20 August 2015 - APRALO Brainstorm Session
Agenda
Agenda
- Progress overview
- Discussion
Participants:
Participants:
Ali AlMeshal, Maureen Hilyard, Siranush Vardanyan, Cheryl Langdon Orr, Holly Raiche
Staff: Ariel Liang, Jeff Salem, Kim Carlson, Terri Agnew, Laura Bengford
Adobe Connect Chat
Kimberly Carlson:Welcome to the APRALO’s Website Brainstorm Session
Kimberly Carlson:Meeting page: https://community.icann.org/x/tMPhAg
Kimberly Carlson:Welcome Maureen
Terri Agnew:@Maureen, weird sounds are coming from your mic
Siranush Vardanyan:hi, everyone
Siranush Vardanyan:ok, Terry, noted
Ali AlMeshal:hi everyone
Siranush Vardanyan:hi, Ali and Maureen. son is sleeping, so can be in adobe only an
Ali AlMeshal:most important Siranush you don't get sleep during the call ...hahah
Maureen Hilyard:Ive had two meetings already this morning and a couple of hours sleep..I'll probably drop off :)
Siranush Vardanyan:;))) that may n
Ariel Liang:Hello all! welcome to the brainstorm session
Siranush Vardanyan:that may always happen, Ali:)))
Maureen Hilyard:Like you Cheryl... the ccNSO meeting went on for 2 hours..
Maureen Hilyard:starting at 2am for me..
Siranush Vardanyan:Maureen, you still have flu?
Maureen Hilyard:Siranush...getting over it slowly!
Siranush Vardanyan:goice is still not get
Maureen Hilyard:Im going to Wellington in NZ next week - 4 degrees - flu again???
Siranush Vardanyan:sorry, typing via phone is always a challenge;)
Maureen Hilyard:Looking good, Ariel
Cheryl Langdon-Orr ALAC - APRegional Member:The numbers change the topics at this stage do not Holly
Cheryl Langdon-Orr ALAC - APRegional Member:Yup Jeff it is a dynamic ;-)
Maureen Hilyard:We have an introduction to APRALO in our Rules of Procedure
Cheryl Langdon-Orr ALAC - APRegional Member:Yup we can quote thast Maureen
Cheryl Langdon-Orr ALAC - APRegional Member:kliteraslly as a masthead on the page
Holly Raiche:good question Maaureen
Holly Raiche:And goodd point - does it use ICANN language, or language that people use in their daily lives
Siranush Vardanyan:related to current issues or activities, apralo wiki space is constantly being updated and info is posted
Siranush Vardanyan:we can link to wiki space as well
Holly Raiche:True - it hopefully will be useful for members to easily find what they are looking for - as well as attract newbies - a hard call
Siranush Vardanyan:+1Cheryl
Maureen Hilyard:+Cheryl
Cheryl Langdon-Orr ALAC - APRegional Member:Good Jeff thanlks
Holly Raiche:Just a thought - have a clear way for users to find out what all the acronyms stand for
Siranush Vardanyan:both are important
Holly Raiche:@ Siranush +1
Maureen Hilyard:Yes Jeff.. it is a hard call when we have to address the different objectives of the RALO role - recruit and retain
Siranush Vardanyan:mous, webinars
Cheryl Langdon-Orr ALAC - APRegional Member:the theme is Celebrating not increasing Diversity
Maureen Hilyard:APAC Hub - related, CROPP -related activities
Maureen Hilyard:Yes selective - the activities have to be specifically ICANN-related
Maureen Hilyard:Partnerships with regional organisations and collaborative efforts
Ali AlMeshal:can you hear me
Cheryl Langdon-Orr ALAC - APRegional Member:Also various Regional and Sub Regionsla as well as Country based activities ike our IGF works
Cheryl Langdon-Orr ALAC - APRegional Member:I do hope so Ali
Cheryl Langdon-Orr ALAC - APRegional Member:ALSes tend to do more than has to do with ICANN but a RAL should be ICANN Core value and mission focussed
Cheryl Langdon-Orr ALAC - APRegional Member:Wow ahead of the game for once
Maureen Hilyard:The individual nature of each ALS contributes to the diversity of the views and opinions of each ALS.. so sometimes it is really interesting to see what they are doing in their own countries
Cheryl Langdon-Orr ALAC - APRegional Member:Exactly Maureen
Ali AlMeshal:+1 Maureen
Cheryl Langdon-Orr ALAC - APRegional Member:Probably with no more than a shared calander for events but the ablility to link to other RAALO activities should be as Holly outlined not much more IMO
Cheryl Langdon-Orr ALAC - APRegional Member:Yup ability to drill down to more info of other RALOS
Cheryl Langdon-Orr ALAC - APRegional Member:but that could be from the Parent ALAC page anyway ues
Ali AlMeshal:Yes a tab to Other Ralo will be great and then drop down
Maureen Hilyard:Yes.. the parent RALO page can link regional pages and activities
Ariel Liang:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FEm44uwMNdplK1TVbqTwkQhH0qUqXfGTGkKNhO-gb-k/edit?usp=sharing
Cheryl Langdon-Orr ALAC - APRegional Member::-)
Terri Agnew:Sending now
Cheryl Langdon-Orr ALAC - APRegional Member:Thx Terri
Ali AlMeshal:i was never ever confortable with Wiki
Maureen Hilyard:We have always asked for a one-stop-shop for information or somewhere where we can get the info we need..
Holly Raiche:This map is useful - any chance of a site map for RALOs on the home page for RALOs
Cheryl Langdon-Orr ALAC - APRegional Member:Yup that is a good way to go IMO Jeff
Maureen Hilyard:+1 Jeff
Maureen Hilyard:So the webite will be general information that the staff will put together from our workspaces?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr ALAC - APRegional Member:I think most of us assumed we would be dealing with just the first 4 questions in this call Ariel not doublke the amount ( assuming you did actually *want* feedback frim us on this call to the questions posed
Cheryl Langdon-Orr ALAC - APRegional Member:The ability to lonk out to the ALSes page is iumportant IMO
Siranush Vardanyan:+1Holly
Ali AlMeshal:+1 Holly
Cheryl Langdon-Orr ALAC - APRegional Member:We shoiuld use more SM
Cheryl Langdon-Orr ALAC - APRegional Member: so set it up and we wuill get it going
Cheryl Langdon-Orr ALAC - APRegional Member:The full suite of SM not just a FB page
Maureen Hilyard:+1 Cheryl
Holly Raiche:I'd say go a bit slowly - let's get the webpages right first
Siranush Vardanyan:and we have pavan in social media wg and can ask him to keep the fb page and he also twitting a lot on ap activities
Cheryl Langdon-Orr ALAC - APRegional Member:Exactly Arial
Maureen Hilyard:We are using individual FB pages for RALO pics etc.. it would be more convenient to have one site.. :)
Cheryl Langdon-Orr ALAC - APRegional Member:not so simple for OUR divers Region ;-)
Siranush Vardanyan:+1Maureen
Cheryl Langdon-Orr ALAC - APRegional Member:As I said Yes where useful
Cheryl Langdon-Orr ALAC - APRegional Member:when a great 'bable fish' app comes along sure but only worthy MT is worthwhile
Cheryl Langdon-Orr ALAC - APRegional Member:I assume we may need to meet again before go live ;-)
Ali AlMeshal:bye all
Cheryl Langdon-Orr ALAC - APRegional Member:Bye all
Cheryl Langdon-Orr ALAC - APRegional Member:Thanks everyone :-)
Ariel Liang:yes we will meet again :)
Ariel Liang:before going live
Ariel Liang:thanks all for attending
14 August 2015 - AFRALO Brainstorm Session
Agenda
Agenda
- Progress overview
- Discussion
Participants:
Participants:
EN: Tijani Ben Jemaa, Beran Gillen
FR: Aziz Hilali
Apologies:
Staff: Laura Bengford, Ariel Liang, Silvia Vivanco, Jeff Salem, Terri Agnew
Adobe Connect Chat
Terri Agnew:Welcome to the AFRALO's Website Brainstorm Session on 14 August 2015 at 17:00 UTC
Terri Agnew: At-Large Website Revamp Taskforce Workspace: https://community.icann.org/x/tMPhAg
Ariel Liang:Welcome Aziz
Aziz:Thank you Ariel
Laura Bengford:Welcome Everyone!
