Yesim Nazlar: (1/14/2019 17:18) Welcome to the At-Large Technology Taskforce Working Group Call taking place on Monday, 14 January 2019 at 15:30 UTC
Yesim Nazlar: (17:19) Agenda: https://community.icann.org/x/VJAWBg
Glenn McKnight: (18:22) I will be back in a few mintues
Yesim Nazlar: (18:25) Noted Glenn
Evin Erdoğdu: (18:25) Hello all, welcome.
Maureen Hilyard: (18:28) Hi all.. just on chat today.
Fotjon Kosta: (18:29) hello everyone, i wish you Happy New Year and all the best
Jahangir Hossain: (18:30) Hi all
Ricardo Holmquist: (18:30) Hi everyone, Happy new year 2019.
John Laprise (ALAC/NARALO): (18:31) Good morning all
Harold Arcos: (18:31) Hi all, Happy 2019
Silvia Vivanco: (18:31) Hello all
Glenn McKnight: (18:32) Suggestion that this be done before the start of the call
Abdulkarim Oloyede: (18:34) Hi
Heidi Ullrich: (18:36) Hi All
Heidi Ullrich: (18:36) Welcome!
Satish Babu: (18:36) Hi all
Satish Babu: (18:37) Apologies....currently in an ISOC call (with Olivier and Eduardo)
Glenn McKnight: (18:37) Welcome co chairs
Abdulkarim Oloyede: (18:37) Thank you Judith for the introduction. Am looking forward to working with you all
Harold Arcos: (18:37) Welcome co chairs!
Tracy Hackshaw: (18:38) hi
Tracy Hackshaw: (18:38) Can't speak but can type
Judith Hellerstein: (18:40) welcome tracy
Greg Shatan: (18:42) Hello all
Judith Hellerstein: (18:42) welcome glenn
Tracy Hackshaw: (18:42) Thanks Judith
Yesim Nazlar: (18:44) LACRALO Mailing List Issues: https://community.icann.org/x/z4VZAg
Judith Hellerstein: (18:44) Need to id where in ther message the error is happening
Judith Hellerstein: (18:45) some emails not translated and sent out
Judith Hellerstein: (18:45) not clear why this is happening
Glenn McKnight: (18:45) Is this an issue in oher languages?
Harold Arcos 2: (18:45) as you know I suffer that
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (18:45) https://community.icann.org/display/LACRALO/discussion-of-LACRALO-mailing-list-issues
Harold Arcos 2: (18:51) Already Dev and I talked about it. As a secretary, it is difficult not to know which message arrives or does not reach the English speaking community.
Maureen Hilyard: (18:52) @Harold.. that is an important issue
Ricardo Holmquist: (18:52) @Harold: I´m subscribed to both of them, so I can check if I receive it or not. Takes time, but so far is the only way
Silvia Vivanco: (18:53) the most critical issue is that the email is not translated
Judith Hellerstein: (18:54) Dev you are next
Harold Arcos 2: (18:54) Indeed @Maurenn, I must send double message,,No problem is my job as secretary but is uncertainty
Harold Arcos 2: (18:54) Thanks @Ricardo,,great support
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (18:56) yes
Judith Hellerstein: (18:58) Indeed. Wondering why it was designed this way. Was it before the ABR or after the ABR?
Glenn McKnight: (19:02) Was this an item flagged in the ATLARGE Review?
Harold Arcos 2: (19:02) Our Ralo is interested too....Add PT, FR
Silvia Vivanco: (19:05) The quality of the translations improved significantly
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (19:06) my call dropped
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (19:06) Concept for scaling the translation tool : https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_s_d6tlg1l8xcjo9u5_concept-2Dfor-2Dlacralo-2Dlists.png&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=QVM_1uyUAkMU450j5Xb3HllrLuxNAXfC5ARPSpGnFmw&s=ICuPyp7OwmqenWQE6VjX5sK8J3CgPfqbPMZYS3ZKmXU&e=
Yesim Nazlar: (19:07) Redialing out to you Dev
Silvia Vivanco: (19:09) @ Dev the concept you have raised is interesting
Silvia Vivanco: (19:09) the idea is not to miss emails
Carlton Samuels: (19:09) Howdy all. Joing late from another call.
Silvia Vivanco: (19:09) Welcome Carlton
Carlton Samuels: (19:11) The LACRALO Transbot is really VERY important! The lack of effective translation services is a disincentive for participation!
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (19:12) good idea heidi
Heidi Ullrich: (19:13) Yes, good point re the strategy
Carlton Samuels: (19:13) Question: This matter has been solved by both Microsoft (Skype). Was an alliance with Microsoft to acquire the capability ever explored?
