Terri Agnew: (8/25/2015 18:51) Welcome to the ALAC Monthly Teleconference on Tuesday, 25 August 2015 at 19:00 UTC
  Terri Agnew: (18:51) meeting page: https://community.icann.org/x/opJCAw
  Heidi Ullrich: (19:37) Welcome, All!
  Daniel K. Nanghaka: (19:41) Thank you
  Daniel K. Nanghaka: (19:45) It seems am so early for the meeting
  Alan Greenberg: (19:47) TY
  Roosevelt King: (19:49) hello
  Roosevelt King: (19:49) ty
  Gisella Gruber: (19:49) Welcome all!
  Ron Sherwood: (19:53) Hi everybody
  Roosevelt King: (19:54) Seem to be having some connectivity challenges in Barbados...
  Eduardo Diaz: (19:56) Hola!
  Alan Greenberg: (19:57) Roosevelt, there seem to be connectivity challenges in most countries.  Rather discouraging actually.
  Siranush Vardanyan: (19:58) hello, everyone
  Allan Skuce: (19:59) Thanks. Greetings
  Glenn McKnight: (19:59) Hi All
  jimmy: (19:59) Hi all
  jimmy: (20:00) I´ll relogin for full name
  judith hellerstein: (20:00) HI Gisela welcome back from vacation
  Leon Sanchez: (20:00) Hello everyone
  VANDA: (20:02) hi everyone!!
  jimmy: (20:02) which didn´t work so Jimmy is in fact Jimmy Schulz
  jimmy: (20:02) ;-)
  sandra hoferichter: (20:02)  Hi all
  jimmy: (20:03) Hi Sandra
  Alberto Soto: (20:03) Hola a todos! Hello everyone!
  VANDA: (20:04) hola Alberto!
  Alberto Soto: (20:04) Olá Vanda!!
  Gisella Gruber: (20:07) Silvia Vivanco has joined the call
  Ariel Liang: (20:07) Internet Governance activities happening in Europe
  Ariel Liang: (20:07) https://community.icann.org/x/bwFO
  Ariel Liang: (20:08) https://community.icann.org/x/1IJCAw
  Ariel Liang: (20:09) https://community.icann.org/x/34tCAw
  Ariel Liang: (20:10) https://community.icann.org/x/a45CAw
  Gisella Gruber: (20:10) Dev Anand Teelucksingh has joinedtthe call
  Ariel Liang: (20:11) https://community.icann.org/x/bIJYAw
  VANDA: (20:11) welcome Dev
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (20:12) Hello all
  jimmy: (20:12) Hi Dev
  Glenn McKnight: (20:12) @Hi  Dev
  Glenn McKnight: (20:12) Hrad to hear   Siliva
  Leon Sanchez: (20:13) yay! I am not the only one with kids in the background!
  Eduardo Diaz: (20:13) I heard a baby (ja!)
  judith hellerstein: (20:13) it was heidi who was speaking
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (20:13) :-)
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (20:13) an unhappy cat
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (20:13) :-)
  judith hellerstein: (20:13) @dev you can talk about the template
  Glenn McKnight: (20:13) I think  so
  Gisella Gruber: (20:17) Theo Geurts has joined the call
  Heidi Ullrich: (20:21) Sorry, All. Sophia chose that exact moment to express her strong wish to stop at the library...
  Ariel Liang: (20:21) Armenian Script LGR Public Comment: https://community.icann.org/x/c4hCAw
  VANDA: (20:21) @ heidi - we had kids.. we can easily understand...
  Ariel Liang: (20:21) You may see the proposed statement in the comment section on that page
  Ariel Liang: (20:22) *proposed Statement by Narine
  Leon Sanchez: (20:22) I need to restart my computer but will remain in the phone bridge
  Leon Sanchez: (20:25) back in the AC room
  Gisella Gruber: (20:27) Nomsa Mwayenga has joined the call
  Gisella Gruber: (20:28) Wolf Ludwig has joined the call
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (20:29) agree with Olivier
  VANDA: (20:30) this third path I can support too. less complex
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (20:30) Re: Armenian Diaspora - this is merely stating facts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_diaspora
  VANDA: (20:31) @ olivier. I would like to hera from other ALS like Siranush
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (20:32) I do not know why there was an interest in saying something in Point 1. Was this missed in the report?
  Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (20:33) @Olivier, it looks like it was https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/proposal-armenian-script-root-zone-lgr-04jun15-en.pdf just from skimming the first few pages
  Maureen Hilyard: (20:34) I like the idea of putting it to the IDN group - they are tasked with looking at these issues before it comes to the ALAC
  Garth Graham: (20:34) The ALAC should remain open to suppoting comment, if it is requested to do so.
  Maureen Hilyard: (20:35) @Garth - agree but perhaps through an independent group first rather than bringing to to the ALAC through what is a personal perspective and doesn't have any endorsement or otherwise from other ALSes in Armenia
  VANDA: (20:36) @olivier - agree with this approach. need really to be careful...
