Date: Wednesday, 24 November 2021
Time: 13:00 - 14:30 UTC (for the time in various time zones click here)
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English Conference ID = 1638
Spanish Conference ID = 1738
French Conference ID = 1838
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Action Items: EN
Recording: EN, ES, FR
Zoom Recording: EN
Zoom Chat: EN
Participants:
EN: Olivier Crépin-Leblond, Jonathan Zuck, Jose Lebron, Justine Chew, Bill Jouris, Cheryl Langdon-Orr, Claire Craig, Gordon Chillcott, Steinar Grøtterød, Yrjö Länsipuro, Raymond Mamattah, Satish Babu, Dave Kissoondoyal, Hadia Elminiawi, Alan Greenberg, Amrita Choudhury, Avri Doria, Carlos Dionisio Aguirre, Daniel Nanghaka, Marita Moll, Chokri Ben Romdhane, Ejikeme Egbougu, Frank Anati, Isaac Maposa, Lianna Galstyan, Roberto Gaetano, Sarah Kiden, Alfredo Lopez, Doracrisan, Hanan Khatib, Vernatius Ezeama, John McCormac, Alfredo Calderon
ES:Augusto Ho
FR: Anne-Marie Joly-Bachollet
Apologies: Harold Arcos, Gopal Tadepalli, Priyatosh Jana, Sébastien Bachollet, Holly Raiche, Judith Hellerstein, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy, Christopher Wilkinson, Abdulkarim Oloyede
Observer: Herb Waye
Staff: Heidi Ullrich, Evin Erdoğdu, Emily Barabas, Yeşim Sağlam
ES Interpreters: Lilian & Marina
FR Interpreters: Claire & Jacques
Call Management: Yeşim Sağlam
AGENDA
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English (EN)
1. Welcome and intro - staff (2 minutes)
2. Adoption of agenda, review of Action Items from 17 November - Olivier Crépin-Leblond (3 minutes)
3. Board Advice - Status Update and ALAC/At-Large Process - Olivier Crépin-Leblond and Jonathan Zuck (25 mins)
- ALAC Advice to ICANN Board on EPDP Phase 2 - Alan Greenberg and Hadia El Miniawi
- ALAC Advice to the ICANN Board on Subsequent Procedures - Justine Chew
4. Presentation and Q&A on Expedited Policy Development Process (EPDP) on the Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs) - Satish Babu, Lianna Galstyan and Abdulkarim Oloyede (30 minutes)
5. Presentation on At-Large Registration Data Accuracy (RDA) Scoping Team - Alan Greenberg (20 minutes)
6. Workgroup updates
At-Large Workspace: Transfer Policy Review Policy Development Process (PDP) & GNSO Workspace: Transfer Policy Review Policy Development Process (PDP) (10 minutes)
At-Large Representatives
ALAC Members: Steinar Grøtterød and Daniel Nanghaka
ALAC Alternates: Raymond Mamattah and Lutz Donnerhacke
ALAC Observers: Chokri Ben Romdhane, Hans Bathija, K Mohan Raidu, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
See: Losing FOA Working Document, Auth-Info Codes Working Document and Additional Security Measures
At-Large Representatives
ALAC Members: Yrjö Lansipuro and Carlos Raul Gutierrez
ALAC Alternates: Justine Chew and Vanda Scartezini
ALAC Observers: N/A
At-Large Representatives
ALAC Members: Hadia Elminiawi and Alan Greenberg
ALAC Alternate: Holly Raiche
ALAC Observers: Bastiaan Goslings, Kris Seeburn, Isaac Maposa, Eduardo Diaz, Gladys Maldonado, Yrjö Lansipuro, Olivier Crépin-Leblond, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy, Matthias Hudobnik, Alfredo Calderon, Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong, Antonio Medina Gómez, Ryan Finnesey, Jahangir Hossain, Oluwaseun Ajani
At-Large Workspace: Expedited Policy Development Process (EPDP) on the Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs) & GNSO Workspace: Expedited Policy Development Process (EPDP) on the Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs) (30 minutes - featured presentation)
At-Large Representatives
ALAC Members: Satish Babu, Lianna Galstyan and Abdulkarim Oloyede
ALAC Participants: Justine Chew and Hadia Elminiawi
At-Large Workspace: Registration Data Accuracy (RDA) Scoping Team & GNSO Workspace: Registration Data Accuracy (RDA) Scoping Team TBD (20 minutes - featured presentation)
At-Large Representatives
ALAC Member: Alan Greenberg
ALAC Alternate: Hadia Elminiawi
6. Policy comment updates - Jonathan Zuck, Evin Erdoğdu, drafting team member(s) and all (10 minutes)
Upcoming Public Comment Proceedings
Proposal for Myanmar Script Root Zone Label Generation Rules (LGR) CPWG
The Myanmar script community has formed the Myanmar script Generation Panel (GP), which in turn has developed the Proposal for the Myanmar Script Root Zone Label Generation Rules. As per the LGR Procedure, this proposal is being posted for public comments to allow those who have not participated in the Myanmar script GP to make their views known to the GP. Based on the feedback, the Myanmar script GP will finalize the proposal for submission for integration into the Label Generation Rules for the Root Zone.