Laura Bengford:Yes, making it easier to post and link to the calendar.
Aziz:https://community.icann.org/display/AFRALO/AFRALO+ALSes+Spotlight
Ariel Liang:thank you for the link Aziz
Silvia Vivanco:Do you mean a link to other RALOs?
Silvia Vivanco:so they are linked
Silvia Vivanco:there may be cross-regional projects
Silvia Vivanco:maybe those could go
Terri Agnew:Welcome Beran Gillen
Silvia Vivanco:correct the GSE- LACRALO and GSE- APRALO Webinars
Terri Agnew:Lost interpreter (FR)
Silvia Vivanco:right on Ariel!
Laura Bengford:Yes, thank you.
Silvia Vivanco:we hear FR in EN
Ariel Liang:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FEm44uwMNdplK1TVbqTwkQhH0qUqXfGTGkKNhO-gb-k/edit?usp=sharing
Aziz:Good i
Aziz:dea
Silvia Vivanco:yes I was
Laura Bengford:More French speakers than English. That is key.
Silvia Vivanco:Exactly Laura, the same is in LACRALO more Spanish than EN
Silvia Vivanco:so we have 2 truly bilingual regions
Silvia Vivanco:the website must be bilingual
Laura Bengford:For the inventory of AFRALO statements, we can include a filtered view of statements on the RALO page.
Laura Bengford:Great point Aziz.
Laura Bengford:Thank you everyone!!
Silvia Vivanco:Excellent call thank you all for great feedback
12 August 2015 - LACRALO Brainstorm Session
Agenda
Agenda
- Progress overview
- Discussion
Participants:
Participants:
EN: Vanda Scartezini, Dev Anand Teelucksingh
ES: Humberto Carrasco, Alberto Soto, Juan Manuel Rojas
Staff: Laura Bengford, Ariel Liang, Jeff Salem, Terri Agnew
Adobe Connect Chat
Terri Agnew:Welcome to the LACRALO's Website Brainstorm Session on 12 August 2015 at 22:00 UTC
Terri Agnew:At-Large Website Revamp Taskforce Workspace: https://community.icann.org/x/tMPhAg
VANDA:hi Terry
Laura Bengford:Hello Everyone, welcome!
VANDA:Hola Alberto como estas?
VANDA:hi LAura,
Terri Agnew:Adobe connect is joined on English, please let me know if a dial out is needed for the Spanish Channel for audio
VANDA:hola Silvia,
Laura Bengford:Hi Vanda!!
Alberto Soto:Olá Vanda!!
VANDA:hi Ariel
Laura Bengford:Hola Alberto!
Ariel Liang:hello all
Laura Bengford:Let's hold till 3:05
Laura Bengford:Oops, 22:05 UTC
Alberto Soto:Hola a todos! Hello everyone!
Alberto Soto: Humberto is to connect now
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Hello everyone
Terri Agnew:Welcome Humberto Carrasco
Laura Bengford:Interesting, the ALS activities.
Humberto Carrasco:Hello everybody
Laura Bengford:This website, http://icannlac.org/
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:yes
Laura Bengford:Is this the GSE calendar, https://features.icann.org/events-near-you
Laura Bengford:Or the at-large google calendar on the WIKI?
Laura Bengford:Good point, we need to bring all these events and info together.
Alberto Soto:@Laura, google calendar It is an option
Laura Bengford:Thanks Alberto
Humberto Carrasco:yes Alberto
Alberto Soto:is a general option for all Ralos
Terri Agnew:Juan Manuel Rojas has joined on audio Spanish Channel
Laura Bengford:Maybe the LACRALO page on new At-Large site includes the RSS feed from ICANNLAC.org
Laura Bengford:Good idea Dev
VANDA:+ 1 Dev
Ariel Liang:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FEm44uwMNdplK1TVbqTwkQhH0qUqXfGTGkKNhO-gb-k/edit?usp=sharing
Laura Bengford:Are the LACRALO specific activites only on the WIKI or also on ICANNLAC.org?
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:lacralo specific activities are on the wiki
Laura Bengford:In general, yes but remember we will have more capabilities to have more dynamic content on the website so something to think about.
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:but would the At-Large website allow for all members to interact and put content ?
Laura Bengford:Not at launch, it will go thru the secretariat but we will have more admin capability to update content.
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:I think that's the issue - the At-Large website should start with the most relatively static content
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:and experiment gradually with dynamic content
Laura Bengford:Yes, Vanda. focus on the "Call to Action" - Join, attend event, working group etc.
Laura Bengford:Gradual is good :)
Juan Manuel Rojas:I believe that some WG inside LACRALO could manage info about our region.
Laura Bengford:ALS Directory, https://community.icann.org/display/LACRALO/LACRALO+ALSes
Juan Manuel Rojas:Yes Laura, but uploaded also in website
Laura Bengford:Yes Juan Manuel, that is what we were thinking. Maybe with a optional link to social media or activities link
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:https://community.icann.org/display/LACRALO/LACRALO+ALS+Brochure
Juan Manuel Rojas:I have too much noise to talk. So I will write my comments.
Ariel Liang:thanks Juan
Laura Bengford:QR codes on the the brochure!
Juan Manuel Rojas:But I think we need also dinamic content a news from region about ALS or ICANN o subjects related. That serves two purposes, to inform our ALS about what is happen in our region and also to newbies.
VANDA:good idea QR
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Perhaps what can happen is the latest 2 or 3 ALS social media updates that can be included with the ALS description
Laura Bengford:Could give them a template page if they don't have a website.
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:so there is a static info about each ALS and a latest activities heading which pulls from their twitter or facebook
Juan Manuel Rojas:@Dev agree, but not only Social Media content
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Re: template page - each ALS is supposed to have a website
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:its part of their accreditation as ALS
Laura Bengford:Ah, interesting. Is that a requirment?
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:yes
Juan Manuel Rojas:I another RALO there is a website exclusively about that RALO..
Juan Manuel Rojas:*in
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Re: social media In theory, yes a WG could do it - but a challenge is that which WG member can speak of all of LACRALO ; this is a challenge faced by the At-Large Social Media WG
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:perhaps the discussion of RALO specific social media accts can be discussed in the Social Media WG
Juan Manuel Rojas:@Dev, we dont need to talk about all LACRALO, we need to talk about what LACRALO does
Laura Bengford:Machine translation also depends on good English content to begin with. Using good "plain english" will help.
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:ICANN Language services and Communications are working to develop Global English Guidelines for authors
Laura Bengford:Yes Dev, exactly.
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:I was asking whether there were Global Spanish Guidelines
Laura Bengford:Light translation for formal content on the RALOs should not be a huge effort.
Juan Manuel Rojas:I can do that.. updating.. if information alreday exist
Juan Manuel Rojas:*already
Laura Bengford:Thank you everyone! Some very good insight.
Alberto Soto:Ok Ariel!
Alberto Soto:Thanks everyone!!
Juan Manuel Rojas:Thank you every one...
VANDA:thank you!
Ariel Liang:thanks all!
