Gisella Gruber-White:Welcome to the DSDT call on Tuesday 29 January 2013 at 1700 UTC
Gisella Gruber-White:Agenda: https://community.icann.org/x/pwVlAg
Carlton Samuels:Hiya all
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Hi
Yaovi Atohoun:Hello
Yaovi Atohoun:Could you send the URL of the draft text for DSDT?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Sandbox ?
Yaovi Atohoun:Sorry, there is a link in the updated agenda
Alan Greenberg:dialing in now.
Yaovi Atohoun:@Holly, Please could you speak a bit loudly? thanks
Heidi Ullrich:Is this AI ok? AI: Glossry definitions to be made by DT in colloboration with the other DTs
Yaovi Atohoun:OK. thanks
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:might polosh that a bit Heidi
Heidi Ullrich:AI: The DSDT is to prepare definitionsof key terms as used in the draft ROPs in colloboration with the other DTs
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:where those Key terms are Defined Terms (Capatalised words often with specoific and unique meaning) in the text Yes
Carlton Samuels:+1 to Alan
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:+1 Alan, no need to reinvent the wheel, especially for terms not referenced in the RoP
Heidi Ullrich:Third time lucky: The DSDT is to prepare definitions of key terms where those Key terms are Defined Terms (Capatalised words often with specoific and unique meaning) in the text.
Holly Raiche:I just lost my telephone connection - please call me back
Heidi Ullrich:ok
Heidi Ullrich:Adigo is dialing Holly
Holly Raiche:I can hear - just not talk
Gisella Gruber-White:Holly - just got your voicemail
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:OK good
Gisella Gruber-White:We are still trying
Holly Raiche:I'm back
Cheryl Langdon-Orr::-) Yaovi is next in line
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Agreed Dev ++++1
Alan Greenberg:NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:AG Next right iof reply
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Is it up to this WG to workon this now?
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I mean, I think we're going off at tangent.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Web not zWiki as Primary and Wiki can get link to PDF etc?>
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:OCL this was raised while the Chair was of telco
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:The TTF will deal with this. And how the ALAC stores its RoPs, is ALAC business, not this WG's business, isn't it?
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:ok
Alan Greenberg:Yes OLivier, I only introduced it while we were waiting for HOlly to get back.
Holly Raiche:I am back
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:If you want to be thorough you could also mention to the TTF that they should need to also punt this to Languages & have it translated -- and to also consider making the RoPs accessible -- I was thinking of having a voice recording the RoPs made.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:GOOD Points OCL
Heidi Ullrich:Should that be an AI? Re voice recording?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:leave that to OCL
Heidi Ullrich:ok
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:I understand the finese needed by a word processor to create a print ready formatted version as a PDF. But as to whether a web version is needed, I do think the sections need to be put on a read only section on the wiki simply because 1) the ALAC/At-Large could specific to sections of the RoP from other wiki pages 2) the wiki machine transation tool would allow unofficial translation in other languages. As to accessibility, we could take steps to ensure that the PDF is accessible (works with screen readers, able to export to plain text for braille readers, etc)
Alan Greenberg:Well Cheryl, we need to work offline so that in the future we can disagree with each other more on these public calls.
Alan Greenberg:Sandbox - V2
Alan Greenberg:??
Heidi Ullrich:I dropped. Could someone from staff please take that AI?
Alan Greenberg:LAst time we tried to move stuff out of the sandbox, we had a real mess on our hands
Heidi Ullrich:Cheryl, I'm sorry, but I dropped as you were saying that AI
Heidi Ullrich:Could you please repeat it?
Carlton Samuels:'Rape & pillage'! LOLOLOL
Heidi Ullrich:Current DSDT sandbox: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Definition+and+Structure+Draft+Team+Sandbox
Holly Raiche:Maybe just call it definitions and put a date on it so we know it is from today's call
Holly Raiche:Fine by me
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Sure
Heidi Ullrich:New page: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/DSDT+Definitions+-++29+January+2013
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Excellent thanks Heidoi
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Heidi
Yaovi Atohoun:disconnected
Gisella Gruber-White:@ Yaovi - we are calling you
Yaovi Atohoun:I am back
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:THis will not be a formatted ( as such)
Heidi Ullrich:https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Rules+of+Procedure+Modification+Proposals+Template+Workspace
Holly Raiche:I hear you
Holly Raiche:a week?
Yaovi Atohoun:Let say 10 days
Holly Raiche:Okay -we are really depending on Alan so that we can go through a final document
Carlton Samuels:Crown for Alan?
Carlton Samuels:Do I ahve a boomlet?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:LOL
Carlton Samuels::-)
Holly Raiche:Our group has to follow finalisation by the other teams - so two weeks
Eduardo Diaz:Shall we say all be ready by Feb 11?
Eduardo Diaz:for the final final master
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:agree with Alan
Holly Raiche:AAgree with Alan
Eduardo Diaz:final final master to start doing the proof/clean-up. That is waht I really meant.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Run that in parralel durrinng the +10-14 days toiome sure
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:DSDT is related to the WHOLE document
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:yes OCL
Yaovi Atohoun:Available also to help in the proof
Heidi Ullrich:I hear you, Alan ;)
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:I use LibreOffice ;-)
Carlton Samuels:@Alan: At least editable.
Alan Greenberg:By the time you go back and forth a few times, you typically have a document that is not fully usable by either. Sad but typically true.
Heidi Ullrich:Could you please review the AIs in the pod to the right?
Gisella Gruber-White:DMDT & MADT
Alan Greenberg:DMDT MADT
Gisella Gruber-White:DSDT week 11th FEb
Yaovi Atohoun:Will check with Yro if we need one
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Yes please Yaoivi (but I doubt it)
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:sORRT TYPO IN YOUR NAME
Yaovi Atohoun:No problem. Thanks
Alan Greenberg:Bye all
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Bye
Gisella Gruber-White:Bye Alan
Heidi Ullrich:Thanks, All!
Eduardo Diaz:Bye
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Thanks All and THANLS Holly for letting me take over ;-)
Gisella Gruber-White:Thank you all and hopefully Holly and Cheryl can get a little bit more sleep :-)
Yaovi Atohoun:Thank you all. Bye
Carlton Samuels:Thanks all
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Take care all
Carlton Samuels:Bye
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