Nathalie Peregrine: (9/8/2014 15:33) Dear all, welcome to the Joint Accessibility/ Technology Taskfore call on the 8th September 2014
Nathalie Peregrine: (15:34) Agenda page: https://community.icann.org/x/HwnxAg
Sylvia Herlein: (15:55) Hello everybody. I'll only in Adobe
Joly MacFie: (15:58) Just setting up m y mic
CFITechnician Brian: (15:58) Can you please make me a host?
CFITechnician Brian: (15:58) Presenters cannot configure the caption pod.
Joly MacFie: (16:00) going away to reset
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (16:00) Hello everyone
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (16:00) Hello Everyone
Glenn McKnight: (16:02) Judith is joining us
judith hellerstein: (16:03) Sorry I am late. My email said ti was at 11am and not 10am
Glenn McKnight: (16:04) just starting
silvia.vivanco@icann.org: (16:05) Hello all
judith hellerstein: (16:06) I was also instrumental in arranging this
silvia.vivanco@icann.org: (16:06) Yes Judith, your contributions are much appreciated
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (16:06) Hello everyone
Sylvia Herlein: (16:07) hello all
Gunela Astbrink: (16:07) Hi everyone
Glenn McKnight: (16:07) @Judith you were very instrumental in this presesentation
Gunela Astbrink: (16:07) I have seen CaptionFirst's work in many international fora.
Glenn McKnight: (16:08) Hi Gunella
judith hellerstein: (16:08) Hi Gunella
Gunela Astbrink: (16:08) @Thanks Judy for your suggestions
Gunela Astbrink: (16:08) Hi Glenn and Judy
Glenn McKnight: (16:08) @Gunella your IGF sessioin last week was using Captions first
Glenn McKnight: (16:08) @Judith and Gunella I created a Google doc for your feedback
Gunela Astbrink: (16:08) Yes, I come across CaptionsFirst many times
judith hellerstein: (16:09) Caption first does many igf and itu events
Gunela Astbrink: (16:11) And CaptionFirst did captioning for an ISOC conference call
Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:12) is the backend linking URL based?
judith hellerstein: (16:12) Andrea Saks was instrumental in organizing in getting the captioning on the IGF and ITU events
Joly MacFie: (16:12) swf = flash
Joly MacFie: (16:13) Is that readable by screen readers?
Glenn McKnight: (16:13) @Joly any concerns for Linux or MAC?
Glenn McKnight: (16:14) @Gordon is running lInux any issues?
Murray McKercher: (16:14) i am seeing text
Nathalie Peregrine: (16:14) Yes
Gordon Chillcott: (16:14) @Glenn - no issues so far.
judith hellerstein: (16:14) Yes the text is flowing
Gunela Astbrink: (16:14) All the multi-modalities are tough for blind people - another big issue
Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:14) And users are able to pick their own color style. Very nice
Murray McKercher: (16:15) great idea for accessability issues :)
Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:16) Question @ Pat - Is there a related URL for users who may not have access to adobe connect? or in a situation where i want to display this text on a screen seperately?
Nathalie Peregrine: (16:16) Please remember to state your names before speasking, for the transcription
Murray McKercher: (16:17) If I am supporting three languages, how would the translation work,m and do understand goggle translate is not perfect, so live translation would be on different channels?
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (16:17) Just a reminder - to say your name before speaking. I assume Joly is asking questions ?
judith hellerstein: (16:18) They can bring in a captioner who speaks other lagnuages for those channels that are spanish/french
Murray McKercher: (16:18) @judith thanks
judith hellerstein: (16:19) They can do Spanish for all calls but I think French requires them to find a captioner
Joly MacFie: (16:19) Yes Dev
Murray McKercher: (16:20) For Chinese translation can captioning go from right to left?
Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:22) thank you Dev
CFITechnician Brian: (16:22) You can view the text outside of the meeting here: https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANNDemo
Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:22) ok thanks Brian
CFITechnician Brian: (16:23) https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANNDemo
Murray McKercher: (16:23) sorry no voice
Murray McKercher: (16:23) thanks
Glenn McKnight: (16:25) @ Silvia can you speak spanish for the test
Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:25) This is a Live Captioner to comfirm - not automated captioning?
Nathalie Peregrine: (16:26) yes Josh LIVE
Joly MacFie: (16:26) arabic goes right to left too
Murray McKercher: (16:26) Also DEV re low bandwidth, this is a very important issue, thanks for keeping this issue front and centre
judith hellerstein: (16:26) right now it is a live transcriber
Nathalie Peregrine: (16:26) Heather - Captioner, in the hosts
Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:26) thanks, I just wanted to make sure that was clear
Nathalie Peregrine: (16:27) no problrm
Murray McKercher: (16:27) Despite my critique, this a great add-on to the AC experience :)
Gunela Astbrink: (16:29) My screen isn't grayed out
judith hellerstein: (16:30) Pat can you talk about the option for having an additional translator and for the call to be transcribed by 2 different cpationers
judith hellerstein: (16:30) in English and in Spanish
Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:33) This really gets back to the issue of setting up seperate language adobe connect rooms
Nathalie Peregrine: (16:33) We would organise the AC room differently depending on languages required
Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:35) @ Pat - Can you explain why AC9 pod is running in short paragraphs? vs the Caption pod that is running long lines? is that the biggest difference?
