15:04:50 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    Back to the desk now
15:05:11 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
    Action items: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Action+Items+2021+At-Large+Capacity+Building+WG+Webinars+Team+Call
15:05:55 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    I've done them all yes
15:06:01 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    if they were in EN
15:07:02 From Maureen Hilyard ALAC to Everyone:
    I have to admit I didn't get to the ICANN Learn courses, although have completed quite a few ages ago... but not all like Cheryl.
15:07:28 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    Many have been redone  so it was worth the look into again @Maureen
15:07:41 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
    Google doc for review: https://accounts.google.com/speedbump/samlconfirmaccount?continue=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fspreadsheets%2Fd%2F1wE196fuxkIXc3hBnM0QK26X6QRDsY8e-mdMK7UqZ2IY%2Fedit&service=wise&sarp=1&scc=0&checkedDomains=youtube&checkConnection=youtube%3A223%3A0&osid=1&TL=AC7eWV2pfKcvw6GbieqgC9v75noRzlQOFZa9KPM61zFiWq7HTnvW-V9dN788DCvY
15:07:42 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    but if you trust my opinions  they are listed
15:07:44 From Gisella Gruber - ICANN Org to Everyone:
    I thought it was my line.
15:08:09 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone:
    You made it, Naveed. You mentioned it would be so late for you. Welcome!
15:08:36 From Naveed to Everyone:
    Yeah. its 1 am in the morning here :-)
15:08:48 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    Typical ICANN
15:09:27 From Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org to Everyone:
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cdMehSFXF8G-F1fXvEqf56r7KFcIJtkFpONVLUjb51s/edit#heading=h.j6voyki85cau
15:13:45 From Naveed to Everyone:
    Perhaps, making a graph representation of the data could be useful
15:16:27 From Maureen Hilyard ALAC to Everyone:
    +1 Cheryl
15:17:07 From Hadia El Miniawi to Everyone:
    @Muareen Thank you
15:17:19 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone:
    Thank you, Maureen. The additions are great!
15:17:48 From Maureen Hilyard ALAC to Everyone:
    Just adding my bit to the hard work that went into the document for a start by everyone here.
15:18:48 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    Suere happy to add pretty pictures
15:18:58 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    Sara needs to control that please
15:19:21 From Naveed to Everyone:
    Sure
15:19:23 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
    Could you please state the related AI for this?
15:20:23 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone:
    @Heidi, the AI is to add graphical representation of the data
15:20:33 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone:
    Please tag to me, Hadia and Naveed
15:20:58 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    AI  Sara will work with others in the WG to add graphics to the Doc then after final toilet  the Doc should be readied to distribute 1st to O&E and then wider via ALAC if so decided
15:21:16 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
    Thanks, Sarah and Cheryl
15:21:31 From Alberto Soto to Everyone:
    Hi all! Sorry I’m later
15:21:46 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
    I have noted:
15:21:48 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
    Sarah Kiden to develop the graphic associated with the data in the analysis of the Art of Leadership. 
    Heidi Ullrich to add the item of the Art of Leadership Analysis to the CBWG agenda for a final review before the O/E SC and the wider ALAC.
15:22:21 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    Agreed  @JZ  that seems a real risk
15:23:22 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    Good plan @JZ  it might be a challenge at times but worthy work IMO
15:23:23 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
    Staff are working with Alan on the ALS Mob. The operational side of the implementation will take several months. Following this, a communication plan will need to be developed and implemented.
15:24:46 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    Thanks for that notice re APRALO efforts  @JZ  :-)   I feel like the proud grandmother n that at times  I must say
15:24:58 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    Aris and Co are doing great work
15:26:52 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone:
    That’s vision, JZ
15:27:28 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    That is analogous to their original design/purpose @JZ
15:28:27 From Glenn McKnight to Everyone:
    As to JK comments,  the late John More of ISOC DC stressed from his experience with Sierra Club the value of grassroots empowerment. His community organizing experience was invaluable but folks didn't understand it
15:28:59 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    He is indeed a great loss  @Glenn agreed
15:29:23 From Glenn McKnight to Everyone:
    The work we are doing with Rotary Club and IEEE Smart Village illustrates how organizations can partner and grow together.
15:31:08 From Glenn McKnight to Everyone:
    The feedback from new bodies get overwhelmed and as JK mentioned the message has to resonate. Make it relevant
15:32:04 From Glenn McKnight to Everyone:
    Similar to a political campaign, very simple message
15:33:41 From Glenn McKnight to Everyone:
    I am muted
15:33:58 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
    Hadia, your microphone is open.
15:34:29 From Hadia El Miniawi to Everyone:
    Muted now thanks
15:34:46 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
    Thanks, Hadia.
15:34:57 From Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org to Everyone:
    We have Jonathan on the phone line
15:35:02 From Maureen Hilyard ALAC to Everyone:
    Sorry that former noise was me. I was trying to cut off my phone now that I am back on zoom..
15:35:03 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
    Thanks
15:35:47 From Hadia El Miniawi to Everyone:
    @Glenn I just joined a Rotary club in Egypt a few months ago
15:35:47 From Maureen Hilyard ALAC to Everyone:
    But I wanted to say that I agree with what JZ was saying about the messaging to the communities. I like the idea of surveys
15:36:23 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    more use than collecting names or business cards @Maureen, collecting input
15:36:52 From Hadia El Miniawi to Everyone:
    @Maureen would you like to take the floor?
