Zoom Chat: 2021-12-16 At-Large Capacity Building WG Team Call

09:57:01 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
hello all
09:57:10 From Claudia Ruiz - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Hello all
09:57:20 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
Happy Birthday Cheryl
09:59:58 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
all suddenly very quite
10:00:02 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
phew
10:02:58 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Welcome, All.
10:03:34 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
AIs: Action Items At-Large Capacity Building WG Team Call
10:03:44 From Gisella Gruber - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Correct
10:04:34 From Gisella Gruber - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Give us 5min for the numbers
10:06:02 From Gisella Gruber - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Actual: 45 attendees (including 2x FR and 2x ES)
10:08:40 From Sandra Hoferichter, EuroDIG to Everyone:
Cheryl your audio is challenging today
10:09:05 From Gisella Gruber - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Approx 80 registered (I have NOT counted staff and interpreters)
10:09:13 From Gisella Gruber - ICANN Org to Everyone:
That is about correct ratio …
10:10:39 From Sandra Hoferichter, EuroDIG to Everyone:
Abou 55 were attending the call
10:12:57 From Melissa Peters Allgood to Everyone:
If you wish to continue with Small Talk, I have additional ideas.
10:12:58 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
I am less concerned with presentation style we need to allow for personal variations on themes (skill sets and comforts etc.,) of presenters
10:13:39 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
re JamBoards etc., we need to remember not all cultures of people are as comfortable or practiced in these agile toos=ls
10:13:52 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
tools
10:14:52 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
yes the good old communications skills basics
10:16:15 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
makes sense @Melissa
10:16:36 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
tools of the trade sure
10:16:56 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Melissa is an expert  : ) 
10:17:12 From Maureen Hilyard to Everyone:
I like Melissa's idea as a followup so that you don't lose any of the learnings that came out of this session
10:17:55 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Valid points, Cheryl.
10:20:41 From Maureen Hilyard to Everyone:
What Cheryl said is important because we are working with people who are not regular contributors to ICANN conversations. What we are trying to do is develop their skills so that they can feel confident about participating but that they do so in a way that gets their ideas across successfully
10:20:57 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
Defiantly NOT to build and reinforce steriotypes
10:21:14 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
@Sandra +1 outcomes that work for all of out At-Large
10:21:50 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
the pause and wonder why rather than viscerally react to the unexpected
10:23:08 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
yes capturing things by proxy certainly is a good tool
10:23:23 From Maureen Hilyard to Everyone:
I agree with Sandra.. there are some who like to hear their own voices - extrovert vs introvert who might have something meaningful to say but not as confident doing so
10:23:45 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
OR even time limitations make a difference
10:23:57 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
boards can be left open for a while
10:24:26 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
It also establishes minimum standards of some types of diversity
10:24:46 From Maureen Hilyard to Everyone:
I like that idea Hadia
10:25:04 From Sandra Hoferichter, EuroDIG to Everyone:
much better
10:26:38 From Maureen Hilyard to Everyone:
.. the workshops do use the diversity of our RALOs
10:27:10 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
For future intercultural workshops, perhaps other elements on the ‘culture map’ could be addressed. The small talk fits into ‘communication’. Other key factors are: 1) Persuading - how cultures approach the art of selling their ideas or views; 2) Leading - are cultures more used to hierarchical or egalitarian? 3) Deciding - are cultures used to deciding through consensus or top down?
10:27:49 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
Good list
10:28:52 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
Sound plan
10:29:41 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
We could also find some such examples
10:29:43 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Exactly, Melissa. How does all of this impact At-Large and the way it works.
10:30:19 From Maureen Hilyard to Everyone:
Good to use presenters who might contribute well within RALO meetings but not in cross-RALO sessions yet have good skills and need to be brought into a more global activity
10:30:38 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
It also might be interesting to hear how cultures work in their own regional interchanges vs in a global setting.
10:31:05 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
We all adapt (or attempt to) where we are.
10:31:07 From Maureen Hilyard to Everyone:
sounds good cheryl
10:31:19 From Melissa Peters Allgood to Everyone:
Excellent point, CLO!
10:31:43 From Maureen Hilyard to Everyone:
+1 Cheryl
10:31:46 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Could we get some details re the case studies?
10:31:56 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Perhaps a template?
10:32:11 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
Yeah! so seems my camera mic is not as good as using the wired in feature (designed for gaming ;-) of my glam Bluetooth headset
10:32:49 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
my laptop is acting like a slug as well so that might be an issue
10:33:47 From Maureen Hilyard to Everyone:
Hadia's summary could provide the basis of the next discussion
10:33:48 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Title of next session - The Art of Small Talk: Case Studies (?)
10:34:01 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
works
10:34:30 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Will this team create a template for staff to send to the presenters?
10:35:15 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
be worthwhile this needs good prep
10:35:56 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Can we please work backwards re the scheduling of the workshop and prep, etc?
