Zoom Chat: 2021-01-25 Finance and Budget Subcommittee Working Group Call

08:22:29 From Claudia Ruiz to Everyone : Welcome to the Finance and Budget Subcommittee Working Group Call
08:28:50 From Dave Kissoondoyal to Everyone : Hello everyone
08:29:51 From Joanna Kulesza to Everyone : hi everyone!
08:34:05 From Heidi Ullrich to Everyone : Hi All, thank you very much for the comments.
08:34:20 From Claudia Ruiz to Everyone : 2021-01-25 Finance and Budget Subcommittee Working Group Call
08:34:31 From Heidi Ullrich to Everyone : I will add the comments and final decision in the appropriate column
08:35:05 From Nadira AL-ARAJ to Everyone : I don’t see my comments that I sent to Heidi before last meeting
08:35:30 From Marita Moll to Everyone : I didn't get the attachment
08:35:50 From Heidi Ullrich to Everyone : @Sebastien, please could you send the revised versions to staff?
08:35:56 From Heidi Ullrich to Everyone : We need to post them and ultimately submit them
08:36:07 From Sébastien Bachollet to Everyone : @Marita I send you
08:36:35 From Sébastien Bachollet to Everyone : I done it @Heiidi, to your and to staff
08:37:09 From Claudia Ruiz to Everyone : Welcome Harold and Alan
08:37:10 From Heidi Ullrich to Everyone : I’ll add them now
08:37:27 From Ricardo Holmquist to Everyone : Heidi, can we have the ABR from Judith, so we can see the stats. Thank you :)
08:37:44 From Marita Moll to Everyone : Okay, @ Judith. I guess someone is looking at the stats then?
08:38:02 From Judith Hellerstein to Everyone : hi nadira, each of us actually edited the page and added our own comment s
08:38:54 From Nadira AL-ARAJ to Everyone : mine was sent before the creation of this column
08:38:55 From Judith Hellerstein to Everyone : @ricardo if you click on the page in the agenda you can download the ABR
08:39:21 From Ricardo Holmquist to Everyone : Thanks Judith!, didn't know that, always learning with the wikis
08:39:23 From Joanna Kulesza to Everyone : Strong support for JZ's proposal
08:39:50 From Marita Moll to Everyone : Ya, me too @ Ricardo
08:40:29 From Dave Kissoondoyal to Everyone : I do support JZ proposal as well
08:42:11 From Marita Moll to Everyone : @Justine -- I wondering about that as well -- I am new to this but have done lots of evaluations for funding. Hard to make comments with a budget
08:42:21 From Heidi Ullrich to Everyone : No numbers needed
08:42:30 From Heidi Ullrich to Everyone : Nadira, your comments are posted
08:43:16 From Nadira AL-ARAJ to Everyone : sorry
08:43:26 From Nadira AL-ARAJ to Everyone : Heidi
08:43:53 From Nadira AL-ARAJ to Everyone : I noticed the order is different than last week
08:44:14 From Heidi Ullrich to Everyone : No, the order is the same
08:45:29 From Heidi Ullrich to Everyone : @Nadira, which items do you believe are re-ordered.
08:46:19 From Nadira AL-ARAJ to Everyone : Jonathan’s were not posted before I stopped reviewing them
08:46:56 From Nadira AL-ARAJ to Everyone : I didn’t do my HWK this week
08:47:52 From Heidi Ullrich to Everyone : Yes, apologies. They were submitted late last week. I posted one last week and the two others just now.
08:49:20 From Marita Moll to Everyone : Okay -- as I said -- that's unique @Alan
08:50:33 From Nadira AL-ARAJ to Everyone : Hence here is my comments on the two ABR proposals, “Real-time Captioning RTT of Zoom Meetings in Spanish and French” Comments: A) Title: I suggest adding to the title “Pilot” to be Pilot Real-time Captioning RTT of Zoom Meetings in Spanish and French Reasoning: To see if it does provide value for money. I mean if there will be enough users to this service. B) A comment on: Could this proposal splitted into two pilots. 1) To provide a real-time Captioning RTT in Spanish/French 2) To provide a translation to the English real-time Captioning RTT to the other language (French/Spanish) and make it available with the recording of the session. C) Regarding the integration of more than one language of the RTT into Zoom, I expect it to be very complex. Hence providing the RTT of the non-english language through a separate stream link might be feasible. I’m with the support of this ABR proposal.
08:51:21 From Maureen Hilyard to Everyone : Thanks Nadira
08:51:37 From Nadira AL-ARAJ to Everyone : “Virtual School of Internet Governance ( VSIG)” Since ICANN always co-sponsors schools of IG, I don’t see any reason for not supporting the translation of the material of VSIG unless sponsoring such programs goes through the Global Stakeholder Engagement budget. However, the proposal needs to elaborate on the material to be translated, because VSIG did announce the delivery of VSIG for its third edition in English, Spanish and French.
08:55:10 From Justine Chew to Everyone : +1 marita
08:57:08 From Marita Moll to Everyone : +1 for Justine's explanation re: polls. This is about poll design -- this is hard stuff.
08:57:22 From Joanna Kulesza to Everyone : +1
08:58:17 From Marita Moll to Everyone : No @ Judith. It is not like doodle or loomio. Think Gallup polls, maybe
08:58:40 From Justine Chew to Everyone : JZ's words on the Professional Individual End User Poll proposal: "A polling effort would necessarily include: Identification of key issues Professional question construction (a) To facilitate demographic distinction (b) To minimize bias Fielding a professional survey."
08:59:01 From Alfredo Calderon to Everyone : Or Even the type of research that Pew Research does.
