Nathalie Peregrine:Dear all, welcome to the fourth PRE-ATLAS II Capacity Building Program on the Topic Policy Development Process on Monday 5th May 2014 at 1300 UTC
Nathalie Peregrine:Agenda page: https://community.icann.org/x/zz-RAg
Matthieu Camus:Hello everyone
Silvia Vivanco:Hello everyone
Silvia Vivanco:Welcome
1838:hello
Carlos Raul:good morning
Otunte Otueneh:Hello Silvia, my name is not in the attendance list
Silvia Vivanco:Hello Otunte
Silvia Vivanco:we will note it
Otunte Otueneh:ok. thanks
Allan Skuce:Greetings.
Anthony Niiganii:Good Day All
Mercy:Greetings from South Africa, Mercy Moyo here
Silvia Vivanco:Welcome all!
Silvia Vivanco:We will begin in 5 mins
Sunil Lal:Greetings from Fiji
Aída Noblia:Hi all
Pastor Peters Omoragbon:hi everyone is this the correct webinar ongoing now please? as I want to disconnect from my phone and continue here
Silvia Vivanco:Hello Pastor Peters, we will start in 4 mins
Silvia Vivanco:yes this is the correct webinar
Lianna Galstyan:Greetings from Armenia
Silvia Vivanco:Welcome Lianna
Pastor Peters Omoragbon:ok, thx
Siranush Vardanyan:hello, all
Narine Khachatryan:hello everyone!
Robert Castonguay - Isoc Quebec:Hello everyone
Ali AlMeshal:good afternoon from Bahrain to everyone
Heidi Ullrich:Welcome, All!
Silvia Vivanco:Welcome Ali
Silvia Vivanco:and Robert
Peter Knight:Bom dia de Rio de janeiro!
judith Hellerstein:Hi All from DC
1838:Hello
Mondher LAABIDI:Hello
Sunil Lal:hello
Siranush Vardanyan:I apologise, but need to leave the call in 30 minutes, will follow up with recording
Natalia Enciso:Hello everyone!
Terri Agnew:Welcome
Aída Noblia:Hello Natalia!
Natalia Enciso:Thanks Terri. Hola Aída!
Silvia Vivanco:There is an evaluation sheet attached to the calendar invite. Please fill it in at the end of the webinar session and send it back to staff@atlarge.icann.org. You can ask questions related to each session on the Wiki : https://community.icann.org/x/ST-Rag(https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ATLAS+II+Capacity+Building+Webinars++-+Questions+and+Answers+Workspace) within one week from the session’s date; The trainer will answer it not later than 2 weeks from the date of the presentation.
Carlos Raul:he went out for a smoke
Carlos Raul::)
Philip F Johnson:Hi to all
Terri Agnew:Welcome
Lance Hinds:Morning
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:NomCom = Nominating Committee
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:SOI = an application for a position
Marika Konings:NCUC = Non-Commercial Users Constituency
Tom Lowenhaupt:SOI =Statement of Interest?
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:@Tom : yes
Carlos Raul:NPOC?
Marika Konings:NPOC = Not for Profit Operational Concerns Constituency
Nathalie Peregrine:@ Tom, yes
Peter Knight:Audio is breaking up
Marika Konings:In a GNSO context, all participants are required to complete a Statement of Interest (SOI) so it is clear and transparent which interests you may have in a certain topic.
Tom Lowenhaupt:NCA=?
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:@Tom you'll find different parts of ICANN use Statement of Interest for different things. In At-Large it is a Statement that shows moreinformation about you and what conflicts of interest you might have. In the NomCom context, it is an application for a position
Marika Konings:NCA = Nominating Committee Appointee
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:@Peter Audio perfect here. ¨Perhaps your link?
Nathalie Peregrine:@ Peter, please dial into the Adigo bridge on #1638 if your AC audio is bad. Alternatively we can dial out to you
Roger Baig_:Can the slides be downloaded?
Tom Lowenhaupt:Thanks you Olivier and Marika
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:@Roger: yes
Nathalie Peregrine:@ Roger slides are available ehre: https://community.icann.org/x/zz-RAg
Roger Baig_:thx
Peter Knight:@Nathalie. Audio returned full stream.
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:@Nathalie -- the slides are not on the Agenda yet.
