Nathalie Peregrine:Welcome to the ROP Definitions and Structure Drafting Team meeting on Wednesday 19 September 2012 at 2000 UTC
Nathalie Peregrine:Meeting page: https://community.icann.org/x/s4ooAg
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:and drafting 2 emails at the same time too. I have 2 hands after all.
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I just need to get my feet to do something
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:LOL
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:you're on loudspeaker
Yaovi Atohoun:Hello
Nathalie Peregrine:hello!
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:sorry -- concentrating on the other call -- they're speaking about $$
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Good Morning from Fiji
Eduardo Diaz:¡Hola a Todos!
Sandra Hoferichter:Hello all!
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro::)
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Holly you need to speak in your "not quiet voice"
Alan Greenberg:My adobe speaker just came on!!
Alejandro Pisanty:hi all
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Hi Alex
Alan Greenberg:Holly youu are fading.
Alejandro Pisanty:need more audio volume please
Eduardo Diaz:https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Definition+and+Structure+Draft+Team+Sandbox
Alejandro Pisanty:alan you ok, Holly's souund real pale
Alan Greenberg:https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Definition+and+Structure+Draft+Team+Sandbox
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Thanks Edwardo
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:and Alan
Eduardo Diaz:Template workplace: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Rules+of+Procedure+Modification+Proposals+Template+Workspace
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Composition of ALAC
Alejandro Pisanty:Holly the sound is really a problem
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Holly time for your "lecturer" voice, the loud booming one
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:@ Staff, be great if you could please put the text that Holly is referring to in the adobe
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Matt is working ion that Sala
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Thanks Matt :)
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:@ Matt, not this one; it's the one with Holly's comments on the Headers, that is A1, A2, A3 and A4
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:@ Matt, it would be the sandbox, scroll right to the bottom
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:where Holly's comments are
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:The stuff up is the archived version
Matt Ashtiani:@ sala - is this the page you are referring to?
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Perfect, thanks Matt
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:yes Matt
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro::)
Matt Ashtiani::-)
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:in the draft just << insert link>>> as placholder for the pages referred to in our section
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:the mechanics need not hold up the drafting but it MUST be done right
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:duck and civer AG is on the ramoage ;-)
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:rampage
Heidi Ullrich:The "Portal" to the WG page is at: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Working+Groups
Alan Greenberg:civer???
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:cOver typo
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:that works fine Heidi for me as long as Alan gives the seal of approval ;-)
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I will repeat what I said in the chatroom. As Holly mentioned, our focus is now Structure which will include things like Composition of ALAC etc; We also need to look at where to insert the Executive Committee and various other Sub committees stemming from Jean Jacques and others comments
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Holly your team can alter the Master template to suit the teams needs and agreed text =>order, additional terms etc.,
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:yes same can be said for Appointments Selections Elections as well I would think i.e. comming in soon
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:last comment referred to Alans reporting on material preparation from other DT's
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:the headers can be placeholders and replaced with new niomenclature IF all DT's want of course it was just a tool to assist and clarify DT 'job' distribution and where it needs to go into the Master
Nathalie Peregrine:Jacqueline Morris sends her apology
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:thanks Nathalie
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:which drafting questions are these Sala? is it what I think of as the 'glossary list' worked on earlier???
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:No CLO, Drafting questions for the Structure
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:thanks for the clarification I did not understand properly
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:where the DSDT develops drafting questions to enable people to discuss various aspects of the structure
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Yes @ Holly
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:I am however still not sure about the use of the questions I may have that still wring as well perhaps I need to see a sample
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:wring = wrong
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:typo day today
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:I agree Holly; I was referring to our sandbox and penholder space
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:happy for a draft set to be out from oen holders asap sure
Cheryl Langdon-Orr: then identifiatioin of issues and the iterative process
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:@ CLO for instance when we reviewed the definitions, we had developed drafting questions
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:where people reviewed the definitions
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:so that IS what I think of as the glossary list then
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:so now we are on structures, we need to develop questions for the Team that will enable feedback for structure
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:so am not referring to glossary or definitions, merely using it as an example
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:yes for structure it is different
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Yes Alan that is a method that seems to be working well in those Dt's
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:@ Alan what you are referring to is something that will be ongoing and that we do anyway
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:as a COMMENT on the Template page perhaps Holly
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:what we are referring to are questions for our working space to help us zoom in and focus on structures
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Yes an as deffined in clause xx workes fine but as you say is a clost to penultimate activity
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Example of Drafting Questions:
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Questions for DSDT• What is the role of the Executive Committee [Structure Drafting Team]• In terms of composition the ration of elected members to appointed members of the ALAC is 4: 1, should this ratio be reflected in the composition of the Executive Committee? [Structure Drafting Team]• What is their specific role in the ALAC? [Structure Drafting Team]• How long can they serve within the Executive Committee? [Elections Drafting Team]
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:We will only deal with Structure and not Elections, Meetings etc
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:that is the text Alan is saying will be out over the w'end Sal and more
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:This is what I meant by drafting questions. They are meant to scope and tease out things for discussions on the wiki and then the Penholders can easily take that and draft
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:+1 Holly
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:LOL Alan
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:always happy to get back time Holly Ta...
Heidi Ullrich:Thank from Staff as well :)
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Alex, Ed, Sandra any comments
Eduardo Diaz:@sala: not at the momoent
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:ok
Sandra Hoferichter:no, I am fine
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:yes good point a copy toi the list
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:so TRUE OCL
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:bye all
Eduardo Diaz:Adios
Sandra Hoferichter:bye
Yaovi Atohoun 2:bye
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro:Thank you everyone
Alejandro Pisanty:bye all
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:and in the nic of time for OCL's mobile service providers limitation on calls :-)