15:37:18 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone:
    +1 Glenn
15:38:18 From Glenn McKnight to Everyone:
    i can share the work by the IEEE Smart Village and Rotary International.  Joan is very active in this relationship with our foundation
15:42:40 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    appreciated  if you could @Glenn
15:43:18 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    SYnchronisation needs a single foundation to work from of course
15:44:55 From Glenn McKnight to Everyone:
    JK  menitioned schools of IG and we are planning another event before the ICANN 77 at American University.  June 10th and June 11th and we will strongly recommend anyone attending the ICANN meeting to apply for the school.  Obviously we focus on the ICANN fellows and NexGen but will encourage any atlarge member to apply.  Its a two day event with American University. Our focus is the program right now and our program committee includes  Fiona Alexander and the theme is Accessibility and Inclusion
15:46:03 From Glenn McKnight to Everyone:
    FYI all the VSIG recordings are available on YouTube. over 111 recordings on 11 topics
15:46:09 From Lilian Deluque to Everyone:
    great glenn
15:46:33 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    So important  @Maureen  Thanks
15:46:49 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
    Good point, Maureen. Where are we collecting the feedback from the ALSes?
15:47:19 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    Not their purpose
15:47:35 From Glenn McKnight to Everyone:
    One thing that NARALO is stressing in our monthly meetings that we are getting summaries of the current ICANN policies
15:48:43 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    OK  granddaughter off to school now
15:49:02 From Maureen Hilyard ALAC to Everyone:
    Yes its got to come from the CPWG and hopefully there are lots of RALO people there to bring back the information to RALO Policy groups to work on how they can get messages out in their communities. And then sharing those ideas and activities with the outreach and engagement where it should get buy in, and hopefully  O&E funding.. to make their resourcing a reality
15:50:01 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
    Couldn’t the ALAC members the region be the conduit from the RALOs to the CPWG?
15:50:01 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    ABSOLUTELY  @Maureen  this has to be the way forward!!!
15:50:12 From Glenn McKnight to Everyone:
    One thing that JK created and was helpful was the Hot Topic document for everyone at the ICANN meetings.  A document in 'plain english'  its relevant, impact etc is
15:50:25 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone:
    Synchronisation of the message is key
15:50:57 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
    APRALO is the only RALO with a policy forum.
15:50:58 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    and that give these rank and file Members *purpose*  such a good plan!!!
15:51:52 From Glenn McKnight to Everyone:
    In a political point of view the candidates and members of a riding association will have retreats and they get the 'message' clear message that is the official speak, well thought out, simple but direct
15:54:29 From Glenn McKnight to Everyone:
    conspiracy theories can abound without substance. its the fear of change
15:54:47 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    so true @Glenn
15:55:43 From Maureen Hilyard ALAC to Everyone:
    I think we have to move away from quantity to quality.. recruitment vs policy output
15:55:48 From Glenn McKnight to Everyone:
    We had a overwhelming support of the vote at NARALO on the change in the RULES OF PROCEDURES which includes the ALS Mobilization, all but one vote but that vote is an out of date view of our roles
15:57:29 From Glenn McKnight to Everyone:
    @Maureen this is a very clear message from GSE  that we need to spend out O and E efforts with recruitment of policy wonks that can contribute.  The individual members abound with these talents
15:58:27 From Glenn McKnight to Everyone:
    In simple terms we need a rolodex not a phone book for our marketing
15:59:32 From Maureen Hilyard ALAC to Everyone:
    In APRALO we have decided to limit any efforts towards recruitment.. but to do more capacity building among our O&E wg members
15:59:47 From Maureen Hilyard ALAC to Everyone:
    through our policy forum
16:00:35 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    and that is wise indeed IMO  @Maureen
16:03:36 From Glenn McKnight to Everyone:
    Sorry i am being paged. I have to speak to my MP on a new proposed Consumer Protection bill in parliament.  bye all
16:03:57 From Hadia El Miniawi to Everyone:
    Bye Glenn - good luck
16:07:41 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone:
    Thank you for this work, Cheryl. I’ll take a look in the coming days.
16:08:18 From Hadia El Miniawi to Everyone:
    @Cheryl Thank you so much for this document
16:08:33 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    nP
16:08:35 From Maureen Hilyard ALAC to Everyone:
    Can  we have the link to this doc
16:08:54 From Naveed to Everyone:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wE196fuxkIXc3hBnM0QK26X6QRDsY8e-mdMK7UqZ2IY/edit#gid=0
16:08:57 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    Happy to share it with Andrea and Betsy
16:09:06 From Maureen Hilyard ALAC to Everyone:
    thanks Naveed
16:09:22 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    the link should have come to you from Yessim I think @Maureen
16:10:16 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    Makes sense @Hadia
16:10:40 From Maureen Hilyard ALAC to Everyone:
    Yes Yesim did send it . but I want it from this list cos it is therefore stored somewhere safe
16:14:20 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    I see NO relation at all between these courses and any ICANN Meeting styles,  but I do believe a properly curated set of course s and learning pathway(s) is indeed an objective in all this agreed  Naveed
16:14:29 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
    We do need to end the call - or at least the interpretation soon.
16:14:50 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    At'Large needs to use The Concensus Playbook
16:15:05 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    but training on that can e a 2023 action certainly
16:15:18 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone:
    Well worthwhile early on in fact
16:15:23 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone:
    Sounds like a plan
16:17:12 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
    Is 21:00 UTC ok?
16:17:20 From Heidi Ullrich - ICANN Org to Everyone:
    On the 5th if that is available
16:17:47 From Hadia El Miniawi to Everyone:
    Thank you bye
16:17:47 From Alberto Soto to Everyone:
    Thanks, bye bye
16:17:50 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone:
    Bye
16:18:02 From Hadia El Miniawi to Everyone:
    Happy Birthday  Cheryl
16:18:10 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone:
    Oh, we forgot. Happy birthday Cheryl!
16:18:19 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone:
    Sorry. We talked about it last time
16:18:22 From Hadia El Miniawi to Everyone:
    Many Happy Returns

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