Terri Agnew:Welcome to the At-Large Ad-hoc WG on IANA Transition & ICANN Accountability call on Thursday, 19 November 2015 at 19:00 UTC
Terri Agnew:meeting page: https://community.icann.org/x/gb1YAw
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:Hello All!
Alan Greenberg:Olivier and I are still on the CWG IANA call, and Leon will be 20 minutes late for other reasons. Please stand by.
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:Expenditure related to Transition, here is an interesting presentation by ICANN's CFO, look at slices such as "lobbying": https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/iana-stewardship-expenses-professional-type-18nov15-en.pdf
Alan Greenberg:Looks like CWG call is about to end
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:The call is being brought to a close in the next couple of minutes
Terri Agnew:Thank you for the update
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Sorry Terri get OUR oporator to call me back now please I did switch calls after all... back toi this ine niow though
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:the call has ended.
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:so now I am awaiting a dial out and we can start immediately
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Why they called me in for the last 54 secs is beyind me of course
Beran Gillen:hello everyone
Terri Agnew:Action items 06 November 2015: https://community.icann.org/x/arZYAw
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:Related to what I'll be talking about: tps://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/iana-stewardship-expenses-professional-type-18nov15-en.pdf
Glenn McKnight:Lots of legal costs
Terri Agnew:Welcome Lawrence Olawale-Roberts
Glenn McKnight:@JJ did they reveal who is getting these contracts for education , lobby, and legal?
Lawrence Olawale-Roberts:Thank you Terri, sorry all for joining late
Sébastien:https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2015-11-19-en
Sébastien:With some explanation
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:@Glenn, that is being discussed just now by Sébastien.
Glenn McKnight:Thanks I liked to hear from Sebastien on his observation. The problem is sometimes in financials to avoid the Lobby issues and constraints the companies are labelled education or something else.
Sébastien:SupportGraphics/media (including XPlane) and WG Secretariat Support.$681,107
Glenn McKnight:To be transparent one needs to know what they did for this money
Sébastien:Education/Engagement Albright Stonebridge Group LLC EdelmanInterface Media Rice Hadley Gates LLC Summit Strategies International LLC WBC Global $1,070,438
Terri Agnew:Welcome Le-Marie Thompson
Terri Agnew:Welcome Leon Sanchez
Leon Sanchez:hello everyone and my apologies for coming in late
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I can hear you very well, Jean-Jacques
Terri Agnew:CWG IANA: https://community.icann.org/x/37fhAg
Terri Agnew:CWG IANA meetings: https://community.icann.org/x/6grxAg
Terri Agnew:IANA CWG Meeting #71 (19 November @ 17:00 UTC) : ttps://community.icann.org/x/RrdYAw
Leon Sanchez:I haven't followed the IPR issues closely but I believe it is the least important of all issues for the transition
Leon Sanchez:Being into IP for the last 22 years I can tell you IANA IPR doesn't worry me at all
Terri Agnew:will try
Terri Agnew:almost ready
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):In the almost 60 pages there is a lot of explanation repitition/ advise notes repeated examples etc., I thinlk a slimmer 'actual' version of proposed changes could be prepared IMP
Leon Sanchez:I wasn't aware Olivier
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):hard to hear Seun
Leon Sanchez:I am having a really hard time trying to hear and understand what Seun is saying :(
Terri Agnew:We have tried several telephone networks for Seun
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):I could not understand either if simeone who did hear/understand Seun could give a synopsis that would be useful
Leon Sanchez:Thanks Terri
Leon Sanchez:+1 Cheryl
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Nor could Leon OCL
Leon Sanchez:indeed
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Ahh ok the good old apearances sake guff
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):understood... I however prefer Alans way forward without Charter changes... Thanks... Changing Charters is often fraught with danger
Terri Agnew:CCWG Accountability: https://community.icann.org/x/IIMHAw
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Go for it Leon
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):ouch
Alan Greenberg:Sorry, that was me...
Glenn McKnight:sound is bad
Terri Agnew:@Leon, your line is sounding weird. We can dial back out to you and get a better line.
Lawrence Olawale-Roberts:the line is not clear at my end
Lawrence Olawale-Roberts:okay now
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):sound went off for a while but back niw
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:@Leon, excellent remark!
Lawrence Olawale-Roberts:yeah
Leon Sanchez:Thanks Jean-Jacques :-)
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:@Cheryl, interesting remark too!
Leon Sanchez:indeed Cheryl
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:All: perhaps the real question, beyond the reaction by V, and the analysis just given by Leon and Cheryl, is whether the reaction echoed the concerns of the overseeing authorities in Washington.
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:@Cheryl, proposal to make another ALAC statement in the future, on that subject.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):yes Alan
Alan Greenberg:I am having a hard time understanding seun
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):indeed not able to hear ve4ry much at all
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Seun asks a question about translation services & the public comment which will be only 21 days. Could the ALAC have the document translated faster than using the usual ICANN process?for example, translating an interim document prior to the end document being released?2nd. Question: the response from the Board on the "ICANN Mission" - has this been considered at all?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):translation will be as fast as possible... but we can webinar wit interprators to assist in RALOS
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:a Webinar is not the same as the details of a proposal where it has been admitted by everyone that "the devil is in the details"
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:that's my concern. The details.
Leon Sanchez:Thanks Cheryl you are right
Leon Sanchez:I am just so used to the term now that it doesn't seem to leave my mouth
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:@Cheryl, something like "Views of ICANN's SOs and ACs".
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):your forgiven Leon ;-)
Leon Sanchez:Thanks Cheryl!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):timne check
Jean-Jacques Subrenat:Thank you Leon, very interesting report!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):and i need to go to change my grandaughters nappy :-) so stepping away from AC => audio only
Alan Greenberg:Nope
Leon Sanchez:Thanks Jean-Jacques :-)
Leon Sanchez:doodle for Thursday-Friday next week?
Leon Sanchez:oh yes
Leon Sanchez:so next-next week?
Lawrence Olawale-Roberts:it's okay with me also
Alan Greenberg:MAybe its time for some Canadian staff.
Gordon Chillcott:Thank you and bye for now
Lawrence Olawale-Roberts:good its
Lawrence Olawale-Roberts:good nite