Juan Manuel Rojas:Gracias a la interrprete
Humberto Carrasco 2:gracias
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Take care all
07 August 2015 - NARALO Brainstorm Session
Agenda
Participants:
Glenn McKnight, Murray McKercher, Judith Hellerstein, Alan Greenberg
Apologies: None
Staff: Laura Bengford, Ariel Liang, Silvia Vivanco, Jeff Salem, Terri Agnew
Agenda
- Progress overview
- Discussion
Participants
Participants:
Glenn McKnight, Murray McKercher, Judith Hellerstein, Alan Greenberg
Apologies:
Staff: Laura Bengford, Ariel Liang, Silvia Vivanco, Jeff Salem, Terri Agnew
AGENDA:
- Progress overview
- Discussion
Adobe Connect Chat
Terri Agnew:Welcome to the NARALO's Website Brainstorm Session on Friday, 07 August 2015 at 20:00 UTC
Terri Agnew:Main Wiki Space: https://community.icann.org/x/tMPhAg
Glenn McKnight:Hi all
Glenn McKnight:mic is muted
Glenn McKnight:Just came back from garden
Glenn McKnight:I will send links
Laura Bengford:Hello Everyone!
judith hellerstein:Hi All sorry I am late
Ariel Liang:no worries
Ariel Liang:hello everyone
judith hellerstein:Is garth on the call
judith hellerstein:I just pinged him on skype
Glenn McKnight:Holy cow all NARALO people on the call
Glenn McKnight:yes
judith hellerstein:yes I see the screen
Murray McKercher:yes see screen
Glenn McKnight:Judith you are in the middle of the introductory picture. I wonder who's picture this is?
judith hellerstein:what you see my face?
Glenn McKnight:yes you in the fourth row i think
Glenn McKnight:Gunella is in the row in front of you
Glenn McKnight: Did we get these questions in advance?
Glenn McKnight:NARALO is a geographically based organization with the primary role of advocating/speaking on behalf on the non-business community,
Glenn McKnight:Speak about the concerns of the civil society
Glenn McKnight:Important issues, Net Neutrality, privacy, Internet rights, broadband issues etc with an onus on the rights of the end users
Glenn McKnight:Issues
Glenn McKnight:1. National Broadband policies
Glenn McKnight:2. Fair internet pricing to all NA residents ie. rural, first nations, far north etc is another issue
judith hellerstein:are you on the phone as well or did you want me to say them for you
Laura Bengford:Yes Glenn, topic based.
Glenn McKnight:3. Activities in region by some ALS's including Livestream educational sessions by ISOC NY, ISOC Canada symposium etc
Alan Greenberg:How do those issues relate to ICANN and its remit?
Glenn McKnight:Since I upgraded to Windows 10 I am having lots of issues with SKYPE and some of my devices
Glenn McKnight:Noise from my mic so it's muted
Glenn McKnight:Question 2 I assumed you meant what the NARALO ALS's are doing
judith hellerstein:I will wait for glenn to type
Glenn McKnight:CIRA and Open Media in addition to Citizen Lab and the Munk Centre on Global Affairs are outspoken on Bill C51, Privacy, Net Neutrality issues
Glenn McKnight:NARALO activities- We have requested to Chris and Joe to do outreach at University of Ottawa with ICANN
Glenn McKnight:We have not had this type of discussion with NARALO
Glenn McKnight:NARALO has been leaders in pushing for a First Nations Fellowship and Accessibility issues
Laura Bengford:Also think of issues that prevent you from doing work, or are difficult like engaging new volunteers.
Glenn McKnight:Challenge for NARALO is the disadvantage we have in obtaining new blood as othe RALO's do since the Fellowship program doesn't permit the US territories in the South Pacific or First Nations
Glenn McKnight:Othe r Ralos get fellows into the system
Silvia Vivanco:I think a list of issues , at least some issues which have been important for NARALO can be very useful
Glenn McKnight:If you are saying that other RALO
Glenn McKnight:one sec I am phoning in
judith hellerstein:good
Glenn McKnight:On the phone now
Ariel Liang:This is the document: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FEm44uwMNdplK1TVbqTwkQhH0qUqXfGTGkKNhO-gb-k/edit?usp=sharing
Glenn McKnight:What does the colours mean?
Laura Bengford:purple is at-large website, blue is icann web, and RALO colors
Glenn McKnight:no the colours below the headers
Glenn McKnight:ie. in Red Vice Chair
Glenn McKnight:When change happens some stuff is lost
Alan Greenberg:http://gnso.icann.org/en/about/gnso-council.htm
Alan Greenberg:https://archive.icann.org/en/committees/alac/
Laura Bengford:Understood we need to get to the "archive"
Murray McKercher:No right to be forgotten in the ICANN Archives :)
Laura Bengford:Yep :)
Glenn McKnight:The design should be compliant for mobile
Laura Bengford:We are proposing Working Groups to be in the 3rd band. We are working on a design for that now.
Glenn McKnight:I think we need a landing page for newcomers so they are navigate to things lkie WG's etc
Alan Greenberg:Not to belabour the point, but that list of current ALAC Members says at the top in the header "Please note: You are viewing archival ICANN material. Links and information may be outdated or incorrect. Visit ICANN's main website for current information."
Laura Bengford:Yes, this is the Get Involved page. It's next up on deck for us to design
Laura Bengford:I'm raising my hand for Jeff Salem
Laura Bengford:Terri, can you add Jeff Salem to the Staff attendees for the record.
Terri Agnew:I sure will
Glenn McKnight:We did a redesign for the Linux Professional Institute and we had four main categories which they self subscribed to the track that they self identified and they were taken down a path of topics dear to them
Glenn McKnight:I still don't understand why these questions were not sent in advance in a wiki for contribution
Murray McKercher:https://community.icann.org/display/digitalservices/Vision+and+Strategy
Laura Bengford:Our thinking is this listing of ALS can move to the website.
Glenn McKnight: Perhaps a geomap of the locatioins of the ALS. it reveals the gaps
Laura Bengford:Good thought Judith, we could add search filter by region/city
judith hellerstein:@glenn do you know
Glenn McKnight:do I know what?
judith hellerstein:if we have a naralo social media acocunt
Glenn McKnight:Yes we have a Facebook account but it's not very busy
Glenn McKnight:ALAC has a page
Glenn McKnight:Most websites have integration of Social media. ie. Twitter feeds etc into the site
Glenn McKnight:Seamless integration
Laura Bengford:We can have share feature.
Glenn McKnight:Judith- we have translation with Captions First
judith hellerstein:Are you talking about google translate
judith hellerstein:not yet
judith hellerstein:only english
Laura Bengford:GNSO uses Bing Translate
judith hellerstein:i think Google is better
Murray McKercher:I agree with EURALO sentiment..we have plugins, let's use those
Alan Greenberg:I've got to drop off now. Thanks all.
Laura Bengford:Thanks Alan
Murray McKercher:Thank You all , have a great weekend!
07 August 2015 - EURALO Brainstorm Session
Agenda
Participants:
Olivier Crepin-Leblond, Yuliya Morents, Wolf Ludwig, Sebastien Bachollet
Apologies: Jimmy Schulz, Sandra Hoferichter
Staff: Laura Bengford, Ariel Liang, Siliva Vivanco, Terri Agnew
- Progress overview
- Discussion
Adobe Connect Chat
Terri Agnew:Welcome to the EURALO's Website Brainstorm Session on Friday, 07 August 2015 at 16:00 UTC
Terri Agnew:Main Wiki Space: https://community.icann.org/x/tMPhAg
Wolf Ludwig:As it looks, we are still in a holiday situation here ...
Sébastien:No audio?
Sébastien:I am back
Terri Agnew:@Sebastien, let me know if a dial out is needed for audio
Wolf Ludwig:Welcome ;-)
Sébastien:thanks that OK
Wolf Ludwig:Like on our current WS, the new Website should provide all basic infos about EURALO -- but HOW it can become more inter-active or providing incentives?
Ariel Liang:that's a good point Wolf
Laura Bengford:Yes, the call to action and Get Involved are very important. Also the transition between website and WIKI. We've been thinking about it.
