09:39:34 From Claudia Ruiz to Everyone : Welcome to the Unaffiliated Mobilization Working Party Call
09:48:16 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : It is a very noisy line ATM so if we can avoid it ===Good
10:04:03 From Heidi Ullrich to Everyone : Action Items; https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Unaffiliated+Individuals+Working+Party+Action+Items
10:04:13 From Claudia Ruiz to Everyone : Welcome Judith
10:04:22 From Gopal Tadepalli to Everyone : Greetings. - Dr. T V Gopal, Professor, Department of Computer Science and Engineering, College of Engineering, Guindy Campus, Anna University , Chennai, INDIA.
10:04:44 From Claudia Ruiz to Everyone : Welcome Nadira
10:05:07 From Heidi Ullrich to Everyone : LACRALO is also is also considering an ALS/org for their individuals.
10:05:47 From Heidi Ullrich to Everyone : Thanks.
10:05:50 From Nadira AL-ARAJ to Everyone : Apologies for being late
10:07:00 From Claudia Ruiz to Everyone : Welcome Esther Patricia
10:07:16 From Esther Patricia Akello to Everyone : Thanks Claudia
10:07:28 From Esther Patricia Akello to Everyone : Hello everyone
10:08:41 From Heidi Ullrich to Everyone : Noted, Roberto
10:09:26 From Claudia Ruiz to Everyone : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1s4Kf7uX1CPyN9KmvjWvtwx6nnMtZCBsJpb5WE4wht3Y/edit
10:11:33 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : Yes to views
10:12:30 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : May as well be the same as the other WP
10:12:55 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone : I believe we can provide a table with attendance
10:13:41 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone : @Roberto noted
10:14:09 From Claudia Ruiz to Everyone : Welcome Alan
10:14:47 From Alan Greenberg to Everyone : Sorry to be late.
10:14:47 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : I would think summary
10:15:51 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone : AI: Staff to complete the WP attendance data and add it to the WP report as App 1
10:15:59 From Alan Greenberg to Everyone : Thanks
10:17:55 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : Drop it
10:18:23 From Claudia Ruiz to Everyone : Welcome Hannan Khatib
10:18:38 From Claudia Ruiz to Everyone : Welcome Natalia
10:19:04 From Natalia Filina to Everyone : thank you Claudia and hello everyone!
10:19:17 From Claudia Ruiz to Everyone : Welcome Abdulkarim
10:23:36 From Alan Greenberg to Everyone : PROPOSED TEXT: RALO Individual Member – is a member of a RALO that has been accepted as an individual independently from the fact of being a member of a certified At-Large Structure (ALS) or not and continues to meet the membership criteria.
10:24:39 From David Mackey to Everyone : Sarah has a hand up
10:28:51 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : No objection
10:29:08 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone : :-)
10:29:11 From Esther Patricia Akello to Everyone : no objection
10:29:15 From David Mackey to Everyone : No objection zzzzzzzz
10:29:19 From Natalia Filina to Everyone : agree-))) don`t sleep-)
10:29:26 From David Mackey to Everyone : agreement is silent lol
10:29:28 From Alan Greenberg to Everyone : PROPOSED TEXT FOR 2nd PARA of EXP % CRITERIA: In other words, in addition to those who are ALS members, we should make use of the potential of individuals who are not members of an ALS. This will allow At-large to widen the At-Large footprint and to provide the opportunity to all individuals to contribute to the policy development and other ICANN processes.
10:29:58 From Judith Hellerstein to Everyone : Yes listening
10:33:25 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : KISS
10:33:52 From Nadira AL-ARAJ to Everyone : I agree with Alan to keep it simple
10:34:19 From David Mackey to Everyone : true
10:36:10 From Nadira AL-ARAJ to Everyone : I resolved my suggestion
10:37:10 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone : Noted, Alan!
10:37:12 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : Exactlu @Alan
10:37:15 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone : You are correct @Alan
10:39:54 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : It is a common occurrence yes Roberto... But this is a declared matter not a rule against... Thus @Alan's issue of saying "perceived, or possible COI
10:43:55 From Jonathan Zuck to Everyone : Yep, If it was preventative, 80% of ICANN attendees would have avoid joining
10:44:21 From Jonathan Zuck to Everyone : It’s not a conflict, it’s “context.”
10:44:42 From David Mackey to Everyone : +1 Jonathan & Alan
10:45:03 From Alan Greenberg to Everyone : One of the FIRST real blow-ups in NARALO was when we identified a Registrar employee as a NomCom delegate.
10:45:09 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : well said @JZ
10:45:18 From Gopal Tadepalli to Everyone : I suppose that the office maintaining the records of ALS and Individual Members ought to be the same / have a method for cross-checking at regular intervals. - Dr. T V Gopal
10:45:55 From Alan Greenberg to Everyone : @Gopal. It will be. Both are a staff function.