ICANN Draft FY23-27 Operating and Financial Plan and Draft FY23 Operating Plan and Budget OFB-WG
The purpose of this Public Comment is to seek community input on ICANN's Draft FY23-27 Operating and Financial Plan and Draft FY23 Operating Plan and Budget.
NCAP Study 2: Impact and Data Sensitivity Analysis CPWG
The Impact and Data Sensitivity Analysis is a part of the Name Collision Analysis Project (NCAP) Discussion Group's work to produce a Study 2 report. The NCAP Discussion Group will consider the results of the Public Comment proceeding as it develops its draft report, expected to be published for Public Comment in March 2022.
Statement Name |
Deadline |
Status |
Assigned Working Group | Penholder(s) |
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N/A |
TBC |
TBC |
CPWG |
Drafting team member(s): TBC |
7. Any other business (AOB) - Olivier Crépin-Leblond and all (3 minutes)
- If you were unable to join the latest System for Standardized Access/Disclosure (SSAD) Operational Design Phase (ODP) Project Update webinar, the video and audio recordings are now available here: https://go.icann.org/3khvDG4
8. Next Meeting - Olivier Crépin-Leblond and staff (2 minutes)
- CPWG meetings are held weekly on Wednesdays, at rotating times of 13 & 19 UTC
CPWG Resources
Español (ES)
1. Bienvenida y asistencia - staff (2 minutos)
2. Adopcion de la Agenda, revision de los Acciones a partir del 17 de noviembre - Olivier Crépin-Leblond (3 minutos)
3. Presentación sobre el proceso acelerado de elaboración de políticas (EPDP) sobre los nombres de dominio internacionalizados (IDN): Satish Babu, Lianna Galstyan y Abdulkarim Oloyede (30 minutos)
4. Actualizaciones del grupo de trabajo:
At-Large Workspace: Transfer Policy Review Policy Development Process (PDP) & GNSO Workspace: Transfer Policy Review Policy Development Process (PDP) (10 minutos)
At-Large Representatives
ALAC Members: Steinar Grøtterød and Daniel Nanghaka (apology)
ALAC Alternates: Raymond Mamattah and Lutz Donnerhacke
ALAC Observers: Chokri Ben Romdhane, Hans Bathija, K Mohan Raidu, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
Ver: Documento de trabajo de códigos de información de autenticación
At-Large Workspace: EPDP Specific Curative Rights Protections for IGOs (ex Work Track) & GNSO Workspace: EPDP Specific Curative Rights Protections for IGOs (ex Work Track) (10 minutos)
At-Large Representatives
ALAC Members: Yrjö Lansipuro and Carlos Raul Gutierrez
ALAC Alternates: Justine Chew and Vanda Scartezini
ALAC Observers: N/A
At-Large Workspace: Expedited Policy Development Process (EPDP) on the Temporary Specification for gTLD Registration Data & GNSO Workspace: Expedited Policy Development Process (EPDP) on the Temporary Specification for gTLD Registration Data (10 minutos)
At-Large Representatives
ALAC Members: Hadia Elminiawi and Alan Greenberg
ALAC Alternate: Holly Raiche
ALAC Observers: Bastiaan Goslings, Kris Seeburn, Isaac Maposa, Eduardo Diaz, Gladys Maldonado, Yrjö Lansipuro, Olivier Crépin-Leblond, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy, Matthias Hudobnik, Alfredo Calderon, Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong, Antonio Medina Gómez, Ryan Finnesey, Jahangir Hossain, Oluwaseun Ajani
At-Large Workspace: Expedited Policy Development Process (EPDP) on the Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs) & GNSO Workspace: Expedited Policy Development Process (EPDP) on the Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs) (10 minutos)
At-Large Representatives
ALAC Members: Satish Babu, Lianna Galstyan and Abdulkarim Oloyede
ALAC Participants: Justine Chew, Hadia Elminiawi, Gopal Tadepalli
At-Large Registration Data Accuracy (RDA) Scoping Team Workspace & GNSO Registration Data Accuracy (RDA) Scoping Team Workspace TBD (10 minutes)
At-Large Representatives
ALAC Member: Alan Greenberg
ALAC Alternate: Hadia Elminiawi
5. Actualizaciones de comentarios sobre políticas - Jonathan Zuck, Evin Erdoğdu, miembro (s) del equipo de redacción y todos (20 minutos)
Recientemente Ratificados por el ALAC
- Ninguno
Próximos Procedimientos de Comentarios Públicos
Proposal for Myanmar Script Root Zone Label Generation Rules (LGR) CPWG
The Myanmar script community has formed the Myanmar script Generation Panel (GP), which in turn has developed the Proposal for the Myanmar Script Root Zone Label Generation Rules. As per the LGR Procedure, this proposal is being posted for public comments to allow those who have not participated in the Myanmar script GP to make their views known to the GP. Based on the feedback, the Myanmar script GP will finalize the proposal for submission for integration into the Label Generation Rules for the Root Zone.