Glenn McKnight: (16:36) @Dev will i you ask the AC questions
judith hellerstein: (16:36) @josh yes because the AC9 pod works by sentence and the caption stream works by words
Joly MacFie: (16:36) https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANNDemo
CFITechnician Brian: (16:36) https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANNDemo
Murray McKercher: (16:37) This looks familiar as I experienced this during the IGF meeting recently
Joly MacFie: (16:38) Yes Brian I can see it work with two browser windows fine.
Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:38) @ yes - they could have seperate URLS
Nathalie Peregrine: (16:39) we have audio channels per language
Nathalie Peregrine: (16:39) an EN, ES, FR audio bridges
Nathalie Peregrine: (16:39) the captioner in ES could then dial into the ES bridge to hear the Spanigh directly
silvia.vivanco@icann.org: (16:40) We have several language channels correct
Joly MacFie: (16:40) there would be separate pods Judith.
CFITechnician Brian: (16:40) https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANNDemo
Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:41) @ All - ideally if you are doing seperate languages to this level, you would create adobe connect rooms in their respective languages like was done at NETmundial.
Murray McKercher: (16:41) Looks great, I will have to leave this call for another, thanks to the presenters...
Nathalie Peregrine: (16:42) French is average, mistakes but not glaring one
silvia.vivanco@icann.org: (16:42) We have 2 FR speaking testing it now
CFITechnician Brian: (16:42) Thank you Murray.
silvia.vivanco@icann.org: (16:42) I can test Spanish
silvia.vivanco@icann.org: (16:42) when available
Nathalie Peregrine: (16:42) It is unfortunate we talk about pods, as they translate into garlic head in French.
Nathalie Peregrine: (16:43) :)
Joly MacFie: (16:43) :)
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (16:43) :-)
Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:43) @ pat agreed.
judith hellerstein: (16:43) Thanks Pat!!
Gunela Astbrink: (16:44) Captionstream is much easier to follow
Glenn McKnight: (16:45) Yes i am viewing it too
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (16:45) No, the URL makes it available : eg https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANNDemo&language=fr
Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:46) I would be very leary of doing the translations to the greater community via google translate due to the lack of accuracy. at least until the technology continues to improve.
Nathalie Peregrine: (16:46) Josh is on listen only
Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:46) unfortantly I cannot, as i am sitting in the board meeting right now
Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:48) this is very nice though, i am happy to see the Caption pod. . . much better then the AC pod
Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:48) but remember you can Save the transcript too
Gunela Astbrink: (16:49) Nice feature with find
Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:49) yeah, very nice
Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:49) very useful for the community
judith hellerstein: (16:49) Yes. That is why we wanted to test it and showcase it all
judith hellerstein: (16:51) When Glenn and I waned to do the demo we liked the caption stream pod better
Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:51) @ glen - for pricing, so there is a cost for the streaming per min, plus the cost of the captioner, so how much would an hour call cost? (if this is approriate to ask)
judith hellerstein: (16:51) Pat sad it was 130 an hour
Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:52) so the english stream is included in the $130?
Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:52) thats great, no problem
judith hellerstein: (16:52) What is the cost of a second transcriber
Joly MacFie: (16:53) Good question Dev.
Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:53) @ Dev, they would be able to use the URL
Dev Anand Teelucksingh (mobile): (16:53) true
Joly MacFie: (16:54) Fire up the app and test anyone?
CFITechnician Brian: (16:54) https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANNDemo&language=en here is the URL again if anyone would like to test it
Josh Baulch - ICANN: (16:54) Understood, thank you for the info
Joly MacFie: (16:54) You'd need a translator too Judith
CFITechnician Brian: (16:54) addtinally, i am happy to email it to you if you provide your email address
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (16:55) FYI, Adobe Connect ioS app shows unsupported content for the pod
Joly MacFie: (16:55) Thanks Dev
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (16:55) but as Josh says, the URL would work
silvia.vivanco@icann.org: (16:56) This was very interesting and useful
silvia.vivanco@icann.org: (16:56) thank you for the demo
judith hellerstein: (16:59) Actually you had said they were 18 an hour with the discount
Gunela Astbrink: (16:59) Thank you for the demo - that's great
judith hellerstein: (16:59) Glad everyone liked it, which is why we were pressing for it to be demoed
Glenn McKnight: (16:59) thanks
Yasuichi Kitamura (ISOC-JP): (16:59) Thank you. bye bye.
judith hellerstein: (16:59) bye
Gordon Chillcott: (16:59) Thank you.
Gunela Astbrink: (16:59) Bye
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (17:00) Thanks all
Nathalie Peregrine: (17:00) The AC recording of the demo will be posted on the Agenda page
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (17:00) bye