10:36:32 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Keep in mind that we have some cultures that celebrate into the New Year and others that may be getting ready for New Year celebrations
10:37:43 From Maureen Hilyard to Everyone:
Can we look at a plan for workshops to give an overview of what we are working on building with regards to capacity building.. I agree with what Cheryl is saying
10:40:32 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
For future intercultural workshops, perhaps other elements on the ‘culture map’ could be addressed. The small talk fits into ‘communication’. Other key factors are: 1) Persuading - how cultures approach the art of selling their ideas or views; 2) Leading - are cultures more used to hierarchical or egalitarian? 3) Deciding - are cultures used to deciding through consensus or top down?
10:40:39 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
from Heidi earlier
10:42:11 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Correct, CLO. Very useful for ICANN’s various platforms.
10:43:01 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
I can create a 2022 series workshop
10:43:17 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
every 2nd month?
10:43:31 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Yes, Hadia. Each would need one workshop
10:43:51 From Sandra Hoferichter, EuroDIG to Everyone:
agree to seperate the topics
10:43:59 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
remember we could also mega workshop at a good point of time IN a future ICANN Meeting in 2022
10:44:11 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
so more board work etc.,
10:44:15 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Excellent idea, Cheryl.
10:44:23 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
And bring in different SOAC members.
10:44:30 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
For the practical
10:44:31 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
yup
10:45:05 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
punctuate the traditional topic sessions between these bigger soft skills works
10:46:06 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
was this not a planning with GSE though
10:46:28 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
I’m happy to go to the GSE/Org to raise the idea of case studies.
10:46:51 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
If this is a dissemination of information exercise on DNS abuse then a more Regional approach may in fact be better
10:46:53 From Maureen Hilyard to Everyone:
DNS abuse - case studies about how people realised they had been hacked and what they did about it. the DNS Abuse institute will be launching a new reporting tool next year
10:48:52 From Maureen Hilyard to Everyone:
We identify a lot of different types of abuse, but not really what they can do about it.
10:49:09 From Sandra Hoferichter, EuroDIG to Everyone:
I think DNS Abuse is not my topic and I would like to leave the call. Wish you all a good seasonal break and us all a better 2022 travel year.
10:49:38 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
Seasons Greeting Sandra have a safe and joyous time
10:49:42 From Sandra Hoferichter, EuroDIG to Everyone:
We can follow up on email for the intercultural WS.
10:49:59 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Frohe Weihnachten, Sandra!
10:50:00 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
probably kate Feb or March I suspect
10:50:01 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
@Sandra we need to discuss when is the next intercultural workshop
10:50:03 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
late
10:50:55 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
CLO, would that be the first of the year?
10:51:32 From Melissa Peters Allgood to Everyone:
I worry that is a bit soon.
10:51:55 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
I think we need go for late Feb or early March
10:51:55 From Gisella Gruber - ICANN Org to Everyone:
People will be back week 10th to be realistic!
10:52:47 From Gisella Gruber - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Week 14th Feb is third week Feb
10:55:52 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
13 or 20th Feb would work
10:56:03 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Noted.
10:56:06 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
14/21
10:56:42 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
Ahh yes that will slam it as well
10:57:24 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
15 Feb, G
10:57:51 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
All, I need to drop for another call
10:58:00 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
I’ll add the AIs after the call.
10:58:48 From Melissa Peters Allgood to Everyone:
I apologize for my visitor. She’s home from school.
10:59:16 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
Never a need to apologise for our kids
10:59:53 From Melissa Peters Allgood to Everyone:
She’s about to get her second jab so she’s anxious.
10:59:59 From Gisella Gruber - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Thursday 17 Feb 19:00 UTC
11:00:13 From Gisella Gruber - ICANN Org to Everyone:
I will check with the SO AC Support leads to avoid clashes with the other groups
11:00:50 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
Ahh tell her I am absolutely sure her bravery even for a tiny owie will make her proud once done and it's ok to be a little anxious
11:01:09 From Melissa Peters Allgood to Everyone:
Thank you, Cheryl 
11:01:16 From Gisella Gruber - ICANN Org to Everyone:
We would need an email now and then again early January - to get it on people’s radars
11:03:40 From Maureen Hilyard to Everyone:
Lots done, Hadia.. Great prep
11:03:45 From Gisella Gruber - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Once we have the title for the Workshop - we will add this to the 2022 list of CB Workshops!
11:04:42 From Sandra Hoferichter, EuroDIG to Everyone:
okay leaving now! Bye all!
11:04:46 From Gisella Gruber - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Thursday 13 January at 19:00 UTC
11:04:53 From Gisella Gruber - ICANN Org to Everyone:
We will get the invitation out before we close shop!
11:04:53 From Maureen Hilyard to Everyone:
Ill be travelling on the 13th Jan
11:05:07 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
Happy Holidays