Julia Charvolen:Welcome to the ATLAS 2 meeting on Tuesday 30 April 2013 at 1400 UTC
Julia Charvolen:https://community.icann.org/x/2Ql-Ag
baudouin schombe:hi I am online
baudouin schombe:hello at all
Gisella Gruber-White:Welcome to the ATLAS 2 Meeting on Tuesday 30 Apirl 2013 at 1400 UTC
Gisella Gruber-White:Agenda: https://community.icann.org/x/2Ql-Ag
baudouin schombe:thanks Gisella for agenda
Eduardo Diaz:¡Hola a Todos!
Nathalie Peregrine:Hola!
Tijani BEN JEMAA:Hi Nathalie
baudouin schombe:some technical problems
Tijani BEN JEMAA:can u plz tell adigo to call me?
Satish Babu:Hi everyone...!
Tijani BEN JEMAA:Hi Gisella
baudouin schombe:I don't hear anything
Nathalie Peregrine:Tijani, what number would you like us to dial?
Jordi Iparraguirre:hi everyone!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Hi
baudouin schombe:Bonjour Nathalie, difficile de suivre les echanges par adobe , tout sort entrecouper
Nathalie Peregrine:Baudouin, tu veux qu'on t'appelle?
Tijani BEN JEMAA:I'm already on the bridge
Tijani BEN JEMAA:thx Nathalie
Nathalie Peregrine:perfect!
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:dropped :-(
Nathalie Peregrine:dialling you back Olivier
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Dial Out?
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:yes please
Heidi Ullrich:Hello All
baudouin schombe:Nathalie can use following number +243813684512
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I'm back on...
Siranush Vardanyan:hello, everyone. My cal was disconnected, but can hear now here in the adobe space
Siranush Vardanyan:if needed will ask to dial out
Nathalie Peregrine:thanks Siranush
Siranush Vardanyan:no
Gisella Gruber-White:Nathalie is running the call for you today :-)
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:dropped AGAIN. One moment please as I restart my phone
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Hello All
Silvia Vivanco:Hello all
Fatima Cambronero:hello all
Eduardo Diaz:There is noise in the background
Heidi Ullrich:Olivier, Adigo is getting vm for you
Natalia Enciso:Hello, now on the AC as well
Roberto:review the revised?!?!
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:ok back
Sandra Hoferichter:Hi all!
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:shall we start?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Over to yiu OCL...
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:I'm here on the AC audio
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Over to you OCL
Eduardo Diaz:Why did we have to go to the PPC? What do they do?
Eduardo Diaz:Do they have a role in the approval of the budget?
Eduardo Diaz:THnak you for the explanation.
Siranush Vardanyan:yes
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Yes, we can scroll
Satish Babu:Yes
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I have trouble hearing Yaovi
Satish Babu:No audio...
Eduardo Diaz:YAovi is hard to understand. CAn some one re-state?
Nathalie Peregrine:Yaovi, are you using a speaker phone?
Yaovi Atohoun:27 instead of 27 June
Yaovi Atohoun:I am also disconnected
Yaovi Atohoun:instead of 2- as the end of the summit
Nathalie Peregrine:dialling you back
Satish Babu:I seem to have lost audio on AC...
Satish Babu:Got back the audio
Evan Leibovitch:hi there. just joined, I'm on the call now.
Nathalie Peregrine:Hello!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Hi Evan
Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Yes Edwardo Mentoring or Sun=ubject leads would be good
Heidi Ullrich:Excellent idea! Should I include that in the revised proposal?
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:yes please Heidi
Evan Leibovitch:I agree with Tijani. I think the final objectives of the summit are getting blurred. It's sounding more like the Academy
Eduardo Diaz:I think that the survey that will be put together will drive these plenaries and other meetings.
Evan Leibovitch:cheryl, did i hear you say you lost audio?
Nathalie Peregrine:Cheryl is still connected on the bridge
Nathalie Peregrine:and she's dropped, we're dialling her back
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:Hello All, I've only come online.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Hi JJS
Sandra Hoferichter:I propose to agree on an overarching theme for the summit, which gives a direction on what the output deal with
Sandra Hoferichter:discussing the what is the public interest could be a topic, we just started the discussion about it during the last ALAC / Board meeting
Eduardo Diaz:Darlene just mention what I was more or less going to say
Sandra Hoferichter:@ Darlene: The ACADEMY is much more than a leadershop training only
Eduardo Diaz:How are you going to understand policy issues if you do not ICANN work at all? You need some capacity building for the new ALAs in order to get them engaged in policy work.
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:irrelevant
Evan Leibovitch:So, Olivier, you're not asking about "what" .... rather than "how much time do we need"?
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:yes
Evan Leibovitch:To the objective of developing policy, the stages should be:
Evan Leibovitch:1) Introduce the people to each other
Evan Leibovitch:2) Find out the skills and interests of the participants
Evan Leibovitch:3) Introduce the issues that need attention
Evan Leibovitch:4) Immerse At-Large members in the subjects, inside broader ICANN, involving the other stakeholder groups
Evan Leibovitch:5) Churn policy
Heidi Ullrich:@Tijani/All, there will be various rooms available for At-Large Monday through Wednesday (including interpretation).
Sandra Hoferichter:Not during this call, but afterwards
Heidi Ullrich:There will not be extra rooms available (outside of the large plenary/working session) available on the weekend
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:Olivier...
