Nathalie Peregrine: (11/14/2014 10:32) Dear all, welcome to the Technology Task Force (TTF) meeting to discuss the Policy Management Process System (PMPS) on the 14th November 2014
Nathalie Peregrine: (10:32) Agenda page: https://community.icann.org/x/8TTxAg
Glenn McKnight: (14:00) Hi
Gordon Chillcott: (14:00) Hi, there.
Glenn McKnight: (14:01) Pkease provide te link to the Policy
Nathalie Peregrine: (14:01) Glenn, the wiki page will be posted in the AC once the roll call is done
Glenn McKnight: (14:02) Maker Faire
Glenn McKnight: (14:02) http://makerfairetoronto.com/
Glenn McKnight: (14:02) Nov 22
Glenn McKnight: (14:07) 1. Define the Scope of the problem
judith hellerstein: (14:07) sorry to be late
Glenn McKnight: (14:07) 2. Defne expectations
judith hellerstein: (14:08) @nathalie and Ariel, please add me to the participants list
Ariel Liang: (14:09) added Judith. welcome!
Glenn McKnight: (14:15) An example of a Process Knowledge System is the one used by ARIN
Glenn McKnight: (14:15) https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp_appendix_a.pdf
Glenn McKnight: (14:16) The Policy Development Process (PDP) is how the ARIN community proposes, discusses, and adopts policies. The PDP is cyclical and consists of five basic steps. They are:Need: A community member submits a proposal after seeing a need for a new or revised policy.Discuss: The ARIN Advisory Council develops technically sound and useful draft policies and forwards them for community discussion on the Public Policy Mailing List and at Public Policy Meeting(s).Consensus: The Advisory Council evaluates consensus and, if found in favor, recommends ratification by the Board of Trustees. The Board ratifies a draft policy after ensuring the PDP was followed and conducting an examination of each draft policy in terms of fiduciary risk, liability risk, conformity to law, and adherence to the ARIN Articles of Incorporation and ARIN Bylaws.Implement: The new policy takes effect.Evaluate: ARIN community and staff members evaluate all policies for relevance and unintended consequences based on implementation experience. This co
Glenn McKnight: (14:17) https://www.arin.net/participate/how_to_participate.html
Murray McKercher: (14:19) sorry I am late
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (14:20) Hello Murray
Gordon Chillcott: (14:20) The other factor, I think, is that the ALS's themselves need to take part of the problem in hand - find a way to expedite response.
Ariel Liang: (14:21) Here it is: https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/5112175/ALAC_Policy_Advice_Chart.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1373387404000&api=v2
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (14:22) At-Large Improvements Report : https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/34603644/ALAC+At-Large+Improvements+Implementation+Project+-+Final+Report+14+June+2012.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1339698422000
Glenn McKnight: (14:24) Restrict your interest to topics of interest
Glenn McKnight: (14:24) Its common with most subscriber lists
Glenn McKnight: (14:25) Speak up Gordon
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (14:26) Cross Community Working Group on Developing a Final Framework of Operating Principles to Guide Future Cross Community Working Groups announcement: http://gnso.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-12may14-en.htm
Gordon Chillcott: (14:26) Sorry, Glenn. Just noticed that.
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (14:28) https://www.icann.org/public-comments#open-public
judith hellerstein: (14:28) Teh problem is that the current policy statements that only ALAC can vote on are sent to everyone even when they can not vote or take part at that point.
judith hellerstein: (14:28) This adds to the email clutter which then leads people not to read the emails since most do not concern them
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (14:29) https://www.icann.org/public-comments#open-public
Ariel Liang: (14:32) This is the Policy Development pipeline: https://community.icann.org/x/bwFO
Ariel Liang: (14:32) This is the topic page for the revamped website: https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=49358284#SiteMap%26WireframesPresentedinICANN51-Topics
Ariel Liang: (14:33) This is a detailed page for a topic: https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=49358284#SiteMap%26WireframesPresentedinICANN51-TopicsOverview
Murray McKercher: (14:33) sorry stand by will dial in
Murray McKercher: (14:34) https://www.icann.org/search/#!/?searchText=whois&Language=en
Murray McKercher: (14:34) tried doing a searcgh on whois on the new icann.org
Murray McKercher: (14:35) not sure which database is being searched to provide the results
judith hellerstein: (14:37) Yes @ ariel if that is the case why send out the email to all before the vote. whynot just send it out after it has been voted on. it would clear up any confusion if done this way
Murray McKercher: (14:38) sorry not yet, have asked for a dialout to natalie
Murray McKercher: (14:39) I will type....
Murray McKercher: (14:40) Are the processes in sufficient and will technology applied to a poor process help?
Ariel Liang: (14:40) https://community.icann.org/x/bwFO
Glenn McKnight: (14:42) I noticed Judith had a comment ealier
Ariel Liang: (14:43) It would be great if people can use the wiki to post their comments
Ariel Liang: (14:43) agree with Dev re posting comments on the wiki
Gordon Chillcott: (14:47) I look forward to seeing that tool, @Ariel. Thank you.
Ariel Liang: (14:47) will keep you posted Gordon!
judith hellerstein: (14:51) +1 to glenn
Murray McKercher: (14:53) https://www.icann.org/search/#!/?searchText=whois&Language=en
Yasuichi Kitamura: (14:57) Usually, I'm at the policy devlopment process of APNIC.
Yasuichi Kitamura: (14:57) but ICANN looks a little bit different from the APNIC
Yasuichi Kitamura: (14:58) and needs to get more opinons based on culture
Yasuichi Kitamura: (14:58) or languange and so on
Yasuichi Kitamura: (14:59) yes
Gordon Chillcott: (15:01) There's that engagement problem again . . .
Murray McKercher: (15:01) @yasuichi, having returning fron China can completelt relate to your comments on cultur !
Gordon Chillcott: (15:02) Use the wiki.
Murray McKercher: (15:02) use the wiki
Murray McKercher: (15:05) he was very responsive
Ariel Liang: (15:06) Thanks Glenn re the social media platforms of Chris. We will get back to you on that
Gordon Chillcott: (15:06) Yes
Gordon Chillcott: (15:06) Yes on the call
Yasuichi Kitamura: (15:06) yes
Murray McKercher: (15:06) my time is limited, but I will try to keep in the loop
judith hellerstein: (15:07) my time is also limited
Yasuichi Kitamura: (15:07) 28 is ok with me, too.
Gordon Chillcott: (15:08) Thank you, all!
Murray McKercher: (15:08) have a great day eveyone bye...
Ariel Liang: (15:08) Thank you all!
Nathalie Peregrine: (15:08) Thanks everyone
Dev Anand Teelucksingh: (15:08) Take care all, thanks all
