT: https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN [streamtext.net]
00:45:36 mmoll: various legal offices, accountants, etc
00:46:35 Sivasubramanian M: In CoR and in other transfer matters, if an error occurs, if here is any type of malignant transfer, the Registrars wish to limit their accountability probably due to legal complications. However, beyond such considerations, any transfer error is a "Registration" error by the Registar which ought to be recommended to be owned by the Registrar as an eroor, wilful or unintended, irrespective of whether the erorr is direct or by the Regisrar's channel
00:58:04 John McCormac - HosterStats.com: Direct payments would be open to abuse. The incubator approach is much better.
00:59:36 Marita Moll: I agree that direct financial support would be too problematic. Just wanted to test that wording
01:01:22 avri doria: it allows for more.
01:01:38 avri doria: to be figured out in the IRT?
01:02:04 Gopal Tadepalli: I am sorry for leaving the meeting now.
01:02:57 Carlton SAMUELS: In the words of that great philosopher Yogi Berra, its "de ja vu all over again". If you wade thru all the mush, the real issue is ICANN the org wants to limit it financial exposure. All they need do is say frankly how much they are willing to commit and be done.! All this "one-the-one-hand, breath, "on the other hand" is unseemly.
01:03:34 Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond: exact deja vu
01:04:23 avri doria: does not look that way to me. but you never know. if we are cynical enough we can make it come out that way.
01:04:41 Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond: at this point in time it is very vague
01:04:54 Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond: but yes - see how far it flies
01:07:53 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Only thing I see missing from the list is the ' Continued Operations Instrument ' text distributed for comment on Dec 11
01:08:09 Marita Moll: It is really important to be there when things are being written up
01:12:20 Sivasubramanian M: The incubator process and a systerm of recommended service providers might eventually lead to the creation of an application environment not unlike the healthcare system in an Insurance environment. ten years ago I have seen an insured person happy to hear that the insurance company would reimburse 80% of the cost of the $1000 prescription glasses, without having any idea that the same glasses by the same brands in their most luxurious version are a maximum of $200 full price outside the insurace environment
01:16:05 Sivasubramanian M: How are they going to assesss the merits of any appplication without getting to the string? Is there anyting like evluation of a template idea?
01:16:39 Alan Greenberg (ALAC): Sorry to be (very) late.
01:17:46 Sivasubramanian M: Invariably, the aplicant would be in situation where the string is disclosed ahead of the normal applicants. (all said for the sake of the next round new applicants)
01:19:18 Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC): Welcome Aalan
01:19:22 Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC): Alan
01:19:59 Yrjo Lansipuro: I’m sorry I have to leave
01:20:26 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Indeed @Justine Chew certainly pushed this point
01:20:58 Marita Moll: Yay, Justine
01:21:36 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: we will indeed!
01:21:58 Shah Rahman: Thank you justine
01:22:02 Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC): @Justine Chew thank you so much for this informative presentation.
01:22:14 Jim Prendergast: Excellent job Justine
01:23:05 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Reacted to "Excellent job Justin..." with
01:23:14 Carlton SAMUELS: Yes, great representation Justine
01:23:34 John McCormac - HosterStats.com: Reacted to "Excellent job Justin..." with
01:24:00 Chsristopher Wilkinson: @Marita Moll: supporting her comment. CW
01:24:12 Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: The OFB-WG call tomorrow will discuss these two budget public comments: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/2023-12-14+Operations%2C+Finance+and+Budget+Working+Group+%28OFB-WG%29+Call
01:24:55 Harold Arcos: Reacted to The OFB-WG call tomo... with "
01:25:35 Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond: Full At-Large Policy Pipeline: https://community.icann.org/display/alacpolicydev/At-Large+Policy+Advice+Development+Page
01:26:22 John McCormac - HosterStats.com: Not sure if the African DNS Market study will be published this month.
01:27:10 Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC): @John McCormac - HosterStats.com I believe it is going to be out soon
01:28:03 John McCormac - HosterStats.com: Replying to "@John McCormac - Hos..."
Hopefully, Hadia. It is a very large market and the data is difficult to obtain. The WHOIS privacy and the GDPR may have affected it.