Wolf Ludwig:Incentives should be a key consideration!
Silvia Vivanco:Will the beta site have a "template" site for all RALOs?
Silvia Vivanco:it would be useful to see a template "landing page"
Laura Bengford:Yes agreed Olivier.
Ariel Liang:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FEm44uwMNdplK1TVbqTwkQhH0qUqXfGTGkKNhO-gb-k/edit?usp=sharing
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:the hierarchy in the gray bo is where the documents are and this can apparently be arranged. It just takes time to rearrange it
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:what Ariel is showing on the screen now is *exactly* the correct hierarchy. In fact I think some other RALOs already have this hierarchy
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:note 1 G in EuroDIG not EURODigg :-)
Ariel Liang:okay gotcha EuroDig
Laura Bengford:The WIKI cleanup may naturally fall after the website is build out.
Laura Bengford:The other consideration for what moves to the website is who updates
Laura Bengford:the content. Currently staff updates website whereas community can update content on the WIKI. For phase 1 staff will continue to update website.
Wolf Ludwig:The correct / official writing is EuroDIG ;-)
Laura Bengford:We should try for phase 2 to encourage community to update content to be authored especially for RALO newsletters, events, etc.
Ariel Liang:got it thanks Wolf :)
Ariel Liang:we know re the ring :)
Laura Bengford:LOL
Wolf Ludwig:IMO -- this should be a small AND reliable team!
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:perhaps have an intern that will spend time updating pages?
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:tha tintern can do this across all of the RALOs too!
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:because I think that so much is going on across RALOs - thre needs to be a full time point person for this to coordinate
Laura Bengford:Yay, Olivier
Sébastien:Thanks
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:thanks! looking forward to see results in the future!
27 April 2015
Agenda
- Welcome and Roll Call: 1 min
- Status Update: 14 min
- Show & Tell: 35 min
- Taxonomy: 20 min
- Web & Wiki Strategy for Policy Advice: 3 min
- Questions & What We Need Help With: 15 min
- Webinar Planning: 2 min
Adobe Connect Chat
Terri Agnew:Dear all, Welcome to the At-Large Website Revamp Taskforce call on Monday, 27 April 2015 at 17:00 UTC
Terri Agnew:main workspace: https://community.icann.org/x/tMPhAg
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Hello All
Ali AlMeshal:hi I manage to get in
Heidi Ullrich:Welcome, All
Laura Bengford:Welcome Everyone!
Heidi Ullrich:Welcome, Jeff!
Jeff Salem:Thanks Heidi!
Ariel Liang:https://community.icann.org/x/5wAdAw
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I like the alignment with Rec 26
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Indeed, good to see the alignment re: Rec 26
Ariel Liang:https://community.icann.org/x/tMPhAg
Heidi Ullrich:Sorry, Olivier. I had my full screen on so didn't see anyone with their hands raised !
Olivier Crepin-Leblond::-) I think of things too hard and then you say them :-)
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:hearing me?
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:np - agree with Alan
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:go ahead
Heidi Ullrich:Could you write your question?
Ariel Liang:Homepage: https://new-atlarge.herokuapp.com/
Heidi Ullrich:Thanks for putting the At-Large logo on the site
Laura Bengford:Yes Olivier. WIKI is the working space, web is the final result. While we build out the website, we may find there are efficiencies that we might want to consider though.
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:excellent
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:in UK during rush hour we probably revert back to 1/2 G :-)
Heidi Ullrich:Will the status bar have the same color and just fill the boxes in as each step is completed?
Heidi Ullrich:Super interviews! Very professional :)
Heidi Ullrich:Great, Ariel. re videos
Laura Bengford:Yes, we will have space for the videos as they are available. we can also easily switch them out if they get stale.
Alan Greenberg:Same concern as before. Pulling new articles from ICANN.org sounds like another task for at-large staff...
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:There should be some indication that the links on "Latest News and Media" will be going to ICANN.org
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:@Alan, if the ICANN articles are tagged, then it could be a automatic process - show only articles/news tagged "new gTLD" or "IDN" etc
Alan Greenberg:@Dev, yes, certainly possible. Question is whether that will be the case! (yes, sometimes I am a cynic!)
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Hmm, so the "News" followed by a number refers to the number of pages about the topic ?
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Not sure what's the value of the number for the News
Laura Bengford:Dev, yes News could be a link to News topics on icann.org for example. Not sure if we can get an exact number here.
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:maybe, show latest 5 links under news for each topic
Laura Bengford:Alan, good point the number may not represent the importance of the topic
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:because I'm not seeing the value of showing the numbers
Laura Bengford:Olivier, We will clean up and make consistent
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:@Laura: thanks!
Ariel Liang:https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Taxonomy
Ali AlMeshal:sorry I have to leave driving back home and Internet is not stable
Laura Bengford:Thank you for joining Ali!
Terri Agnew:goodbye Ali
Heidi Ullrich:Thanks, Jeff. That makes sense
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:a common taxonomy across all the AC/SOs is good
Laura Bengford:Thanks Jeff. We will also be able to leverage the topic tags from Public Comment, News, Subscriptions etc.
Laura Bengford:This list Ariel is showing is from icann.org Public Comment.
Laura Bengford:Then we tried to categorize them in to Broader topics.
Laura Bengford:Alan, good point. There are a few categories of advice.
Laura Bengford:Would anyone object to skipping 5. Web and Wiki Strategy and jumping to 6 Questions?
Laura Bengford:in interest of time.
Laura Bengford:Thanks Alan. We will definitely have the dash there.
Laura Bengford:Have good practices on URL space management helps us be more efficient and organized.
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:So "at-large", "atlarge" and "alac"
Heidi Ullrich:Is using At-Large consistent? ALAC is the actual AC, correct?
Laura Bengford:Need to resolve ALAC.icann.org and At-Large.icann.org. Thanks Olivier.
Heidi Ullrich:so, GNSO, ccNSO, GAC, SSAC, ALAC...
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:perhaps get members of the Capacity Building WG involved ?
Laura Bengford:Ah, good idea Dev!
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Capacity+Building+Working+Group
Laura Bengford:Thanks!
Heidi Ullrich:We can do a show and tell in BA
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Indeed, do an update at BA
Heidi Ullrich:Thanks so much All Great work!!!
Laura Bengford:Maybe we can have an interactive demo space at BA meeting or in the newcomer booth or something.
Transcript
18 December 2014
Agenda
- Share progress, feedback we heard, and new home page mockups with colors (mockup 1, mockup 2) (15min)
- Discuss a list of questions to solicit specific feedback (40min)
- Brainstorm ideas on visualizing the Policy Advice Development activities (pie chart, bar graph) (10min)
- Share Topic Page content ideas from Ariel (e.g. WHOIS) (20min)
- Next Steps (5min)
Adobe Connect Chat
Terri Agnew:Dear all, Welcome to the At-Large Website Revamp Taskforce call on Thursday, 18 December 2014 at 22:00 UTC
Terri Agnew:meeting page: https://community.icann.org/x/tMPhAg
Alan Greenberg:I am dialing in
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:dialing in
Ariel Liang:can you guys see my screen? just checking
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:yes
Ariel Liang:kewl
Ariel Liang:Our guidance principles for categorizing our content & organizing the homepage: http://goo.gl/UYI59X
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:link doesn't work
Heidi Ullrich:Cheryl or Anthony would have more info on the font style and colors
Heidi Ullrich:I would like to see the banner at the top and teh search at the bottom right
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Newest Mockup is best as far as I'm concerned
Heidi Ullrich:cutting off the photo is visually disturbing
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:I agree the title banner at the top
Laura Bengford:Okay thanks for the feedback. Top it is.
Heidi Ullrich:I agree with Dev.
Heidi Ullrich:What about Capacity Buiilding and Inreach?
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:This is the main page?