ICANN Draft FY23-27 Operating and Financial Plan and Draft FY23 Operating Plan and Budget OFB-WG
The purpose of this Public Comment is to seek community input on ICANN's Draft FY23-27 Operating and Financial Plan and Draft FY23 Operating Plan and Budget.
NCAP Study 2: Impact and Data Sensitivity Analysis CPWG
The Impact and Data Sensitivity Analysis is a part of the Name Collision Analysis Project (NCAP) Discussion Group's work to produce a Study 2 report. The NCAP Discussion Group will consider the results of the Public Comment proceeding as it develops its draft report, expected to be published for Public Comment in March 2022.
Comentarios Publicos para decision
Ninguno
Declaracion actual (Consejo del ALAC, Comentario o Correspondencia)
Nombre del Comentario Público |
Comentarios del Público Cerrar |
Estado |
Grupo de Trabajo Asignado | Autor(es) |
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Proposal for Latin Script Root Zone Label Generation Rules |
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DRAFTING |
CPWG |
6. Otros temas (AOB) - Olivier Crépin-Leblond y todos (3 minutos)
7. Próxima reunion - Olivier Crépin-Leblond y staff (2 minutos)
- Las reuniones del CPWG se llevan a cabo semanalmente los miércoles, en horarios rotativos de 13 y 19 UTC.
CPWG Resources
Français (FR)
1. Accueil et appel nominal - personnel (2 minutes)
2. Adoption de l'ordre du jour, examen des points d'action à partir du 17 novembre - Olivier Crépin-Leblond (3 minutes)
3. Présentation sur le processus accéléré d'élaboration de politiques (EPDP) sur les noms de domaine internationalisés (IDN) - Satish Babu, Lianna Galstyan et Abdulkarim Oloyede (30 minutes)
4. Mises à jour du groupe de travail:
At-Large Workspace: Transfer Policy Review Policy Development Process (PDP) & GNSO Workspace: Transfer Policy Review Policy Development Process (PDP) (10 minutes)
At-Large Representatives
ALAC Members: Steinar Grøtterød and Daniel Nanghaka (apology)
ALAC Alternates: Raymond Mamattah and Lutz Donnerhacke
ALAC Observers: Chokri Ben Romdhane, Hans Bathija, K Mohan Raidu, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
At-Large Workspace: EPDP Specific Curative Rights Protections for IGOs (ex Work Track) & GNSO Workspace: EPDP Specific Curative Rights Protections for IGOs (ex Work Track) (10 minutes)
At-Large Representatives
ALAC Members: Yrjö Lansipuro and Carlos Raul Gutierrez
ALAC Alternates: Justine Chew and Vanda Scartezini
ALAC Observers: N/A
At-Large Workspace: Expedited Policy Development Process (EPDP) on the Temporary Specification for gTLD Registration Data & GNSO Workspace: Expedited Policy Development Process (EPDP) on the Temporary Specification for gTLD Registration Data (10 minutes)
At-Large Representatives
ALAC Members: Hadia Elminiawi and Alan Greenberg
ALAC Alternate: Holly Raiche
ALAC Observers: Bastiaan Goslings, Kris Seeburn, Isaac Maposa, Eduardo Diaz, Gladys Maldonado, Yrjö Lansipuro, Olivier Crépin-Leblond, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy, Matthias Hudobnik, Alfredo Calderon, Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong, Antonio Medina Gómez, Ryan Finnesey, Jahangir Hossain, Oluwaseun Ajani
At-Large Workspace: Expedited Policy Development Process (EPDP) on the Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs) & GNSO Workspace: Expedited Policy Development Process (EPDP) on the Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs) (10 minutes)
At-Large Representatives
ALAC Members: Satish Babu, Lianna Galstyan and Abdulkarim Oloyede
ALAC Participants: Justine Chew, Hadia Elminiawi, Gopal Tadepalli
At-Large Registration Data Accuracy (RDA) Scoping Team Workspace & GNSO Registration Data Accuracy (RDA) Scoping Team Workspace TBD (10 minutes)
At-Large Representatives
ALAC Member: Alan Greenberg
ALAC Alternate: Hadia Elminiawi
5. Mises à jour des commentaires sur la politique - Jonathan Zuck, Evin Erdoğdu, membre (s) de l'équipe de rédaction et tous (15 minutes)
- Non
Prochaines Procédures de Commentaires Publics
Proposal for Myanmar Script Root Zone Label Generation Rules (LGR) CPWG
The Myanmar script community has formed the Myanmar script Generation Panel (GP), which in turn has developed the Proposal for the Myanmar Script Root Zone Label Generation Rules. As per the LGR Procedure, this proposal is being posted for public comments to allow those who have not participated in the Myanmar script GP to make their views known to the GP. Based on the feedback, the Myanmar script GP will finalize the proposal for submission for integration into the Label Generation Rules for the Root Zone.