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (19:17) I'll think about other ways this could be done
Mark Segall: (19:18) @Carlton - Good question. This is something we'll look into as we assess the long term approach to address this issue
Glenn McKnight: (19:18) The tools are for ALS to reach beyond the ICANN meetings for O and E
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (19:19) @Carlton - Skype does solve the speaking part -in that one to one calls can be machine interpreted - Micorosoft has also done work in machine transcription/captioning
Heidi Ullrich: (19:21) @Judith, Josh will be able to respond on the Zoom question shortly.
Heidi Ullrich: (19:21) Even if an ABR is submitted, all possibilities to grant the outcome will be considered during the internal review of ABRs.
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (19:23) https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Technology+Issues
Glenn McKnight: (19:23) For the record Marita and I proposed a Livestream account not Zoom I will share the Whitepaper comparing the two.
Glenn McKnight: (19:23) I already have a user guide to Livestream and a video series
Satish Babu: (19:24) Judith, there was a request from Justine and the CPWG, about the need for a collaborative document creation/editing platform to be used instead of Google Docs. Can we include this also under our list of tech issues?
Judith Hellerstein: (19:24) Zoom is much better because of its ability to work better in low bandwidth countries
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (19:25) https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Technology+Issues has this in detail
Judith Hellerstein: (19:25) Sure Satish
Maureen Hilyard: (19:25) +1 Judith - important consideration
Sarah Kiden: (19:26) Hi everyone, sorry I’m extremely late. Was in another meeting
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (19:26) @Satish - what's the issue with Google docs that a replacement is needed?
Satish Babu: (19:27) Several issues, but confidentiality of information was the most important (another was that Google email IDs were required)
Harold Arcos 2: (19:27) For several organizations aware of the right to privacy may not be motivated to work with tools purchased from Skype or Microsoft.
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (19:27) Well, Google IDs aren't needed to edit the document or comment
Glenn McKnight: (19:27) https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.lifehack.org_534461_7-2Dpowerful-2Dbenefits-2Dlive-2Dstreaming&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=mrDeztziKLa7gZqGADzxcnHA3QXmXYsnChWYBR4NElI&m=QVM_1uyUAkMU450j5Xb3HllrLuxNAXfC5ARPSpGnFmw&s=4wD1qc655-s8aFYA0-4-TNQKNqWmP14XyHLmWBCWkFo&e=
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (19:28) (shrug) re: confidentiality - given our work is supposed to be public - what confidentiality is being protected ?
Glenn McKnight: (19:29) I think the privacy issue is a red herring
Greg Shatan: (19:31) Agree with Glenn, the Google-as-spy privacy concern is a red herring.
Greg Shatan: (19:32) A real issue is that certain jurisdictions and participants may not be able or allowed to access Google Docs at all.
Abdulkarim Oloyede: (19:32) But they are mostly non confidental document that require multiple input
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (19:33) @greg - that mat be an issue but I don't get the confidentiality arguement
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (19:33) mat - may
Abdulkarim Oloyede: (19:34) i agree with Dav
Glenn McKnight: (19:34) Can we demonstrate how the TTF is mapped to the AT LARGE review solutions or inititaives
Greg Shatan: (19:34) I understand the policy argument. I just don’t agree with it.
Heidi Ullrich: (19:34) Please do look at the slides.
Greg Shatan: (19:34) I think it’s imaginary.
Silvia Vivanco: (19:34) We will continue discussing LACRALO mailing list on a Special purpsose call
Heidi Ullrich: (19:34) A lot of information is on them re the various issues of interest to the TTF.
Glenn McKnight: (19:34) Great Judith this is critical
Satish Babu: (19:35) Thanks Judith, and bye everyone!
Abdulkarim Oloyede: (19:35) thanks
Gordon Chillcott: (19:35) Thanks and bye for now.
Sarah Kiden: (19:35) Thank you! Bye
Tracy Hackshaw: (19:35) Bye all
Evin Erdoğdu: (19:35) Thank you all, goodbye!
Alfredo Calderon: (19:35) Thanks!
Carlton Samuels: (19:35) Thanks all
Greg Shatan: (19:35) Bye
Fotjon Kosta: (19:35) bye bye to all
Carlton Samuels: (19:35) Looking forward to LAXCRALO call
Harold Arcos: (19:35) thanks all,,,
Mark Segall: (19:35) thank you everyone
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (19:35) take care all
Judith Hellerstein: (19:35) Bye
Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong: (19:35) Bye
Judith Hellerstein: (19:36) bye all
Maureen Hilyard: (19:36) Productive meeting - Bye
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