Terri Agnew:Dear all, Welcome to the At-Large Ad-hoc WG on IANA Transition & ICANN Accountability call on Friday, 31 July 2015 at 18:00 UTC
Terri Agnew:meeting page: https://community.icann.org/x/Y4tCAw
CLO:hi Terri... Adigo can try again ow.... helps to have the ph with you
Alberto Soto:Hi Terri! Hi all!
Terri Agnew:Welcome Alberto
Heidi Ullrich:Hi All
Terri Agnew:Action items 23 July 2015: https://community.icann.org/x/MIdCAw
Terri Agnew:ICG Report Issues and Comments Solicited: http://www.ianacg.org/
Terri Agnew:Webinar Scheduled: https://www.ianacg.org/iana-stewardship-transition-coordination-group-icg-to-host-webinars-in-conjunction-with-call-for-public-comment/
Terri Agnew:07 August 2015, 11:00-12:30 UTC and 06 August 2015, 19:00-20:30 UTC
Terri Agnew:ALAC Statement Drafting Wiki: https://community.icann.org/x/LY1CAw
Terri Agnew:Welcome Mohamed El Bashir
Terri Agnew:@Mohamed let me know if you need a dial out on telephone
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:there is also a delay in Mohamed's voice whn we correspond
Terri Agnew:@Mohamed, we are unable to hear you, you are breaking up
Mohamed El Bashir:my apology it seems my internet is bad
Mohamed El Bashir:I will coordinate with staff to be called to phone number
Mohamed El Bashir:thanks Alan for summarizing my input
Mohamed El Bashir:I will ask Staff to call me on a phone number better than my current internet connection
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:ok thx
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:please let us know whe you are on
CLO:I assume there will be a slide deck from the webinar that might summarize
Terri Agnew:Mohamed has joined audio
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:has he?
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:ah ok :-)
Sébastien:yes
Sébastien:thanks
Alan Greenberg:Will depend on the specifics of the comment!
Alan Greenberg:CWG is moot now that the ICG has issued its proposal. Until comments come in.
Terri Agnew:CCWG Accountability: https://community.icann.org/x/IIMHAw
Terri Agnew:Second Draft Report (in development -- not yet published): https://community.icann.org/x/pKs0Aw
CLO:that is for sure
Sébastien:The 3rd
CLO:Mon
CLO:a reference to HR that is more than is there now
CLO:18
CLO:more powers than they do now
CLO:it codefies the current level of power
CLO:not just contracted powers
CLO:yup
CLO:AGREE
Gordon Chillcott:Agree
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I hear of a campaign that will push a lot of public comments asking for the alternative structure.
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:so we need to be firm in this indeed.
CLO:and I could have lived with that Web
CLO:Web auto corrected sorry Sebastian
Sébastien:that OK CLO
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:ok thanks!
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:The WG is looking at wasting 90% of its time looknig at the unlikely scenarios that have a 99% hance of never happening, turningi into a complicated set of procedures which wil fly out the window if we ever came to that point because lawsuits will fly in all directions and ICANN will be pretty much destroyed anyway.
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:What the CCWG is working on is completely Academical. ie. In Theory.
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I do not think anyone realises the Sh*t ICANN will be in if the ommunity needs to fire the whole Board.
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:this is like wondering if we should fire the gardener after a thermonuclear war becaue the lawn might not need mowing anymore...
Alan Greenberg:Olivier, you are right. Many of the issues in the CCWG are driven by a small number of very vocal people. The only saving grace is the thresholds for many of the powers are very high.
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Driven by highly opinionated, vested interests.
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Budget veto power is another catastrophe.
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:including vetoing of the IANA budget. It is like a gun pointing to your head.
Alberto Soto:Thanks!! Bye all!!
Gordon Chillcott:Thank you, Alan
Alberto Soto:Thanks anyway!!
Gordon Chillcott:Bye, now