Terri Agnew:Dear all, Welcome to the At-Large Ad-hoc WG on IANA Transition & ICANN Accountability on Thursday, 09 April 2015 at 14:00 UTC
Terri Agnew:meeting page: https://community.icann.org/x/YSEnAw
Seun Ojedeji:Hello everyone
Seun Ojedeji:oh...i guess its just me ;-)
Yasuichi Kitamura:hi, all
Alberto Soto:Hello all!
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Apologies I have back to back calls and I need to drop now because I am Chairing my next call
Glenn McKnight:Hi all
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:ooops wrong window :-)
Seun Ojedeji:It tells how back-to-back the calls really are :-)
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:3rd one back to back
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:with 30 minutes on 2 calls simultaneously. Somehow confusing.....
Alan Greenberg:Overlap = front to back perhaps
Terri Agnew:19 March 2015 Action items: https://community.icann.org/x/ERUnAw
Terri Agnew:Welcome Mwendwa Kivuva
Terri Agnew:IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group Issues Proposal Assembly and Finalization Process and Updated Transition Process Timeline: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2-2015-01-07-en
Terri Agnew:Welcome Carlton Samuels
Carlton Samuels:Howdy all
Terri Agnew:Master schedule of all Meetings (including Design Teams): https://community.icann.org/x/6grxAg
Terri Agnew:@Sebastien, we are dialing back out to you
Avri Doria:Not an intense weekend but a Monday Tuesday, i think
Sébastien:Thanks Terri. I am back home now and on Adobe
Terri Agnew:@Sebastien, thank you for the update
Avri Doria:the DT are racing toward 110 April conclusion. mine, DT-N Reviews has a drive working document <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pjRsvePXLHrK0zzFmMcavzvSXehds5FTCEUPPcc7K6w/edit?usp=sharing> for anyone who is interested.
Avri Doria:110 April might be nice, but it is really 10 April
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:much closer than 110 :-)
Avri Doria:Oh yeah, had put Prioirty 2 out of mind.
Terri Agnew:Client Committee (web link): https://community.icann.org/x/8g8nAw
Avri Doria:It is amazing how far things have moved in a short 3 weeks. and how many things still need decsion before the 20/21 April 'deadlines'
Avri Doria:The Sidley doc makes for good reading and it provides a good overview of many of the issues.
Seun Ojedeji:yes i agree as well
Glenn McKnight:yes
Gordon Chillcott:Yes
Glenn McKnight:My mic is muted
Terri Agnew:Welcome Christopher Wilkinson
Seun Ojedeji:I am not sure i understand how the sole member works
Avri Doria:though the other operational communities would have the option, perhaps, to become members. perhaps at a later time, should they ever decide they wanted to.
Avri Doria:Seun, it was one of the questions we asked about, can a membership organization have only one member.
Avri Doria:and the answer was yes.
Seun Ojedeji:So an organisation will have one member yet it will still have a board
Seun Ojedeji:but i agree common sense may not matter when addressing legal issues ;-)
Avri Doria:Seun, depends on the exact set up. But yes, probably.
Terri Agnew:@Seun, we are unable to hear you
Seun Ojedeji:can you hear me
Seun Ojedeji:hanging up can terri redial
Terri Agnew:@Seun, dialing back out to you
Seun Ojedeji:thanks
Fatima Cambronero:Sorry, I have to go. Thanks all. Bye
Terri Agnew:goodbye Fatima
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:SOrry I was dropped
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Next is Alan Greenberg
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I can hear through AC
Terri Agnew:Olivier is back on audio
Seun Ojedeji:Okay thanks...will look forward to how this practically work out
Alan Greenberg:We have in fact addressed a lot of the accountability issues already, so we are ok with time.
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:@Alan: thanks
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I gather the two topics are very much linked now
CW:Regarding NTIA getting out, there is uncertainty over the Verisign contract and the management of .gov, .mil, and .edu
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:The US government has mentioned that they would start a separate process on this... but I have not seen anything about it yet
Seun Ojedeji:I wish we could apply same at the WG level i.e letting CCWG handle accountability issues ;-)
CW:However, there IS a question over the future of .int.
Seun Ojedeji:Okay thanks a lot....i have to leave now
Seun Ojedeji:bye
Terri Agnew:good bye Seun
Terri Agnew:CCWG Accountability: https://community.icann.org/x/IIMHAw
Avri Doria:The fiduciary responsiblity is not quite as restrictive as some people think. fiduciary repsonsiblity means supportig the mission and core principles. as well as the need for global public interest as expressed in the Articles of Incorpaoration.
Avri Doria:Some people argue that rremoving the board is so remote that it wont; serve as a constraint on their behavior. i disagree with that.
Avri Doria:we(s)elect becasue we beleive they will serve our idea of what that fiduciary repsonsiblity means.
Avri Doria:i would think the people (s)elected should be doing the right thing. and if that is a mismatch, the community should let them know. a board member must alwasy understand the views of those who did the (s)election
CW:The main change necessary is to rebalance the composition of the Board, independently of eventual recusal by SO/ACs. CW
Avri Doria:reapportionement of the board is a subject many bring up. but they all have very different ideas of how that sould be done.
Carlton Samuels:@Allan: Behaviour modification after the fact is I think, a far longer term initiative than 3 years!
CW:The concept of 'the best interests of the organisation' is quite broad. It is not limited to ICANN making as much money as possible from the gTLDs ...
Carlton Samuels:@OCL: Good question? In that context, if you predetermine a position for a AC/SO appointed Director acting in the best interest of ICANN the corporation we will be left high and dry
Alan Greenberg:Well put Avri.
Carlton Samuels:@Avri: I agree with you in one sense. Because one issue might look like a disavowal of principle but examined with others in context you might get a different view emerging.
Carlton Samuels:Black n white decision-making in this context is always shortsighted! Politics is the art of the possible. And I know we love to think every action is apolitical. But in y view all organisations comport with a social and world view. So any decison in an organization, especialluy one of te type we talking about, is fraught with politics.
Carlton Samuels:We can deny it. But denial of plain fact is an existential fact in our world.
CW:Thankyou, Olivier and interpreters. Talk again soon. CW
Heidi Ullrich:Bye, All.
Alberto Soto:Thanks, bye !!!
Carlton Samuels:Thanks all
Gordon Chillcott:Thanks and bye for now