10:46:08 From Esther Patricia Akello to Everyone : +1 @Gropal
10:47:16 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone : I’ll clarify
10:47:28 From Roberto to Everyone : Thanks @Sarah
10:47:44 From Gopal Tadepalli to Everyone : Should we then have a section of "expectations from staff @ ICANN"? - Dr. T V Gopal
10:47:53 From Judith Hellerstein to Everyone : What is your suggestion Sebastien
10:48:02 From Judith Hellerstein to Everyone : We all would like to know
10:48:42 From Judith Hellerstein to Everyone : Why cannot individual members take leadership positions?
10:49:35 From Judith Hellerstein to Everyone : +1CLO
10:49:52 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone : @all kindly note the rules for leaders in LACRALO:
LACRALO members who are interested in running for leadership positions shall:
a) State that they do not have any of the following conflicts of interest, which are incompatible with LACRALO leadership positions:
•Have a close family relationship with ICANN employees (parents, siblings, spouses, partners, children);
•Be under a financial contract with ICANN;•Hold leadership positions in registries, registrars, ISPs or the chambers that specifically represent these business interests;
•Be in a decision-making position on behalf of a government (e.g. a Minister of State, Deputy Minister, Secretary, or equivalent position);
•Act as a country representative to the GAC (or other Advisory Committees/Supporting Organizations).
b) Declare other possible conflicts of interest and explain how they will handle these conflicts once they take their leadership position in LACRALO.
10:50:02 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone : Agree, there should not be limitations
10:50:34 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone : My comment in the document is to state it that there are no limitations
10:51:10 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : Ahh that was not clear by what you said Sara thank you for clarifying
10:52:18 From Nadira AL-ARAJ to Everyone : Even in APRALO, there is not restrictions
10:52:37 From Judith Hellerstein to Everyone : @alan @jonathan these lacralo rules are good ones
10:53:41 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone : AFRALO also currently has such restriction
10:53:45 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone : On leadership positions
10:53:45 From Nadira AL-ARAJ to Everyone : I agree with your point Roberto, there is no need to include such issue in the report.
10:54:06 From Nadira AL-ARAJ to Everyone : I think better be silent
10:54:27 From Nadira AL-ARAJ to Everyone : +1 Alan
10:55:36 From Alan Greenberg to Everyone : No, what you are suggesting was never one of the options.
10:56:00 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : No one (that I have heard yet) is saying that as an option @Roberto rather tht this Doc should be *silent* on the issue OR as Sarah proposes state *No Limitations*
10:56:14 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone : in LACRALO for an individual to apply for a leadership position, such member must be nominated by a “normal ALS” (physically located in the subregion) which shall nominate according to the rotation principle
10:56:52 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone : The ALs of individual ,members cannot nominate itself candidates to leadership positions
10:56:56 From Silvia Vivanco to Everyone : Correct @ Alan
10:56:56 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : Yes APRALO does not restric in any way
10:57:24 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone : Remaining silent leaves it open for different interpretation
10:57:35 From David Mackey to Everyone : +1 Sarah
10:57:59 From Judith Hellerstein to Everyone : +1 Alan
10:58:00 From Heidi Ullrich to Everyone : What about distinguishing between At-Large/ICANN leadership positions vs RALO leadership positions?
10:58:26 From Gopal Tadepalli to Everyone : We may include a footnote that "On all other matters [not explicitly] included in this report, RALOs may have the discretion. - Dr. T V Gopal
10:58:30 From Judith Hellerstein to Everyone : I see no reason why individual members cannot do both
10:58:30 From Heidi Ullrich to Everyone : Noted to Roberto.
10:58:40 From David Mackey to Everyone : +1 to Sarah does not mean leaving it open to interpretation is good
10:58:41 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : Why distinguish @Heidi?
10:58:49 From Alan Greenberg to Everyone : @Heidi, if we have the discussion, that can be one of the nuances.
10:58:52 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr to Everyone : Sorry I need to leave now for my next call
10:59:03 From Alan Greenberg to Everyone : I would prefer not to though...
10:59:32 From David Mackey to Everyone : +1 Judith
10:59:34 From Natalia Filina to Everyone : +1 Judith
10:59:40 From Roberto to Everyone : @Alan we can discuss it and come to conclusion to be silent
10:59:45 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone : +1 Judith
11:01:37 From Heidi Ullrich to Everyone : Does this WP have the mandate to tell the RALOs how to handle individuals in leadership position in their RALOs?
11:01:51 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone : Good question, Heidi
11:02:08 From Natalia Filina to Everyone : to be conservative = to be against usually...
11:02:42 From Yrjo Lansipuro to Everyone : Heidi’sq
11:02:50 From David Mackey to Everyone : It’s hard to mobilize individual members without opportunities to fully participate
11:03:00 From Judith Hellerstein to Everyone : Exactly David
11:03:07 From Yrjo Lansipuro to Everyone : Heidi’s question is relevant
11:03:22 From Heidi Ullrich to Everyone : Thanks, All
11:03:27 From Sarah Kiden to Everyone : Thank you all
11:03:30 From David Mackey to Everyone : Bye All … good discussion as always. :-)
11:03:31 From Esther Patricia Akello to Everyone : bye everybody
11:03:33 From Natalia Filina to Everyone : thanks all!!! bye!