08:59:14 From Nadira AL-ARAJ to Everyone : what Judith had said that what Jonathan explained
08:59:17 From Justine Chew to Everyone : Correct @Alfredo
08:59:30 From Heidi Ullrich to Everyone : Should we dial to him?
08:59:37 From Heidi Ullrich to Everyone : He is available
08:59:41 From Marita Moll to Everyone : Yes, there are lots of professional pollsters. They are expensive but absolutely necessary to do it right
09:00:51 From Marita Moll to Everyone : also the pollsters know how to do sampling
09:01:02 From Marita Moll to Everyone : That is not something we can do
09:01:55 From Justine Chew to Everyone : Exactly @Marita.
09:02:41 From Heidi Ullrich to Everyone : 17 RALO ABRs
09:07:31 From Dave Kissoondoyal to Everyone : can the functional area be approved without the costs?
09:10:08 From Marita Moll to Everyone : A certain amount of this kind of funding should go to SIGS. There should be a pot of money dedicated to this which can be fairly distributed
09:10:17 From Nadira AL-ARAJ to Everyone : if GSE doesn’t put money then it is worth pushing forwards
09:10:50 From Justine Chew to Everyone : Thank you @SeB for the clarification. That's very useful.
09:11:26 From Judith Hellerstein to Everyone : @nadira very good point
09:11:52 From Heidi Ullrich to Everyone : What is the decision on this one?
09:12:03 From Judith Hellerstein to Everyone : I meant to say if GSE does not believe in it than not sure we should
09:12:28 From Marita Moll to Everyone : @Heidi -- see my comment on supporting SIGS
09:12:51 From Heidi Ullrich to Everyone : @Marita, yes, should I add it?
09:13:13 From Heidi Ullrich to Everyone : Keep in mind there is RALO discretionary funding to partially fund these types of events
09:13:45 From Alfredo Calderon to Everyone : Digital Inclusion seems to be more focused as a Computer Literacy and suitable for the ISOC Foundation.
09:14:37 From Harold Arcos to Everyone : Yes,,
09:14:56 From Marita Moll to Everyone : @Alan -- I am not sure if they just didn't highlight that.
09:15:16 From Harold Arcos to Everyone : I am :) , please vote Yes! for LAC :)
09:15:38 From Marita Moll to Everyone : And internet gov. has to include ICANN somehow doesn't it
09:16:34 From Marita Moll to Everyone : I think we need to ask these people some more questions rather than vote yes or no
09:17:27 From Ricardo Holmquist to Everyone : Marita, this is what Sebastien told about
09:18:16 From Marita Moll to Everyone : Does yes mean we ask some more quesitons or just dispose of it
09:18:55 From Claudia Ruiz to Everyone : Please state name when taking the floor for Interpreters
09:20:03 From Heidi Ullrich to Everyone : Chadian SIG.
09:20:22 From Nadira AL-ARAJ to Everyone : my Internet is dropped
09:20:51 From Justine Chew to Everyone : Chadian SIG - yes, support, on the basis of SeB's explanation.
09:21:18 From Nadira AL-ARAJ to Everyone : I suggest to support it
09:22:02 From Marita Moll to Everyone : Okay, that's clear thanks
09:22:14 From Jonathan Zuck to Everyone : I’m needed?
09:22:25 From Nadira AL-ARAJ to Everyone : we can recommend to allocate similar budget to all SIG
09:22:57 From Marita Moll to Everyone : Where do I vote? I vote yes
09:23:52 From Joanna Kulesza to Everyone : Would we want to have a separate voting space for all of these?
09:24:10 From Joanna Kulesza to Everyone : Seems we're one down and 16 to go with 6 mins left
09:24:27 From Marita Moll to Everyone : So we are voting with a thumbs up in reactions?
09:25:51 From Justine Chew to Everyone : No @Nadira
09:29:12 From Marita Moll to Everyone : Good question @Alan. I am missing that history
09:30:30 From Justine Chew to Everyone : Exactly @Alan.
09:30:42 From Marita Moll to Everyone : Yah -- that helps a lot at the moment. Strange process
09:30:51 From Heidi Ullrich to Everyone : It would likely help to have more ICANN context in them.
09:30:57 From Heidi Ullrich to Everyone : We can do both
09:31:03 From Heidi Ullrich to Everyone : submit and send directly to GSE
09:31:43 From Nadira AL-ARAJ to Everyone : in all SIG there is at least one session on DNS
09:33:19 From Joanna Kulesza to Everyone : +1
09:33:24 From Dave Kissoondoyal to Everyone : +1
09:33:33 From Nadira AL-ARAJ to Everyone : I agree
09:33:35 From Justine Chew to Everyone : Just to FBSC members please
09:34:15 From Judith Hellerstein to Everyone : that was my question
09:34:20 From Alan Greenberg to Everyone : Sorry, I have to leave now. Good luck.
09:34:30 From Judith Hellerstein to Everyone : i want Sebastien to discuss the new ones
09:35:04 From Heidi Ullrich to Everyone : Could we have the deadline be in. 24 hours?
09:35:22 From Heidi Ullrich to Everyone : And add an option of yes, with revision?
09:35:31 From Nadira AL-ARAJ to Everyone : maybe we can add a comment to the applicants
09:35:39 From Ricardo Holmquist to Everyone : @Heidi, sounds good
09:35:55 From Judith Hellerstein to Everyone : yes Heidi that is what i was going to say
09:35:56 From Marita Moll to Everyone : Okay -- good plan.
09:36:00 From Nadira AL-ARAJ to Everyone : yes Heidi on these options
09:36:08 From Justine Chew to Everyone : @Heidi, can staff please make sure the wiki has ALL the relevant information and updates. Thanks
09:36:19 From Heidi Ullrich to Everyone : yes, JC
09:36:43 From Heidi Ullrich to Everyone : Each full. Proposal is attached