Yesim Nazlar:Welcome to the Finance and Budget Sub Committee (FBSC) Call on Wednesday, 10 February 2016 at 15:00 UTC
Yesim Nazlar:Agenda: https://community.icann.org/x/gAaAAw
Daniel K. Nanghaka:My call dropped
Maureen Hilyard:@Cheryl - yes the application asked for topics but it was definitely crystal-ball gazing
Kaili Kan:Having another parallel meeting -- CCT-RT, so just to drop by.
Maureen Hilyard:Hi Kaili
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:could the document please be unsynched?
Maureen Hilyard:These are new and active ALSes.. they are being given a message
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:I thik theree is merit in OCLs fears here
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:I am not doubting it's purpose rather that its ikelyhood of success might be minima
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Does the http://www.igfsa.org/ apply here?
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:ICANN already funds IGFSA and the purpose of IGFSA is exactly what is asked. http://www.igfsa.org/faqs
Leon Sanchez:Hello everyone
Leon Sanchez:my apologies for lateness
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Hello All, my apologies also for the lateness
Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong:Hello everyone my dial out is on English Channel so i need it on French Channel.Thanks
Yesim Nazlar:Hi Abdeldjalil - unfortunately we have only EN & ES channels for this call. Thanks
Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong:ok thank you
Yesim Nazlar:you're very welcomed!
Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong::)
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:agree Alan specifically with how yu framed the last part
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:now seeing this new text for LACRALO
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:oh yes I remember it well Dev
Glenn McKnight:I think Dev is saying that we need a clear purpose for the meeting
Glenn McKnight:I would suggest some pre meetings prior to the face to face
Glenn McKnight:Trust is earned
Glenn McKnight:Doing nothing isn't a good option
Maureen Hilyard:+! Heidi - there is a lot of preparation that needs to be done before this GA - and ICANN needs to step in and facilitate the process
Daniel K. Nanghaka:I agree, it is not a piece of cake to organise a GA
Leon Sanchez:I would only submit it if it DOES have clear goals and all needeed tools are in place for it to happen
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:a hard, painful experience, Cheryl
Maureen Hilyard:+1 @Leon
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Agree with Leon
Leon Sanchez:Otherwise we will be waisting valuable resources for something that won't produce other than more disappointments and polirazation
Leon Sanchez:Agree with Cheryl, we wouldn't want to be the ones to set the example for whenever asking financial resources they turn on us and say "Ha! yes! like with the LACRALO GA!"
Leon Sanchez:The community already has enough of a sentiment of criticism as to how At-Large costs add value for us to finance a GA without it having clear goals and tools in place in a timely fashion for it to achieve its objectives
Leon Sanchez:I apologize for not voicing this out but I don't have audio and I am in a very noisy place to ask for dial out
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:If Panama has been cancelled, Puerto Rico will too unless it is taken off the list of countries affected by the ZIKA virus
Heidi Ullrich:@Leon, the request does have clear goals.
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Currently Puerto Rico is in the affected area
Leon Sanchez:yes Heidi, but can we guarantee that the tools needed for the GA to achieve its goals will be in place and with enough preparation before we go into the GA?
Glenn McKnight:If not a GA a separate purposeful meeting
Glenn McKnight:Do we know where the substitute for Panama will be?
Maureen Hilyard:+1 @Sebastian
Leon Sanchez:That seems like a good idea Dev although we would be subject to uncertain events
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:they juggled worldwide
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:I believe it was swapped
Leon Sanchez:I guess the best way to carry a LACRALO GA would be to plan it as a stand alone meeting
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:We had 2 meetings in AP region in 2 years and missed outon an AF meeting
Leon Sanchez:Completely agree Cheryl! This is not a regular GA. This is an ad-hoc meeting to either re-build the RALO and heal it or to tear it apart for good and see what comes next
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:perhaps plan it as a special event as a stand alone meeting next year
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:agree Leon
Glenn McKnight:Is the meeting finishing at the top of the hour?
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:problems un,uting
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:yes it is more of a crisis mediation meeting than a GA in pure terms
Leon Sanchez:I do have a hard stop at the top of the hour
Maureen Hilyard:agree Sebastian..
Leon Sanchez:can't hear hyou OCL
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:barely, not well
Leon Sanchez:we can only hear the first word and then you fade out
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I'll drop off the call & call dial out again
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:but my mobile has frozen
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:and I tried using AC room but no luck
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:AC room does not work well
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:oh dear gremlins my friend
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:perhaps plan it as a special event as a stand alone meeting next year 2017
Leon Sanchez:I would suggest involving GSE through Rodrigo de la Parra to get this event financed
Glenn McKnight:Rejection of the proposal would be a message of non support given a serious communication problem
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:I agree Glen LOTs of sensetivities here
Maureen Hilyard:There are too many conditions that have to be met by the region before they hold a GA and as Cheryl said earlier that they shouldn't use the GA to air their problems as in Costa Rica
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:NOTE an Intersessional within the Region would not IMO have the same 'travel issues' as a Global CANN Meeting
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:exactly OCL
Cheryl Langdon-Orr: A make it happen somewheree message
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:indeed, put this for 2017
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:let all of these things that are supposed to be happening happen regardless of a GA
Glenn McKnight:Loris submitted an edited version
Glenn McKnight:Thanks all
Glenn McKnight:interesting appeal process
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:much more powerful OCL (
Maureen Hilyard:Happy for this request to be reconsidered in light of the response to the requests for APRALO
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:http://www.icann-studienkreis.net/previous-meetings/15th-meeting-of-the-icann-studienkreis/
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:http://www.icann-studienkreis.net/previous-meetings/14th-meeting-of-the-icann-studienkreis/
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:http://www.icann-studienkreis.net/previous-meetings/13th-meeting-of-the-icann-studienkreis/
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:There are way more years, but the only person from At-Large who spoke in a panel was Yrjö Länsipuro, back in 2013. He self funded his way there.
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Sébastien was in the meeting in 2014 -- but as ICANN Board
Heidi Ullrich:Well done to all who submitted and reviewed the FY17 At-Large requests.
Heidi Ullrich:They were well-though out and requests for revison were substantial and very useful.
Glenn McKnight:Alan Skuce and Glenn Mcknight from NARALO
Glenn McKnight:Alan Skuce has agreed to stand
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:sorry I was dropped
Daniel K. Nanghaka:I have no objection for Tijani
Maureen Hilyard:LOL
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:could we unsinc again please?
Yesim Nazlar:can you sync now?
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:thanks!
Yesim Nazlar:you're welcome!
Maureen Hilyard:Olivier is the coChair for Euralo on the O&E WG
Daniel K. Nanghaka:That is right Maureen
Daniel K. Nanghaka:Dev should Continue
Leon Sanchez:subject to process of course
Maureen Hilyard:Great idea Leon
Leon Sanchez:Thanks for your support :D
Glenn McKnight:Judith is a reasonable replacement
Glenn McKnight:Judith is a reasonable replacement\
Glenn McKnight:she is in Liberia
Glenn McKnight:yes
Glenn McKnight:\yes
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:sorted
Glenn McKnight:I will ask Judth to connect on this issue
Glenn McKnight:i am muted
Maureen Hilyard:bye all
Daniel K. Nanghaka:Bye all
ABDELDJALIL BACHAR BONG:Bye bye
