Nathalie Peregrine:Dear all, welcome to the At-Large ALS Criteria and Expectations Taskforce meeting on the 7th August 2015.
Nathalie Peregrine:Agenda page: https://community.icann.org/x/M49CAw
Juan Manuel Rojas:good morning, afternoon and evening
Alberto Soto:Buen dia, good morning, buenas tardes, good afternon, buenas noches, good knight!!
Nathalie Peregrine:Welcome all!
Heidi Ullrich:Welcome!
Nathalie Peregrine:done
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:me too I a seeing one slide at the time
Vanda:hi everyone
Nathalie Peregrine:We can all see slide 3
Wolf Ludwig:This is a challenge, Alan!
Glenn McKnight:Single member ALS is the same as a unaffiliated member then
Carlton Samuels:Howdy all
Wolf Ludwig:Or it could be an Individual member -- where Individuals are permitted ...
Juan Manuel Rojas:I believe that establish WHY they want join us.
Vanda:yes. we want individuous but may try to add them to ALS already existin in the country for instance
Glenn McKnight:Note that the ISOC process of accrediiting the new ISOC chapter s require 20 names for the sign up plus a founding board
Carlton Samuels:@Wolf: When is an ALS not an ALS?
Glenn McKnight:ISOC Chapters are incorporated entities
Wolf Ludwig:@Carlton: In case of a one-man-show ;-)!
Glenn McKnight:IEEE sections and ISOC Chapters are larger and active entities
Carlton Samuels:This presumes an ALS is a single issue organisation.
Carlton Samuels:@Wolf: Exactly so. But its the participation that is of use, not the memebrship
Glenn McKnight:Concept sounds good in theory but hard to force ALS's to comply
Wolf Ludwig:I agree, Carlton -- participation is more important than numbers of members! I know very small and active ALSes over here ...
Vanda:size also depends upon the size of the country
Glenn McKnight:@ Olivier I wondered when the idea of "free travel' will rear its ugly head
Carlton Samuels:The 'free travel' argument is bogus!!
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:@Glen: it is a reality. And some ALSes are complainning that they see other ALSes that are enjoying the free travel and they want to do things and be further involved and come to work with At-Large face to face, but no ability whatsoever to do so
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:CROPP is for outreach. What do we ahve for targeted inreach?
Carlton Samuels:ICANN pays for 4 persons from a RALO to attend a meeting. AND 1 to a Global Assembly TWICE!!
Glenn McKnight:@olivier you are puppetting the negative comments , I thought we agreed in slide one to avoid thiese comments
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:@Carton: if we had the figures fr atendance of ATLAS II, we'd see that free travel is a reality. And I'd like to see those figures.
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:@Glen: I am proposing some slutions and you are focussing on the 1 sentence I have made about the free travel. Well done.
Carlton Samuels:Years ago, we had a few ALAC members from LACRALO who went on a travel instead of attending ALAC meetings. And from that backlash, we have been saddled with this crap all these years. Those boys who became tourists cannot be the standard by which we are judged!!
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:it' proof that just mentioning "free travel" si a touchy issue.
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:@Carlton: check out the last bunch of CROPP attendees @BA and tell me if this was money well spent.
Glenn McKnight:@wow, this is getting crazy
Glenn McKnight:This is not productive
Glenn McKnight:lots of noise
Nathalie Peregrine:Adigo is muting the line
Glenn McKnight:Question on the saturday meeting
Glenn McKnight:My travel has me arrive on Saturday
Glenn McKnight:Can we clarify the travel to Dublin
Vanda:@ glenn I am checking mine
Glenn McKnight:My travel says my travel arrival is Saturday so I would not be attending the Saturday meeting
Vanda:@gelnn. mani give me the chance to arrive on Friday
Heidi Ullrich:@Glen, we will look into your arrival date
Carlton Samuels:@Olivier: We will always get a dissolute fella in a volunteer group. For example, the poster boy for tourist travel, one who caused so much grief to the At-Large and ALAC in India, was a CROPP awardee in LACRALO. You and I would know that. I willl rememebr because y'all beat me up badly when I argued against sanctions or further criteria for travel support. But there is no institutional memory
Glenn McKnight:@Heidi i will send you the email from Joseph
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I see two ways to improve ALS involvement: 1. travel for ALSes that are both active in At-Large but also important/useful due to the skills they would bring at the meeting. 2. support to create a local HUB with the ALS during an ICANN meeting. This would strengthen their involvement in both ways
Glenn McKnight:@heidi i sent you the email from Joseph
Carlton Samuels:Note my endorsement of WOlf's comments on individual contributionS!
Glenn McKnight:What is the role of the outside examiner?
Carlton Samuels:@Vanda: Note that I endorse Vanda's comments
Carlton Samuels:Yes
Carlton Samuels:I am speaking
Nathalie Peregrine:Carlton, I don't your mic activated
Vanda:we are not hearing you dear
Nathalie Peregrine:and not on Adigo either
Nathalie Peregrine:please activate your AC mic by clicking on the telephone icon and following instrcutions on the AC toolbar
Carlton Samuels:I reactivated my mic again
Nathalie Peregrine:ah now it is :)
Carlton Samuels:I will try after Juan Manuel Rojas
Alan Greenberg:@Glenn, At-Large review will focus on ALSes and At-Large
Alan Greenberg:Oops, sorry, ... and RALOs
Carlton Samuels:@Juan Manuel Rojas: +1
Carlton Samuels:With reservations.
Glenn McKnight:It would be good to know what the examiner is looking so we can be prepared for the analysis, Not to say we cook the books but we do our own pre-screen to see where the gaps or shortfallings exists
Wolf Ludwig:Only few people in our existing ALSes are involved and understand complex ALAC and ICANN issues as well.
Vanda:@ juan is right
Carlton Samuels:I am speaking
Nathalie Peregrine:Carlton, we can't hear you, can we dial out to you?
Vanda:@wolf yes. I ahve more tha 60 associates in my women group here , but the majority has no inerest into ICANN, normally Sylvia and myself the only ones that actively participate
Nathalie Peregrine:I see yourmic activated but still no sound
Carlton Samuels:Yes please +1 876-818-1799
Nathalie Peregrine:Adigo are dialing now
Silvia Vivanco:they are on the Agenda
Nathalie Peregrine:Agenda page: v
Nathalie Peregrine:https://community.icann.org/x/M49CAw
Glenn McKnight:the emaill had a list of the documents
Silvia Vivanco:Under reference documents on the Agenda meeting page
Nathalie Peregrine:Carlton is now on the audio bridge
Wolf Ludwig:difficult time for me.
Glenn McKnight:@wolf what is better for you
Wolf Ludwig:Later the day and in the evening ...
Glenn McKnight:@Carelton is trying to showcase the focused talents of individuals
Wolf Ludwig:Plus 1
Wolf Ludwig:Good points Carlton!
Glenn McKnight:The problem is the mandate of the reviewer. I assume they are looking at metrics and political realities is not in their mandate
Wolf Ludwig:But you need a *Basis* for adequate selections as well, Alan.
Alberto Soto:Thanks!! Bye all!!!
Glenn McKnight:@Careleton is trying to have a reality check on the drive to more accountable. I caution us that
Carlton Samuels:thank you all. Thanks especially to Alan, Wolf, Glenn, Vanda and Juan Manuel
Glenn McKnight:damn computer
Silvia Vivanco:Thank you all
Vanda:thank you to all. I need to leave bye and nice weekend to all
Wolf Ludwig:Good bye all!
Juan Manuel Rojas:bye all
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