ICANN Draft FY23-27 Operating and Financial Plan and Draft FY23 Operating Plan and Budget OFB-WG
The purpose of this Public Comment is to seek community input on ICANN's Draft FY23-27 Operating and Financial Plan and Draft FY23 Operating Plan and Budget.
NCAP Study 2: Impact and Data Sensitivity Analysis CPWG
The Impact and Data Sensitivity Analysis is a part of the Name Collision Analysis Project (NCAP) Discussion Group's work to produce a Study 2 report. The NCAP Discussion Group will consider the results of the Public Comment proceeding as it develops its draft report, expected to be published for Public Comment in March 2022.
Commentaire public pour décision
Non
Déclarations actuelles (avis, commentaires ou correspondance de l'ALAC)
Nom du commentaire public |
Commentaire public Fermer |
Statut |
Groupe de travail assigné | Auteur(s) |
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DRAFTING |
CPWG |
6. Toute autre affaire (AOB) - Olivier Crépin-Leblond et tous (3 minutes)
7. Prochaine réunion - Olivier Crépin-Leblond et le personnel (2 minutes)
- Les réunions du CPWG ont lieu chaque semaine le mercredi, à des heures de rotation de 13 et 19 UTC.
2 Comments
Gopal Tadepalli
Due to personal reasons, I am not attending this meeting on 24 November 2021 and my regret is on ICANN records with due acknowledgements.
Polling is a tool, and it is seldom a principle.
In theory one can go for an opinion poll on the query "Instead of 60 days can we have": a) 49.568 days b) 20 days c) 51 to 60 days. This is just an example to illustrate.
In large heterogenous systems like the most coveted "One Internet Ideology", we can find some justification for all the three numbers above if it is imperative. There are very good and sensible pollsters as well. It is the sheer respect for polling as a tool that makes us concerned about the many things being done in its name.
On many issues any given sample usually does not have fully formed and unambiguous views. That does not mean there is anything wrong with the given sample. Poll accords legitimacy to move forward to the next step even though it may not be correct. Iteration and the number of iterations in large heterogenous systems is both cumbersome and can quickly become unwieldy with "polling" as the only tool. This is more true for systemically interrelated issues.
Also in any given sample, each one is typically more concerned with some issue than others, and it is very likely that one is not continuously engaged with any given issue.
We need to bank on Focus Groups and / or working groups and in a lighter vein adapt President Ronald Reagan’s “trust but verify” rule.
Samuel Popkin wrote a good book on 'The Reasoning Voter" in the context of the Presidential Polls.
We are not scaling to this level in ICANN and we take polls with excellent focus.
Popkin insists, not because being insufficiently educated, informed, or motivated but because “Ambivalence is simply an immutable fact of life” all poll results come packaged in a heap of salt.
No! this 'salt' is not the hardware integration with the encrypted password in UNIX like systems.
Gopal Tadepalli
Jonathan Zuck
“More has happened here today than meets the eye. An infrastructure has been created for a hierarchical security system, which can be purposed and re‐purposed in a number of different ways. ..” – Vint Cerf, June 2010
It has been my pleasure interacting with Vinton Cerf in-person during the ACM India Council Annual Meet held at Chennai during 24 and 25 January 2013.
Some years back, I began working on the DNS Protocol Security Weaknesses that can result in the following types of DNS Attacks.
Several of them manifest as DNS Abuse that is being monitored. The scope of the opportunities that the various types of DNS attacks provide to hackers gives many handles in studying the vulnerabilities of the DNS Ecosystem as a whole. Punycode adds a new dimension altogether.
Another related issue is the ongoing mailing list discussion thread on "Transfer Policy Review Team" @ Steinar Grøtterød.
Several of the historical RFC documents have been helpful. It is one my unfinished works to map the RFC to the attacks and Vulnerabilities.
It is becoming increasingly (if not arbitrarily) difficult to differentiate "Abuse (Malicious) Domain" from a "Misused (Exploited) Domain".
Please note that this is just a set of thoughts to share with all of you who are in the team of a DNS Abuse document being prepared by Jonathan Zuck.