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:If so, then there needs a introductory section
Heidi Ullrich:@Dev, regional activities could be the ALS activities in the regions
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Well isn't that upcoming events
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:?
Heidi Ullrich:Upcoming events and Outreach?
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:agree with the text looking small
Laura Bengford:Ariel, do you want to share the definitions for capacity building?
Alan Greenberg:The description of the meeting says 90 minutes, but it was put into my calendar as being just 60 monutes.
Alan Greenberg:minutes
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:probably a one/two liner under each heading
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:or short paragraph to introduce the section
Heidi Ullrich:Training ?
Heidi Ullrich:Want to Learn More?
Alan Greenberg:I feel like I should be part of the movie Grumpy Old Men.
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Free Resources to Learn More
Laura Bengford:No worries Alan ;)
Laura Bengford:Learn More is better agreed Dev
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I'm happy with the footer
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Content of footer - text still looks too small
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:sry content of footer is good
Heidi Ullrich:Could we add a link for "welcome Aboard" or "onboarding' for ALSes
Heidi Ullrich:also, a link to the Leadership Training program and ICANN academy?
Laura Bengford:Yes, that is good idea Heidi
Laura Bengford:Yes, we can use logos for social media. with ability to share within a page.
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:that would be ok, once the images are accessible (ALT text)
Laura Bengford:we have gotten feedback to move social media to top, that is more general practice
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:having the social media buttons to top would be ok too
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:also the top lanaguage bar can be truncated so that it starts mid page
Heidi Ullrich:Or adding it to the left of the We are the At-Large Community
Heidi Ullrich:good idea, Dev
Heidi Ullrich:Actually, the At-Large logo has the text as part of it
Heidi Ullrich:I would like to see if we can keep the logo with the text at the bottom and move the top blue strip to the right
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:I think that could work
Heidi Ullrich:I will need to step away now
Laura Bengford:Thanks Heidi
Heidi Ullrich:where did you get that text, Ariel?
Heidi Ullrich:that Alan mentioned
Alan Greenberg:Can I step away too?
Heidi Ullrich:We are looking for your feedback both on look and content of these types of pages
Heidi Ullrich:I'd like to see the At-Large WHOIS WG a bit more prominent
Laura Bengford:This topic page and content will provide background and context to the policy advice statements on the page mock Ariel shared. Background, Why is it Important, Latest News...
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I really like the rest of the text that's on the screen
Laura Bengford:That's right Alan, we will need help with this starter content.
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:yes, like the ICANN.org
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Indeed re: accessibility
Laura Bengford:We are looking at accessibility assessment for all websites, guidelines, best practices
Laura Bengford:W3C (WCAG) level AA is what we are shooting for
Alan Greenberg:I really have to leave now. Thanks for all the hard work (even if my comments don't always show my gratitude).
Laura Bengford:Thank you very much Alan. Your feedback is great :)
Heidi Ullrich:Thanks, All
Heidi Ullrich:These videos will be placed on the pages of keyp policy
Heidi Ullrich:that was a suggestion of The comms team to grab people with visual learning
Heidi Ullrich:I need to drop off as well now
Heidi Ullrich:Thanks all for your work on this!
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Visually, a vertical timeline to show the history of WHOIS
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:like http://codyhouse.co/demo/vertical-timeline/
Laura Bengford:that's cool Dev
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:and the structure is very simple
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:the article describing how its done: http://codyhouse.co/gem/vertical-timeline/
Laura Bengford:Thanks Dev. I'll have a look.
Laura Bengford:Happy Holidays and thanks everyone !
24 November 2014
Adobe Connect Chat
Terri Agnew: Dear all, welcome to the meeting with Jim, Jana ,Heidi, and Ariel on Monday 24 November 2014 at 18:00 UTC
Ariel Liang: atlarge.icann.org
Ariel Liang: http://www.atlarge.icann.org/correspondence
06 November 2014
Agenda
- Provide feedback on the ICANN 51 website revamp presentation & review community input (10min)
- Review the wireframes of 'What We Do,' 'Get Involved,' and the general content pages (30min)
- Identify potential gaps in wireframes (10min)
- Discuss the next phase: Brainstorm content development strategy (35min)
- AOB (5min)
Adobe Connect Chat
Terri Agnew:Welcome to the Website Revamp Project on Thursday, 06th November at 20:00 UTC
Heidi Ullrich:Do we need more time for item 3?
Heidi Ullrich:@Steve, to what extent are we able to revise the wireframes with the current vendor/current b udget?
Ariel Liang:Stie maps & wireframes: https://community.icann.org/x/zCXxAg
Ariel Liang:welcome Laura
Alan Greenberg:The issue of info being statis with long times since the last activity is that it will give the impression that we are not doing anything.
Alan Greenberg:These new pages are good.
Heidi Ullrich:The current content needs polishing
Laura Bengford:@Heidi, we will be able to update wireframes
Heidi Ullrich:I'm not being critical :) I'm being constructive !
Laura Bengford:This is really good feedback
Heidi Ullrich:Are the colors on the map the population?
Ariel Liang:Colors come next
Heidi Ullrich:perhaps the regions could be identified by color
Ariel Liang:Vendor is working on the Style guide
Heidi Ullrich:so blue for EURALO?
Ariel Liang:we will surely consider using the RALO colors
Alan Greenberg:Not sure that "consider" is sufficient.
Heidi Ullrich:Would the intern only shepherd the process of getting the content or actually prepare the content?
Alan Greenberg:In my mind, actually write. We need someone with technical background and a journalism student or something like that.
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I agree with Alan
Alan Greenberg:There are lots of really good technical writers around. Problem is that they earn a lot of money doing it.
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:apologies for missing this meeting - a previous meeting went way overdue - I'll review the recording and/or slides for comment
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:does Dev have any question regarding the wire ramen?
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:not yet
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:I'll review them later and offer comment - yes thanks
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:auto correct on iPad turns. frames to ramen :-)
Laura Bengford:thank you everyone.
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:bye all
06 October 2014
Adobe Connect Chat
Terri Agnew:Welcome to the Website Revamp Project on Monday, 06th October at 20:30 UTC
Heidi Ullrich:Hi All
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:darn - droppped
Terri Agnew:@Dev, Adigo is dialing back out to you
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:thanks
Heidi Ullrich:Could Community be "At-Large Community"?
Heidi Ullrich:on first glance, it looks great!
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:back
Terri Agnew:Dev is back on audio
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Indeed - visually, irrespective of the IA
Heidi Ullrich:Would like to see the Policy activities more prevalent
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:I like search in front and center
Heidi Ullrich:+1 for the newcomers
Heidi Ullrich:How do people quickly get to the Policy development page?
Anthony Niiganii (MBE):How much work would it be to add a increase or contract font size function?
Anthony Niiganii (MBE):contrast
Heidi Ullrich:Apart from the numbers, how do people see the actual policy statements? Same with the Webinars, Beginner's Guides, Podcasts and Online courses..It seems like the numbers are emphaized rather than the actaul work.
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:the Outreach, Capacity sub headings probably could be increased in size
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:@Anthony - wouldn't the zoom (Ctrl + / Ctrl - ) work
Anthony Niiganii (MBE):yes that's true, not always the case for those with visual impairment and screen readers
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:maybe a tab group could be done for the policy pipeline
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:usually one can zoom in & out like Dev says
Anthony Niiganii (MBE):sometimes the zoom bunches all the text together and becomes readable
Anthony Niiganii (MBE):home looks great
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:a simple example of tab groups http://blixt.org/media/a/1/tabs-hover/page3.html
Heidi Ullrich:homepage looks great, indeed.
Anthony Niiganii (MBE):other than the text size function, it looks good so far.
Heidi Ullrich:We might need to see if the Capacity Building Webinars could be put under ICANN LEARN
Heidi Ullrich:and then a link to ICANN LEARN is put on the homepage...