Evan Leibovitch:That indicates a Summit that starts segregated from the rest of the meeting (and probably precedes it), then immerses its members within the ICANN meeting, then develops policy advice outcomes
Evan Leibovitch:BTW, I am uncomfortable with the wording of Purpose item #4. The Summit does not exist to make ICANN "look good". There should be a slight re-wording so that the publicity value of the Summit is implicit rather than explicit,
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:Evan +1
Heidi Ullrich:The budget is slightly revised - to add one extra night for the several normally fudned people to arrive on Friday night prior to the start of the summit
Eduardo Diaz:@Evan: Any suggestion as to the #4 rewording?
baudouin schombe:I think it would be practical it is also granted to the ALS to present their concerns during the show case. It is important that during the ATLAS II a consistent assessment is made.With a program that takes into account different problematic identified and proposed by ALS, it is possible to collect these problems that connaisent ALS in their regions and countries that may form the basis of data that must be updated at each step.
Evan Leibovitch:Not major.. perhaps as simple as change "Allow ICANN to showcase" to "maximize the effectiveness of"
Sandra Hoferichter:sorry
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:@Eduardo @Evan: something like "In an evolving global environment of Internet governance, it is important to defend and illustrate the multi-stakeholder model. In this sense, the concerns and perspective of the general Internet user needs to be highlited, and discussed in a more thorough way".
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:(need, not needs)
Heidi Ullrich:Tijanie, the large room could be broken into different spaces for small groups
Evan Leibovitch:+1Heidi. I have seen that done effectively elsewhere.
Eduardo Diaz:@jj +1
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:@Heidi - "to add one extra night for the several normally fudned people to arrive on Friday night prior to the start of the summit" - I don't understand, isn't this to add an extra night so that ALAC, regional leaders can attend the Friday 27 June 2014 ALAC wrap up meeting ?
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:@ Yaovi +1, when he underlines the importance of the common, community-wide sessions.
Eduardo Diaz: Yaovi - you sound like you are inside a box with to much reverberation. Hard to undersatnd. CAn some one restate please?
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Re: breaking room into different spaces - can work, however with the understanding that remote participation would not work
baudouin schombe:regarding the visa, it is desirable that ICANN provides all necessary to diplomatic representations of the UK information to facilitate the process of issuing visas.
Satish Babu:In my opinion, it may be better to defer discussions on details until later, and stick to the high-level concerns for the present...
Nathalie Peregrine:we're dialling you back Baudouin
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Dev we can think outside the AC box re break out and remote participation I think *althiugh AC doez have break out room capabilities there are planning and logistics issues we perhaps need to talk to verizon re that EARLY...
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:yes but local AV infrastructure may notsupport break-out
Evan Leibovitch:+1 @Roberto. Fadi has often talked about the lack of a multi-EQUAL-stakeholder model
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Well said Roberto
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:yes the Multi EQUAL model ;-)
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:@Cheryl - if everyone was in the AC room....perhaps, but the wider issue would be lack of interpretation in the different groups/spaces in the room and the difficulty of recording the breakout groups in one room
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:when I've done it the sacrifice IS to have a mix of language clusgtered groups or a local onsite speaker of languages helping in Chat mode
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:again this is weeds nio forest
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:yep
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:agreeed ;-)
Evan Leibovitch:Olivier - we haven't done metrixcs because it's clear we don't know what we're measuring.
Roberto:We can suggest metrics in the mailing list
Roberto:The mother of all measures: number of lines of code!
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:Yes: overarching "the global public interest" (this comes from a long way back now, we started in the President's Strategy Committee, AoC, ATRT, etc) and some areas where it can be developed (Internet rights, privacy rights...)
Roberto:@JJS +1
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:@ Cheryl +1 !
Eduardo Diaz:What is the role of the co-chairs?
Eduardo Diaz:What is the difference between a co-cjair and a vice-chair?
Yaovi Atohoun:Please call me back on +229 97891228
Eduardo Diaz:Thanks for the explanation
Nathalie Peregrine:dialling you back
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:I'll happy to be a co-chair
baudouin schombe:I propose that for the themes to serve the backbone of debates must first be discussed within RALO.
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:Olivier, Dev is willing to co-chair
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:I'll volunteer to be a co-chair, also
Eduardo Diaz:I could get through for some reason...
Eduardo Diaz:But I would like to co-chair/chair as it fits.
Fatima Cambronero:is it only for alac members?
Nathalie Peregrine:@Yaovi, there is no answer on the number you provided
Yaovi Atohoun:Please try the one you were using before
Nathalie Peregrine:we are doing so Yaovi
Heidi Ullrich:LOL - Cheryl! ;)
Siranush Vardanyan:Cheryl is the voice from all female
Siranush Vardanyan::)
Fatima Cambronero:I did a question here: is this position only for alac members?
Fatima Cambronero:chair I mean
Fatima Cambronero:co.chair sorry
Evan Leibovitch:I'm happy to serve, at a subcommittee level.
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:No Fatima, all possible
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:not only ALAC members
Eduardo Diaz:@Fatima: you can get involved in helping with this group
Fatima Cambronero:I will @Eduardo, thanks
Roberto:June 27 is in 2 months
Eduardo Diaz:same day and hour!
Eduardo Diaz:willl work great
Gisella Gruber-White:Tuesday 14 May at 1400 UTC?
Siranush Vardanyan:can we have dodle for timing
Gisella Gruber-White:We will send a Doodle poll out for Tuesday 14 May with a wide range of options!
Siranush Vardanyan:great:)
Siranush Vardanyan:thanks everyone, have a nice day
Yaovi Atohoun:bye
Sandra Hoferichter:bye! bye!
Fatima Cambronero:bye
Natalia Enciso:bye
Roberto:bye
baudouin schombe:bye bye
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:take care all, bye!