01:28:12 Marita Moll: Thanks for that great suggestion re: holiday reading @Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
01:29:29 Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond: ICANN 78 CPWG agenda: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Meetings+-+Sunday%2C+22+October+2023
01:31:50 Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC): We need also to start discussing the At-large talking points
01:31:56 Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: The Community Forum would be a good opportunity for At-Large to present to interested community members the work of the CPWG. The Policy Forum, given its focus on policy, seems like a natural meeting to hold a CPWG meeting.
01:32:05 Justine Chew: A good practice to adopt - demonstrates the work that the At-Large Community does, and also functions as an engagement mechanism
01:32:10 Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC): Reacted to "The Community Forum ..." with
01:32:19 Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC): Reacted to "A good practice to a..." with
01:32:25 Shah Rahman: Reacted to "The Community Forum ..." with
01:32:45 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Replying to "A good practice to a..."
deffinatly
01:32:53 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Reacted to "A good practice to a..." with
01:33:02 Shah Rahman: Reacted to "A good practice to a..." with
01:33:38 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Absolutely support
01:33:40 Shah Rahman: indeed
01:33:59 Faheem Soomro: Reacted to "The Community Forum …" with
01:34:28 Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: Olivier, that likely depends on the particular meeting.
01:34:53 Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: The AGM is a good time for an intro/overview; the Policy forum might be a more focused meeting.
01:35:02 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: both strategic and forward looking section and *relevant* updates
01:35:05 Faheem Soomro: Reacted to "A good practice to a…" with
01:35:14 Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC): +1 to some strategic discussions specially in the policy meeting
01:37:08 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Yes OFB business
01:38:30 Justine Chew: No reason why we can have half CPWG and half OFB agenda in one session. We just have to be focused. Just a thought.
01:39:07 Justine Chew: Replying to "No reason why we can..."
Focused in terms of agenda.
01:41:27 Justine Chew: Replying to "No reason why we can..."
No updates, but possible just 2 topics
01:41:40 Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC): also mixing OFB and CPWG stuff could be a bit confusing
01:41:48 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Replying to "No reason why we can..."
+++ @Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
01:42:06 Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC): Different focus adreas
01:42:09 Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC): areas
01:42:47 Shah Rahman: might be different good on focused discussion
01:43:18 Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC): +1 lets have the OFB discussions when required.
01:43:22 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Also OFB business is OFB-WG business this *is* a CPWG call and YES the submission will be done and dusted @Marita Moll
01:43:26 Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: The deadline is 12 February
01:43:40 Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: And the OFB-WG will be meeting regularly ahead of that date.
01:43:45 Justine Chew: As I said it just depends on what we think is important at the ICANN79 agenda
01:44:00 Hanan Khatib: thank you all
01:44:00 Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC): Reacted to "As I said it just de..." with
01:44:03 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Indeed @Greg Shatan
01:44:04 Faheem Soomro: Reacted to "As I said it just de…" with
01:44:11 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: I thought I said that as well
01:44:23 Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: Thanks, All.
01:44:55 Carlton SAMUELS: Thanks all! Bye all.
01:48:01 Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC): @Justine Chew thank you
01:48:01 Dave Kissoondoyal - ICANN ALAC: Thanks and bye to all
01:48:28 Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC): No registration is required as Justine mentioned
01:48:36 Seun Ojedeji: Thanks and bye for now
01:48:40 Shah Rahman: Thank you all ,Bye
01:48:42 Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: Noted
01:48:43 Roberto Gaetano: bye all
01:48:43 Justine Chew: The PICs/RVCs conversation will continue up to ICANN79
01:48:50 Faheem Soomro: Thank you for this productive session.
01:48:53 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Thanks everyone... Bye for now then...
01:48:53 John McCormac - HosterStats.com: Thanks and later all.
01:48:56 Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org: Next meeting: Wednesday, 20 December at 14:00 UTC
01:48:56 Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC): Thank you all - bye for today
01:49:09 Marita Moll: thanks. bye all
01:49:19 Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC): See you next Wednesday @ 14:00 UTC
01:49:27 Bukola Oronti: Byee
01:49:28 Hadia Elminiawi (ALAC): Bye
01:49:29 Pari Esfandiari: Thanks everyone, specially Olivier
01:49:30 Hervé Hounzandji | ISOC BENIN: bye bye. thanjs
01:49:31 Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org: Bye, All
01:49:33 Cheryl Langdon-Orr: That call will again clash with an ASP