Heidi Ullrich:could discuss this in LA...
Heidi Ullrich:In fact, the all of those four activities could be on ICANN LEARN
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Also, thinking the events/calendar needs under At-Large work
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:** Reminder in 15 minutes **: Pre ICANN 51 Briefing WebinarThe agenda and call details are available at: https://community.icann.org/x/vRbxAgAdobe Connect: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/atlarge-briefing-session/
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:well, then the badge could be displayed indicating the number of announcements
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:http://getbootstrap.com/components/#badges
Anthony Niiganii (MBE):I have to step away from the meeting, just informed I have a pipe leaking in my basement and need to go get that fixed right away. Talk to you all later. The site is starting to look great.
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:maybe a word cloud
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:could also be used
Heidi Ullrich:Good luck, Anthony!!
Heidi Ullrich:So this is automatic or will Ariel need to update this as she does the Correspondence page?
Heidi Ullrich:and these will all be available in the 6 UN?
Heidi Ullrich:@Steve, are the ICANN.org pages translated like that?
Heidi Ullrich:with Language services automatically translating them?
Heidi Ullrich:That would be ideal!
Heidi Ullrich:is that using the website tool you mentioned?
Heidi Ullrich:so whichever way, at-Large staff won't need to send the EN to be transltated?
Heidi Ullrich:Great!!
Heidi Ullrich:Could the graphic to the ALAC policy process be used?
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I'm not fond of the Z when looking at having compact policy pages
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:the Z is just explanatory
Heidi Ullrich:So under Get Involved?
Steve Allison:Under About there would be a page on How Policy Advice works
Heidi Ullrich:Also, where are the ALAC members and links to the WGs?
Heidi Ullrich:There is a need to list who the ALAC leaders are
Heidi Ullrich:Who are the members of the ALAC
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:and those from previous years as it changes every year
Heidi Ullrich:correct, Dev
Heidi Ullrich:perfect, Steve. Good location
Heidi Ullrich:if it is called "At-Large community" ;)
Heidi Ullrich:When will we be able to see the color version?
Heidi Ullrich:Sorry All, I need to drop off
Steve Allison:I dont have a date for the color version yet
Steve Allison:i will let you know when i do
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:take care all
25 September 2014
Adobe Connect Chat
Gisella Gruber:Welcome to the Website Revamp Project on Thursday 25 of September at 18:30 UTC
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Hello Gisella, Kathy, hearing me?
Kathy Schnitt:Dev I am not hearing you
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Hmm, ok....
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Good, except for lack of mic. Hearing you good
Silvia Vivanco:Hello all
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Hello everyone
Ariel Liang:This is the document
Ariel Liang:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ar_8JZbecKoFA1Hoq1J0gDpJ5mdaImAVa_6wxuVfgLc/edit#
Ariel Liang:Sorry pls try this link:
Ariel Liang:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ar_8JZbecKoFA1Hoq1J0gDpJ5mdaImAVa_6wxuVfgLc/edit?usp=sharing
Anthony Niiganii (MBE):yes
Silvia Vivanco:I will write some questions as you speak
Silvia Vivanco:not to interrupt so you can respond
Anthony Niiganii (MBE):I agree with Heidi
Silvia Vivanco:- Can community members send articles and have we envisioned an interactive section?
Ariel Liang:Please keep in mind that this is a working progress, so the structure you see right now is not final
Silvia Vivanco:or if a community member would like to put his own blog could we link it?
Silvia Vivanco:to this site?
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I agree with Heidi -- the events are actually the calendar of At-Large meetings and conference calls, isn't it? that's like 3 or 4 calls per day. That would be overwhelming if it was in a news feed. Real "news" would be lost amongst the fully of activity
Heidi Ullrich:If we spell out At-Large Strcutures, we need to spell out RALOs...
Heidi Ullrich:should Workign Groups be immed after ALAC?
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:How much of this site is Static; how much is dynamic?
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:I would say the Explore section is mostly static - the Discover section is more dynamic
Heidi Ullrich:to me Explore and Discover are very similar. What about "Become Involved" or "How to get involved?"...
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:The wording of Explore and Discover may need to change. Agree with Heidi
Silvia Vivanco:@ Heidi correct, I think Explore and Discover can be confusing
Silvia Vivanco:agree with How to get involved
Heidi Ullrich:Sorry to focus on the wording, but "make a difference" normally is where you can donate funds...
Anthony Niiganii (MBE):I think ATLAS should be added under ALAC, as it presents and opportunity of the community's voice as a whole
Heidi Ullrich:Agree with Anthony that there needs to be some area for the ATLAS and other big At-Large events
Silvia Vivanco:Just call it Newcomers area instead of Make a Difference
Silvia Vivanco:so that its consistent with ICANN 's terminology
Silvia Vivanco:will this site be connected to ICANN's site? or linked to some of the tutorials and diagrams shown in that site
Silvia Vivanco:We could connect with the ICANNN main site which has lots of diagrams and infographics
Silvia Vivanco:good point Ariel
Silvia Vivanco:we can link it to the WIKIs
Silvia Vivanco:the WIKis are interactive
Silvia Vivanco:yes! excellent
Anthony Niiganii (MBE):draw on fund development techniques: think, feel and do to engage the audience
Anthony Niiganii (MBE):thanks Steve
Anthony Niiganii (MBE):+1 Heidi
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:I'm thinking "WHO We Are" or equivalent should replace "Explore"
Silvia Vivanco:Some RALOs (APRALO) for example will engage with other ICANN groups for example APRALO-APAC HUB strategy
Silvia Vivanco:I would like to show that strategy
Silvia Vivanco:Agree with the map and compliance has a wonderful map
Anthony Niiganii (MBE):that's were sponsorship requests will come in handy
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:classifying the work under the taxonomy as discussed before
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:?
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:To me Organizational Structure isn't "WHAT We Do"
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:also, the org structure is presented top down and not bottom up
Silvia Vivanco:your approach Olivier means someone needs to constantly update the RALO section
Silvia Vivanco:@ Dev what do you mean? how to make it bottom up?
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:start with At-Large, first is ALSes
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:then RALOS
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:then ALAC
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:not from the "top" - ALAC, RALO, ALSes
Silvia Vivanco:ok so inverse the hierarchy
Silvia Vivanco:ok got it
Silvia Vivanco:very good approach Ariel
Silvia Vivanco:I like this approach you are describing
Silvia Vivanco:@ Ariel and Steve I will be happy to look at the contents of the RALO pages
Silvia Vivanco:when you are ready
Anthony Niiganii (MBE):@Olivier that not always accessible
Anthony Niiganii (MBE):any pop outs cause confusion with screen readers
Anthony Niiganii (MBE):I like the idea
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:yep +1
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:unfortunately, not all RALOs allow individuals to be recognised
Silvia Vivanco:not yet Dev
Silvia Vivanco:but the trend is that they will allow
Silvia Vivanco:individuals
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:I can think of one RALO that will resist
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Get Involved!
Silvia Vivanco:Structure is good
Anthony Niiganii (MBE):the structure is a good step forward
Ariel Liang:yes structure first
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Under WHO We Are - probably need to use a short explaination about ICANN and then point to the main ICANN website
Gisella Gruber:Please note that Olivier is travelling next week, Wednesday onwards and I am not sure about his availablity and connectivity
Gisella Gruber:And we have a heavy call schedule so if you need a call, please let me know ASAP
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Monday is exceptionally busy ;-)
Anthony Niiganii (MBE):Thank you all for being flexible and so accommodating – great meeting and excellent progress. Ekosi! Kinanaskomitinawa Anthony.
Silvia Vivanco:very good call
Ariel Liang:Thank you very much everyone! I will read through the comment in the chat as well.
