Terri Agnew:Welcome to the At-Large Ad-hoc WG on IANA Transition & ICANN Accountability held on Thursday, 22 September 2016 at 12:00 UTC
Terri Agnew:agenda wiki page: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_fwS4Aw&d=DQICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=oXDhBewhR0aqbsT9vsp_LfYSc8nNd1CHTNINf2WWR7A&s=5vp6oEknqfFflqnIYsFs-YxN01llhbQh_4LVDG8gxTw&e=
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:Hello All!
Tatiana Tropina:Hi all!
Terri Agnew:Welcome Sebastien Bachollet
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:Olivier, I'm available to speak on IANA update, if you wish...
Terri Agnew:Suggested name: ICANN Evolution
Ariel Liang:re different fonts - if you copy/paste agenda from a word doc to a wiki page, fonts tend to get messed up as formatting is carried over
Ariel Liang:so better to just type the agenda directly on the wiki
Heidi Ullrich:Welcome, All.
Terri Agnew:WS2 Transparency Subgroup Meeting #4 | 13:00 UTC | Thursday, 22 September
Tatiana Tropina:Transparency WS2 meeting overlaps with this call, sadly.
Terri Agnew:CWG IANA Meeting | 14:00 UTC | Thursday, 22 September
Terri Agnew:WS2 SO/AC Accountability Subgroup Meeting | 19:00 UTC | Thursday, 22 September
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:Possible outcome, if no Transition OF OVERSIGHT: some countries may be tempted to begin fragmentation of our unique, all-connected Internet.
Terri Agnew:Welcome Seun
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Indeed JEan Jacques
Terri Agnew:agenda font has been fixed on today's agenda
Terri Agnew:Welcome Luke Kapchanga
Terri Agnew:Guidelines for Good Faith: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_nhWOAw&d=DQICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=oXDhBewhR0aqbsT9vsp_LfYSc8nNd1CHTNINf2WWR7A&s=cx0uaR9ea8GC2Hs7XKuh3miMwao30Z4mrs6ANCU24V0&e=
Terri Agnew:credit goes to Ariel - she has taught us the magic
seun:thanks. in another meeting
seun:but following
Luke Kapchanga:Hi Everyone? Thanks Terri.
Tatiana Tropina:this group looks like the smallest one in the WS2 (number of participants...)
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:indeed
Tatiana Tropina:may be a good thing. Not like HR (war on everyone)
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:sub-groups - thanks
Louis Houle:Audio gone
Louis Houle:...snd bsck
Tatiana Tropina:am active in HR group but newbie to this one. Will listen what Tijany says :)
Sebastien:There no decision to call those groups :sub-groups, design teams or drafting teams
Tatiana Tropina:sorry, Tijani
Tatiana Tropina:still less than HR - this is actually surprising. Party on the calls - very true.
Tatiana Tropina:I can't believe this has been discussed at all!
Terri Agnew:Welcome Jimmy Schulz
Jimmy Schulz:Hi Terri
Alan Greenberg:Tijani's sound quality deteriorating.
Louis Houle:Maybe other microphones are interferring
Maureen Hilyard:Thank you Heidi and Olivier. I was checking an AGREE. Interesting discussion.
Tatiana Tropina:I understand their legal opinion :P but I don't believe they don't know what they are doing (meaning - reopening the issue)
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:ALl discussion in this Sub Group are highly political
Tatiana Tropina:Oh yes, i mnow some GAC members who were waiting for WS2 openaly stating that ICANN shalk be relocated
Tatiana Tropina:OCL, yes, +1. Politically driven
Tatiana Tropina:but the good thing in these political discussion is that legal solutions proposed by those driven by political interests don't make much sense... after all the discussions this will probably go home, meaning incorporation in CA.
Luke Kapchanga:Kindly can some one explain for me to understand better , the roles of active participants and observers?
Tatiana Tropina:Luke, observers can't write to the list, can't draft and can't participate in decision making
Tatiana Tropina:So they can just read and listen
Luke Kapchanga:Okay.
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:"Improving GLobalisation of ICANN"
Tatiana Tropina:Olivier sounds so optimistic :)
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:@Olivier, it was "Improving Institutional Confidence" of which I was a co-author, published 27 Feb. 2009, see https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__archive.icann.org_en_jpa_iic_&d=DQICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=oXDhBewhR0aqbsT9vsp_LfYSc8nNd1CHTNINf2WWR7A&s=b7GCvrHSvew4FtqAuABwZrXFjQqq74WKv2KuMFBGmro&e=
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Thanks ]Jean-JAcques, that is helpful
Louis Houle:Indeed, thanks
Terri Agnew:Reviewing the CEP: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_nBWOAw&d=DQICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=oXDhBewhR0aqbsT9vsp_LfYSc8nNd1CHTNINf2WWR7A&s=L0FIYnS_KPeUZHvTr_cYZYH-nXkdePDyAf53Y0a2h1I&e=
Terri Agnew:Welcome Glenn McKnight
Terri Agnew:Welcome Christopher Wilkinson
Terri Agnew:SO/AC Accountability: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_lBWOAw&d=DQICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=oXDhBewhR0aqbsT9vsp_LfYSc8nNd1CHTNINf2WWR7A&s=R0o2g57lbNXanJcxruTRyRDEdOMc4Uutg1mljmM6-Uk&e=
Louis Houle:Yes
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:Sorry All, I have to sign off now. Wishing you a nice day!
Terri Agnew:goodbye Jean-Jacques
Louis Houle:recommandation 13: How do you determine: proportionally to their scope and relevance.
Glenn McKnight:Very difficult to meet the recommendation 13 ie.overall balance of stakeholder representation
Glenn McKnight:Devil is in the details how to do this
Glenn McKnight:Methodology
Louis Houle:Indeed:what methodology is used, or proposed.
Tatiana Tropina:the problem (I think) that the criteria for ALAC will be different compare to say GNSO. There can't be "one size fits all" solution for the WS2. Too much of a job for the DT.
Glenn McKnight:Process vs Procedures
Alan Greenberg:We are running out of time...
Terri Agnew:Staff Accountability: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_mhWOAw&d=DQICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=oXDhBewhR0aqbsT9vsp_LfYSc8nNd1CHTNINf2WWR7A&s=GATUc2-zr5fo1JcVk-r3Z3OR_-wEHd7lmdby9osigPM&e=
Sebastien:And Avri as rapporteur
Tatiana Tropina:Staff paper
Tatiana Tropina:on staff accountability :)
Tatiana Tropina:yes Alan it is amusing
Sebastien:I have a hard stop in 5 minutes
Sebastien:Very interesting discussion and usefull
CW:Have to leave the call. Thankyou. CW
Sebastien:can we have another meeting in not to long time?
Glenn McKnight:bye all
Louis Houle:Bye everyone!
Harold Arcos:This is a good hour. The rotation is a good practice for equitative for all.
Tatiana Tropina:bye all!
Gordon Chillcott:bye for now.
Maureen Hilyard:Bye all
Heidi Ullrich:Bye!
Harold Arcos:* The rotation is a good practice for the equalitation for all. Thanks all, bye.
Kaili Kan:Thanks! Bye!