Fatima Cambronero:hello everyone (sorry for being late)
Terri Agnew:Welcome Fatima
Fatima Cambronero:thanks @Terri
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Ahh -- I apologies: Presentation: EN // ok
Aída Noblia:Hello Fátima
Marika Konings:More detailed graphics and further background information about the GNSO Policy Development Process can be found here: http://gnso.icann.org/en/basics/consensus-policy/pdp
Fatima Cambronero:hello Aida
Natalia Enciso:Audio on the AC breaks for some secs
carlos dionisio aguirre:hi, I have n strong concern in relation with the members of the different constituencies and stakeholders in gnso. my concern has to do with the take cover made by certain groups in this constituencies . this situation mean that people interested on participate cant do because the space is only for "selected" people. could you say something about it, or your opinion if you think im wrong. thanks
Alan Greenberg:Overall process has a lot of detail and this *is* a short form. But at every stage of the process, that complexity is largely in the background. So getting involved does NOT require that this wntire process be mastered.
Judith Hellerstein:I too had an audio problem, but it seems to be a firefox issue that uses a stand alone adobe connect app that i launches. In this app lately the audio disappears and then reappears. But now I switched browsers where the adobe connect app is within the borwser and I do not seem to have this problem
Marika Konings:@Carlos - all GNSO Working Groups are open to anyone interested - these are not limited to GNSO Contituency or Stakeholder Group members.
Etienne TSHISHIMBI:On entend plus rien sur le canal français
Fatima Cambronero:no audio in Spanish channel for me
Aída Noblia:for mi ehther Fátima
Fatima Cambronero:back
Alan Greenberg:Carlos, space on the GNSO COuncil is based on those specifically selected for thos seats. But participation in the policy process is not at all limited, except it does require that people comit time and effort to the process.
Nathalie Peregrine:@ Etienne, vous entendez maintenant, ou toujours pas?
Etienne TSHISHIMBI:oui
Etienne TSHISHIMBI:c'est revenu (le son)
Nathalie Peregrine:parfait, merci Etienne
Alan Greenberg:Note that these measures of consensus are those used by the GNSO. Other parts of ICANN have differing definitions!
carlos dionisio aguirre:thanks Alan , Is
carlos dionisio aguirre:I wait the Thomas response, thanks again
Fatima Cambronero:silence again in Spanish channel
carlos dionisio aguirre:i know what you said, but i referto another thing what you know as well
Nathalie Peregrine:We have audio issues in FR and ES, looking into it now
Etienne TSHISHIMBI:encore parti (le son)
Anthony Niiganii:hey again, my flash crashed
Nathalie Peregrine:The interpretors are dialling back in, we will have FR and ES interpreation back up shortly
Nathalie Peregrine:ES interpretation is back, awaiting FR and we will resume the webinar. Apologies all for the inconvenience.
Etienne TSHISHIMBI:No FR
carlos dionisio aguirre:it seems to me is very difficult for newbies understan in a complete way what mean the PDP and it complex procedure. i think we need more than one webinar
Etienne TSHISHIMBI:pas toujours de son en français
Garth Graham:Question: In ALAC, what is the “reasonably relevant” balance between the “community” that an ALS represents (i.e. the users engagement level) and ICANN’s internal “communities.” Or, to put that another way, what’s the push-pull in the identification of policy issues from the viewpoint of ICANN’s expectations and what’s in the “real” world?
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:@Etienne: on y travaille
Nathalie Peregrine:GNSO Newcomers webinar: http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/alac-announce/2014q2/001705.html
Peter Knight:Audio stopped
Alan Greenberg:As someone who has identified policy issues that have been addressed by the GNSO, I could try a reply.
Peter Knight:Back again
Alan Greenberg:But Marika has just said it!
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:@Alan: iok
Nathalie Peregrine:@ Hadja et Etienne, nous sommes desoles mais nous n;'arrivons pas a reocnnecter les interpretes Francais. Nous ne voulons pas retarder la presentation davantage. Si nous vous faisons parvenir la traduction du transcripte de ce webinar en priorite, est-ce que vous etes d'accord que les presentateurs continuent pendant que les interpretes francais resolvent leur probleme?
Heidi Ullrich:Apologies for the delay. We will start the call again without FR interpretation
Heidi Ullrich:and ask that the FR speakers read the transcript
Anthony Niiganii:What process are in place to update and change policy should the need arises or is requested?
Marika Konings:@Anthony - the idea is that a policy is reviewed over time and clarifications / modifications are suggested as for example is happening with the Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy (IRTP)
Marika Konings:but the only mechanism currently available is to do this via a PDP
Anthony Niiganii:@Marika thank you.