Action Items
- Short descirption about policy advice development
- Ariel Liang to identify content from the beginner's guide to fill the major topical sections as placeholder in the current IA
- Explore more about the interactive map (use compliance map as example)
- Refine the wording for each section
- Explore the potential of different navigation for different audience (i.e. let audience to choose what content / page / layout they would like to view)
- Gisella Gruber Schedule a Friday call next week
19 September 2014
Adobe Chat
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:It was shown at the end of last call
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/5112175/ALAC_Policy_Advice_Chart.jpg
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Re: http://www.circleid.com/topics/ is an interesting taxonomy ideas that could be used
Heidi Ullrich:Sept. ARticles:
Heidi Ullrich:ALAC Policy Development Activities from mid-August to early-SeptemberAlan Greenberg Selected as next ALAC ChairAt-Large Community Comprises 179 At-Large StructuresSeptember Monthly At-Large RALO RoundupAt-Large Website Revamp Project Begins
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:The Policy Summary is great work, btw
Heidi Ullrich:@Ariel, I think the Policy Updates are quite clear for outsiders/newcomers.
Heidi Ullrich:I would hestitate adding a process that involves extra staff work to update this.
Heidi Ullrich:or make it more clear
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Or even Latest News
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Mailing+Lists
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:was my attempt
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Correspondence could be renamed to "Policy Advice"
Heidi Ullrich:LOL, Olivier!
Heidi Ullrich:I heard this morning that Jobs believed it was more important to sell dreams rather than products ;)
Steve Allison:let's do that
Heidi Ullrich:So, it is good to dream big!!
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:look at the line for the apple phone https://twitter.com/thomasmarkjay/status/512908074081062912/photo/1
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:;-D
Heidi Ullrich:but their shares are falling a bit - here is why : http://bgr.com/2014/09/16/why-is-apples-stock-price-falling/
Heidi Ullrich:Good idea, Steve
Heidi Ullrich:I support that
Heidi Ullrich:Could they also call into the session with you during the ICANN Meeting?
Steve Allison:yes, i will encourage them to do so
Heidi Ullrich:Thanks
Heidi Ullrich:Please send us their names once they confirm
Heidi Ullrich:and email addresses
Adobe Recording - Due to AC tech issues during call this is a partial recording
Audio recording - Full recording
18 September 2014
12 September 2014
Action Items
- Olivier Crepin-Leblond, Dev Anand Teelucksingh, Anthony Niiganii to do the following:
Could you distill the historical or current issues/topics being worked on at At-Large into a Top 5 Categories (ex: WHOIS, Privacy, IDNs, ICANN Strategic Planning, IANA Transition)? Some issues/topics may be directly associated to a large ICANN issue area such as Strategic Plan, wheres others are independent (and could be connected to many ICANN topics) such as Privacy. It’s fine if you can identify more than 5 top categories.
Meeting Notes
Discussion about the Correspondence Page
Intended Purpose of the Correspondence Page:
- To serve as an outward facing, comprehensive depository of the published work of the ALAC
- To encourage the visitors to intuitively discover the work of the ALAC
- To link to appropriate pages in the Policy Development wiki space so that it encourages visitors to get involved in the ongoing work of the ALAC
Issues about the Correspondence Page:
- Misleading title of the page — the Correspondence page mainly contains Statements and only a few announcements and emails.
- Ineffective classification for the Statements — regions and RALOs are repetitive, and there is no keyword or taxonomy to describe issues/topics.
- Poor search capability within the page and the website — this is a consequence of the ineffective classification for the Statements.
- Inconsistent formatting for some Statements, including the numbering of translated documents.
- Tendency to loose visitors’ interests:
- It takes multiple clicks to get to the Statement;
- The long-winded staff introduction section takes away the attention from the readers;
- There is no context or background about what the Statement is 'in response to’;
- It is not clear ‘why’ the readers should care about them.
- No helpful links to the At-Large wiki workspace for those Statements in the Policy Development page — otherwise, interested visitors can be directed to appropriate pages and participate in the making of the ALAC Statements.
Improvement Ideas:
- Create a taxonomy landing page that details the key issues/topics which the ALAC has been working on:
- The background materials about those issues/topics need to be clear, interesting, and relevant to the Internet end-users;
- It may be worthwhile to rewrite the policy chapters on the Beginner’s Guide;
- We need to frame the issues/topics to show the readers ‘why they should care’;
- The taxonomy landing page can effective link to the ALAC Statements that address those topics, help readers keep track of the ongoing work of the ALAC around those topics, create pre-natal discussions and facilitate ‘call to action' (e.g. to make it easier for readers to comment on the current draft Statement on those topics).
- Redesign the way to publish the ALAC Statements:
- Each published ALAC Statement should be broken out into the relevant components so readers can quickly assess what they wish to learn: context summary, summary of statement (or any other supporting documents), name and affiliation of the penholder, key dates related to the making of the Statements, related Statements, etc.
- Those components need to be arranged in a logical and effective order, with the most interesting component at the top (e.g. the ’Staff Introduction' paragraphs describing the process of the making of the ALAC Statement need to be summarized and put in a less prominent area).
- Explain the Policy Development process on the website in a clear and engaging manner:
- We need to emphasize that anyone from the community can be the penholders and anyone can comment on the draft Statements; the policy development process should be a bottom up process initiated by RALOs.
- We may need to build certain platform or mechanism on the website to help community members to participate in policy development easily. Wiki is a good platform for working on the actual Statement, but the wiki isn’t helpful in facilitating discussion around whether the ALAC should have a Statement in response to Public Comment request.
- Upgrade the search functions within the Page
- We may need to include issue/topic keywords and drill down filtering (faceted search?).
- The search capability needs to be complex enough for seasoned members to find documents.
- Although the mission Statement for the ALAC is very broad and the community members have few common denominators, we need to clearly state the ALAC mission statement, emphasize and frame the ‘end-user’ key point, and display it in an obvious place on the website. In that way, we can show how the work of the ALAC (e.g. ALAC Statement) ties to its mission.
Other Requirements:
- At-Large Staff need to have the capability to manage content on the website without going through web-admin.
- Translation requirement — it may be a future requirement to translate important static content on the website, but at a minimum, all ALAC Statements must be translated and properly archived on the site.
Adobe Chat
Kathy Schnitt: Dear all, Welcome to the Website Revamp Project on Friday 12th of September at 16:00 UTC
Kathy Schnitt:Welcome Ariel and Dev
Ariel Liang:Just FYI - everybody is here. Anthony sent his apologies
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:looks like my mic isn't working
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:on the call
Ariel Liang:http://atlarge.icann.org/correspondence
Heidi Ullrich:If a new format is being considered, perhaps the Board Resolution page might serve as a model: https://features.icann.org/resolutions
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:http://www.jquery-bootgrid.com/Examples#data
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:translations of these statements are not up to date. 2013 only yields 3 translated documents
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:this is a huge amount of translations missing. I do not know whether they were undertaken and missing from the list, or whether the translations were not done
Heidi Ullrich:Here is the note to the G8 : http://atlarge.icann.org/correspondence/correspondence-20may11-en.htm
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Here is the note to NTIA:
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:http://atlarge.icann.org/de/node/25511
Heidi Ullrich:http://atlarge.icann.org/correspondence/correspondence-14dec11-en.htm
Heidi Ullrich:that is the note to the NTIA
Heidi Ullrich:+1 Steve
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Heidi your pointer are to the US Congressman
Heidi Ullrich:we need greater searchability
Heidi Ullrich:ah, sorry
Heidi Ullrich:that was the letter I was referring to
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:also -- note that some of these summaries are wrongly formed, and the actual statement is missuing!
Heidi Ullrich::(
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I used Google to find the letters
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:wow -- the one to NTIA NOI is actually even missing. There is the Staff intro & no link to the Statement itself, apart from a link to the workspace where we built it....