  VANDA: (20:40) @ olivier  this make me worry
  Ariel Liang: (20:42) ICG Public Comment: https://community.icann.org/x/LY1CAw
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (20:47) In the event of an Operational Community reaching the decision to replace the IANA Functions Operator, they should discuss their decision with other Operational Communities prior to proceeding forward, seeking all ways to keep all of the IANA functions undertaken by a single IANA Functions Operator. A split resulting in IANA Functions being undertaken by more than one IANA Functions Operator would be likely to introduce instability. The ALAC therefore recommends that although no measures were introduced by the IANA Coordination Group to increase direct operational coordination between the Operational Communities, this should be promoted at Implementation Phase, with the aim to reduce the likelihood of a split in IANA Functions Operators. This direct operational coordination should take place as enhanced communication and continuous dialogue.
  Eduardo Diaz: (20:49) agree with Alan
  VANDA: (20:49) @eduardo +1
  Eduardo Diaz: (20:49) The IANA function will keep doing whta is set to do independently of the Trademark
  Leon Sanchez: (20:50) I will step away from the AC but will remain in the phone bridge
  Gisella Gruber: (20:50) Cheryl has joined the call
  Eduardo Diaz: (20:50) It is an issue that lawyers like to talk about
  VANDA: (20:50) hi Cheryl...
  Cheryl LangdonOrr: (20:51) finally here :-) :-) :-)  
  Cheryl LangdonOrr: (20:51) had to stay in the other CCWG. call to the end
  VANDA: (20:52) sure.. agree. quite relevant discussions
  Gisella Gruber: (20:52) Tijani Ben Jemaa sends his apology.
  Cheryl LangdonOrr: (20:52) I have limited equipment to work with ATM so limited to one call at the time !
  VANDA: (20:53) @alan - agree lets get Olivier states and we certainly will mostly agree.
  Cheryl LangdonOrr: (20:55) happy to support that text OCL
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (20:55) please comment on grammar ASAP
  Glenn McKnight: (20:55) sounds  logically
  VANDA: (20:56) agree with the statement.
  Avri Doria: (20:56) from left field: well put and it even includes the words enhanced cooperation.  how could one not love it.
  jimmy: (20:56) thats a point
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (20:58) Confirmation: First Draft now under "First Draft" Section of the WIKI: https://community.icann.org/display/alacpolicydev/At-Large+IANA+Stewardship+Transition+Proposal+Workspace
  Ariel Liang: (20:59) CCWG Accountability 2nd Draft Report: https://community.icann.org/x/a45CAw
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (20:59) Glenn you have a tick mark & are at the topc of the queue - is your hand up too?
  Glenn McKnight: (21:02) it  was  earlier  it's  ok
  Glenn McKnight: (21:02) iit was  a prviewoul  topic
  Glenn McKnight: (21:03) I was sidetracked  emailing  Heidi
  VANDA: (21:03) I beleive there is different concepts realted to users  and may be languages
  Garth Graham: (21:04) ALSs are surogates for the individual Internet user, NOT civil society
  Heidi Ullrich: (21:04) CS doc: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+ICANN+Civil+Society+Engagement+in+Fiscal+Year+2016+Workspace
  Heidi Ullrich: (21:05) comments welcome through 4 Sept.
  Alberto Soto: (21:05) @Alan, civil society, we will  discuss this issue in LACRALO
  judith hellerstein: (21:05) I am not sure I would call us civil society. We are more individual users
  VANDA: (21:05) @heidi. will do
  Avri Doria: (21:07) ALSes do seem to ver very civil society-ish.  as an individual, most people are part of civil society (we are all civil society when we are at home) and most of the ALSes themselves are non commercial
  Heidi Ullrich: (21:07) Thanks, Vanda.
  VANDA: (21:07) the languages may bring different views to civil society concept
  Heidi Ullrich: (21:08) This is a summary of the document introduced during ICANN 54
  Heidi Ullrich: (21:08) 53 that is
  Garth Graham: (21:08) @Avri: to me civil society is a construct created by govt's and business for doing what they don't want to.
  Ariel Liang: (21:09) At-Large Working Groups: https://community.icann.org/x/loIi
  Heidi Ullrich: (21:09) @CLO, you noted the need for a venn diagream to show how the various constituencies might fit into civil society...
  Glenn McKnight: (21:09) Lots of  names  on these lists   but most are not active
  judith hellerstein: (21:10) What about the CCWG's
  judith hellerstein: (21:10) There is a CCWG for Internet Governance
  Glenn McKnight: (21:10) I don't think new  ALS  are  properly engaged on this  being part of working grups
  judith hellerstein: (21:10) this has been very active
  Cheryl LangdonOrr: (21:12) Metrics might be be r described as "Paused.  or On Hold"
  jimmy: (21:12) What is the difference between the standing WG "Technical issues" and the ad hoc "Technology task force" ?
  judith hellerstein: (21:13) @jimmy good point.  I think technical issues relate to gtlds while the tech task force relates to technology issues
  Heidi Ullrich: (21:13) @Jimmy, the Technical Issues WG looked at technical issues related to ICANN policy issues. The TTF looks at technical tools to assess them for use by At-Large.