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:http://www.jquery-bootgrid.com/Examples#data is an example of interactive search
Heidi Ullrich:I agree that broad topics are needed
Heidi Ullrich:Dev, Matt and you developed a page where the impact on end users was spelled out
Heidi Ullrich:@Ariel, that might be a good solution for a start
Heidi Ullrich:@Ariel, please look at the Beginner's Guide to ALAC Policy
Heidi Ullrich:It has this kind of summary text on the main topics, I believe
Heidi Ullrich:Chart: https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/5112175/ALAC_Policy_Advice_Chart.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1373387404000&api=v2
Steve Allison:Thank you
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Phone connection lost, but listening via AC audio
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Good idea
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:This was great
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Thanks everyone - take care
Ariel Liang:Thank you all!
11 September 2014
Adobe Chat
Terri Agnew:Dear all, Welcome to the Website Revamp Project on Thursday 11th of September at 16:00 UTC
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:OUCH -- that hurts!
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Bounce Rate 50/70% ???
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Ouch indeed
Anthony Niiganii (MBE):It sometimes take me awhile to find what I need and just end up jumping to Google to search
Heidi Ullrich:Will the Seasoned community members use the wiki as their primary source?
Anthony Niiganii (MBE):lol why me? lol
Ariel Liang:people like you are a primary audience
Anthony Niiganii (MBE):thanks...yea I can agree with that
Heidi Ullrich::)
Ariel Liang:@Heidi - yes, so that's why they are secondary audience
Ariel Liang:primary ones don't really know about the wiki or know how to use the wiki
Heidi Ullrich:Thanks, Ariel
Ariel Liang:so the website is a main platform for us to communicate with them
Ariel Liang:no problem
Heidi Ullrich:How are they making an impact - we could have a spotlight for that
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Well, primary ones can find the wiki if they use Google search
Heidi Ullrich:they should be using the Dashboard...
Ariel Liang:but it is not an effective landing page for the community
Ariel Liang:newcomers will get confused how to use it
Heidi Ullrich:@Ariel, I agree the dashboard is confusing for newcomers
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:agreed, a redesign is needed for wiki, the wiki needs to have a menu/section for newcomers that discover the wiki page where they can go to next
Heidi Ullrich:What is a wireframe
Ariel Liang:wireframe is similar to the structure of a website
Ariel Liang:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Website_wireframe
Heidi Ullrich:Thanks!
Heidi Ullrich:When would new content be developed? Many of the pages are out of date...
Steve Allison:we can do some of this in tandem. My hope is that during the design work, we can concept on what topics should be written at least to support the designs/wireframes so that we can present a polished product, and then over the long term we can discuss a strategy to consistently develop new content
Laura Bengford:We can also may leverage some of the Getting Started / newcomer guides from icann.org
Steve Allison:Thanks Laura. I think we're thinking the same. Some of that content is the most comprehensive for newcomers
Heidi Ullrich:Good idea, Laura
Heidi Ullrich:There is likely up to date info on the wiki as well
Laura Bengford:Maybe leverage events or the calender filtered for ALAC.
Heidi Ullrich:Thanks very much Ariel and Steve!
Anthony Niiganii (MBE):thanks Ariel and Steve
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:indeed, much food for thought
Heidi Ullrich:The Board Resolution page might be a model to follow for ALAC Policy Advice: https://features.icann.org/resolutions
Laura Bengford:Depending on the artwork required could be by UX designer or graphic designer. Usually they are one offs as needed.
Anthony Niiganii (MBE):great question Olivier about the look and feel
Laura Bengford:Also photos can be used.
Heidi Ullrich:Photos will personalize it
Heidi Ullrich:we also have some great graphics already developed we could use
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:I think there are other synergies and similiarlies with other ACs (SSAC, GAC, RSSAC)
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:ACs generate correspondence for eg
Anthony Niiganii (MBE):just taken it in
Laura Bengford:+1 on the synergies
Ariel Liang:agree with Steve - need to identify what are the most important content for updates
Ariel Liang:and then figure out the ways for update
Steve Allison:Laura can you talk about accessibility and translation
Laura Bengford:We can work on Accessibility in tandem with Accessibility WG and tools developed. Also translation
Ariel Liang:http://atlarge.icann.org/correspondence
Anthony Niiganii (MBE):I agree with Laura, and this is something that should be brought up with the Accessibility WG as there is discussion about developing checklist for virtual participation, in whatever form that may take
Heidi Ullrich:+1 Laura and Anthony
Heidi Ullrich:I agree that the Accessbility WG - with the TTF - could advise on this point
Heidi Ullrich:Ariel and All - please take a look at the board resolution page: https://features.icann.org/resolutions
Anthony Niiganii (MBE):unfortunately I am not available to participate tomorrow., and will catch up with the recording.
Ariel Liang:@Heidi that's a good example!
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:re: board resolution page, the categories is the idea, however correspondence can have multiple "tags" - gTLDs, IDN
Anthony Niiganii (MBE):I can see that many people who come to the site first do not see a "welcome greeting" that is important to foster community engagement
Anthony Niiganii (MBE):that could be why some many jump
Heidi Ullrich:Good point, Anthony
Heidi Ullrich:Great job, Ariel and Steve!!! Also, thanks to the community web team!! We selected the right people!
Laura Bengford:Great meeting, thank you everyone!
Anthony Niiganii (MBE):I will prepare some thoughts tonight that can be shared with everyone.
Heidi Ullrich:Thanks, Ariel
Heidi Ullrich:Anthony, I meant!
Heidi Ullrich:I write "Thanks, Ariel" so often ;)
Anthony Niiganii (MBE)::) it's ok...Ariel is a team member anywhere
Ariel Liang:hahaha
Ariel Liang:thanks Heidi
Anthony Niiganii (MBE):Ekosani Everyone! Kinanaskomitinawa!
Ariel Liang:Thank you bye bye
Heidi Ullrich:bye!
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Take care all
Steve Allison:Thanks all. bye
Action items
- Product team (Steve Allison) to propose a method for producing artwork in the long run
- The website project team (Dev Anand Teelucksingh, Olivier Crepin-Leblond, Anthony Niiganii) to review the questions from the target audience and identify key activities and information about the At-Large community to be presented on the new website in the near future meeting
- The website project team (Dev Anand Teelucksingh, Olivier Crepin-Leblond, Anthony Niiganii) to deep dive in the Correspondence page in next meeting
- Ariel Liang to explain to Steve about the Correspondence Page and the PD page on the wiki
22 August 2014
Action Items
- Steve Allison to speak with Chris Gift and Laura Bengford to:
- 1) Understand and set realistic goal for the website revamp project based on current
- 2) Identify vendor for the website (possibly Column Five?)
- Steve Allison to review the community interview transcripts and summary posted on this page.
- Steve Allison to review the At-Large Beginner's Guides: 1) Participating in At-Large, 2) Policy Advice in ALAC, 3) At-Large Structure
- Ariel Liang to review the At-Large website page by page and identify the problems of the site in a specific manner
- Ariel Liang to start drafting the project background, current situation, and objective section of the project charter
- Ariel Liang to brainstorm possible community survey based on the interview questions
- Ariel Liang to review materials of Column Five: Capabilities & Process Review
08 August 2014
Agenda
- Introduction
- Review of the Budget
- Review of the Timeline
- People involved and work breakdown
- Project management
- Extent of At-Large community involvement
Action Items
- Ariel Liang and Laura Bengford to review the interviews and identify potential themes for the website (the themes will be part of the project charter).
- Ariel Liang and Laura Bengford to set up a work session and complete the first draft of the project charter.
- Ariel Liang to inform Dev and Olivier about the making of the project charter and later ask them to comment on the draft.
- Laura Bengford to figure out the requirement of project management and try to identify a person from the web team to be the project manager (possibly Kyle?).
- Heidi Ullrich to identify the 3rd community member to be on the task force.