  Cheryl LangdonOrr: (21:17) kill and bury it
  Avri Doria: (21:17) besides NCSG can be a pain in the neck.
  Cheryl LangdonOrr: (21:18) :-) :-) :-)  yup Avri it can indeed :-) :-) :-)
  Maureen Hilyard: (21:18) @Avri  LOL
  jimmy: (21:21) @judith & @ Heidi THX
  judith hellerstein: (21:21) Sorry where does the CCWG parts go
  Glenn McKnight: (21:22) Some  are  situational or temporal by nature
  VANDA: (21:23) we have regional strategy working groups to design different projects or keep the projects done  and I believe other regions also have that.  they are regional cross contituencies WG
  judith hellerstein: (21:23) @heidi or @staff where do the CCWG's go on that chart. I missed that point
  sandra hoferichter: (21:25) will the excel be shared by email?
  Sébastien (ALAC): (21:25) Is it meetings for the whole ALAC? Or with sub-groups?
  jimmy: (21:25) doodle?
  sandra hoferichter: (21:25) okay thanks
  judith hellerstein: (21:25) Yes, email is better
  Heidi Ullrich: (21:25) @Judith, the CCWG are currently on the WG portal - https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Working+Groups (at the bottom)
  Heidi Ullrich: (21:26) However, there is an AI for staff on increasing the clarity of the CCWG.
  jimmy: (21:26) let staff decide
  judith hellerstein: (21:26) Thanks
  Heidi Ullrich: (21:26) Would a survey monkey survey be useful for the presentation prioritization?
  judith hellerstein: (21:27) Or if they provide useful info
  Maureen Hilyard: (21:27) Do these  guests ask to speak to us about what is on top for them, or do we ask them to come along?
  judith hellerstein: (21:27) I think Xavier and Carole Cornell were pretty good
  judith hellerstein: (21:27) in Singapore
  Alberto Soto: (21:27) @Alan, thanks
  Leon Sanchez: (21:27) @Alberto meetings should be aimed to either advance in common substantive issues or get updates on substantive issues from other constituencies
  Heidi Ullrich: (21:28) @Maureen, generally it is both. Some ask to speak to At-Large and the ALAC asks some to speak to them.
  judith hellerstein: (21:28) Also liked Laura Bengford
  Alberto Soto: (21:28) @Leon, thanks
  Heidi Ullrich: (21:30) Ariel will be able to quicky set up a SurveyMonkey questionnaire
  jimmy: (21:31) Thats what I thaought. It might be easier to handle with one central Questionaire than a couple of excle files.
  Ariel Liang: (21:31) @Jimmy agreed
  VANDA: (21:31) @jimmy - agree
  Leon Sanchez: (21:32) we can
  jimmy: (21:32) yes
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (21:32) WELCOME BACK GISELLA!!!!!!! /6° /6° /6°
  Olivier Crepin-Leblond: (21:32) :-) :-) :-)
  Heidi Ullrich: (21:32) Indeed, Olivier!!!
  Heidi Ullrich: (21:32) 51 days to Dublin....
  jimmy: (21:33) Gala:-)
  Heidi Ullrich: (21:34) Please note that EURALO will be holding their General Assembly in Dublin.
  judith hellerstein: (21:34) Are they also having a showcase
  Heidi Ullrich: (21:34) The Gala will be a taste of Ireland.
  Heidi Ullrich: (21:34) @Judith, EURALO will be having a networking event.
  Heidi Ullrich: (21:34) The theme will be the Public Interest.
  jimmy: (21:35) on Monday night?
  judith hellerstein: (21:35) Will there be a music night?
  Gisella Gruber: (21:35) Gala on Monday evening
  Gisella Gruber: (21:35) Music night - not confirmed and unlikely
  jimmy: (21:35) EURALO laso on Monday night?
  Heidi Ullrich: (21:35) The gala will be on Monday. The EURALO networking event will be on Wednesday. No music night
  jimmy: (21:35) also
  Maureen Hilyard: (21:35) @Judith In any pub in Dublin I would say Judith.. evry night!
  Allan Skuce: (21:36) Thanks, Bye
  Ariel Liang: (21:36) Thanks all bye
  judith hellerstein: (21:36) That leaves Tuesday for ISOC @icann
  Alberto Soto: (21:37) Thanks to all!!!
  Glenn McKnight: (21:37) bye
  VANDA: (21:37) thanks to all
  Maureen Hilyard: (21:37) Bye all
  jimmy: (21:37) THX and bye
  sandra hoferichter: (21:37) bye all!
  Daniel K. Nanghaka: (21:37) Bye
  Ron Sherwood: (21:37) Thank you all... bye
  Roosevelt King: (21:37) Bye all.
  Heidi Ullrich: (21:37) Bye!
  Cheryl LangdonOrr: (21:37) bye
  Gisella Gruber: (21:37) Thank you all!
  Gisella Gruber: (21:37) Have a good morning, afternoon or evening

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