Etienne TSHISHIMBI:Rappellez moi SVP
Nathalie Peregrine:@Etienne, de suite
Nathalie Peregrine:@Etienne, il n y a plus d'interpretes francais
Nathalie Peregrine:Nous allons faire traduire la transcription en FR de faocn prioritaire
Nathalie Peregrine:vraiment desolee pour ceci
Marika Konings:To give you a further idea about which topics are considered in scope for consensus policy per the 2013 RAA, please see http://www.icann.org/en/resources/registrars/raa/approved-with-specs-27jun13-en.htm#consensus-temporary
Tom Lowenhaupt:What is outside the picket fence?
Mercy:Whats the relationship between GNSO and IANA?
Marika Konings:RAA = Registrar Accreditation Agreement
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:UDRP = Uniform Domain-Name Dispute-Resolution Policy // the policy to resolve trademark abuses
Marika Konings:@ Tom - the specification also specifies which topics are specifically considered outside of the scope for consensus policy development such as 1.4.1. prescribe or limit the price of Registrar Services;1.4.2. modify the limitations on Temporary Policies (defined below) or Consensus Policies;1.4.3. modify the provisions in the Registrar Accreditation Agreement regarding terms or conditions for the renewal, termination or amendment of the Registrar Accreditation Agreement or fees paid by Registrar to ICANN.
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:It is worth noting that sometimes, the policies, like Proxy & Privacy Services Accreditation need to balance between the privacy rights of a domain registrant and the fight against criminal activity and fraud
Marika Konings:@Mercy - the relationship is more specifically between gTLD registries concerning the delegation of gTLDs (generic top level domains)
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Reminder: CCNSO is for Country Codes Top Level Domains // ccTLDs
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Country Code Policy Developement is mostly dealt with in the Country Codes themselves --- and that is because Country Code Operators are Sovereign.
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:So Country Code Operators can NOT be told what to do in their policy by ICANN
Fatima Cambronero:is there global polices from the ccNSO?
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:@Fatima: Marika's answering this now :-)
Fatima Cambronero:yes, just that topic, thanks
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:It is worth noting that the RIRs, NRO & ASO are all inter-connected and often have the same people on the different committees
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:ASO is all about Numbers. IP Addresses. 192.0.0.1 for example
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:and IPv6 addresses like fe80:ab:cd::1 etc.
Johnny Laureano:Dear, I think ICANN should dictate policy to ensure the interests of the stakeholders in the governments of the ccTLD, including ofcourse the interests of individual Internet users.
Sebastien:Who is (not who was) ;)
Mercy:Is the public comment open to anyone even non-ALAC members?
Sebastien:Yes Mercy within At-Large and within ICANN globaly
Marika Konings:@Sebastien - but presumably the drafting of a response by ALAC is limited to At-Large members only?
Sebastien:@Marika Yes for At-Large they can be non-ALAC members
Mercy:Thx Sebastien and Marika, I also wanted to know on how ALAC controls the comment process because if the commending is open to anyone there is need for some control I assume
Darlene Thompson:Excellent information, thank you!
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:@Johnny: many people think the same as you, but it is impossible to ICANN to do this with ccTLDs; and whenever the topic was raised, the affected Country Code Operators have pushed back very strongly, threatening to leave the ccNSO. It is worth noting that if you are a Country Code Operator, you do not need to be on the ccNSO and indeed not all Country Codes Operators are ccNSO members
Sebastien:@Mercy there are a process within At-Large and a global ICANN process. The first one end by a vote by ALAC before to go for public comments, for the second one it is open to all
carlos dionisio aguirre:could u givethe url of the presentation? thanks
Winthrop Yu:Isn't Matt now with Policy?
Mercy:Thx Sebastien for the clarification
Nathalie Peregrine:Slides can be downloaded from here, under Presentation EN: https://community.icann.org/x/zz-RAg
Heidi Ullrich:@Winthrop, Matt moved to Strategic Initatives
Heidi Ullrich:Ariel is the new At-Large Policy Coordinator :)
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:I have been dropped off the call. Operators are calling me back
Winthrop Yu:Copy, thank you @Heidi
Heidi Ullrich:and is amazing!
Heidi Ullrich:but then again, I think all At-Large staff are amazing ;)
Ariel Liang:@Winthrop, I am the new Matt :)
Nathalie Peregrine:Telephone lines are being opened for questions
Winthrop Yu:Hello @Ariel !
Ariel Liang:Hello! Pls feel free to contact me if I can be of any help!
carlos dionisio aguirre:excellentl presentation, a little bit longand complex specailly for newcommers
Heidi Ullrich:@Cheryl, did you have a question?
Yubelkys:a lot of information, but very clearly explained. Thank you!
carlos dionisio aguirre:@yubelkys +1
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Agenda PAge: https://community.icann.org/x/zz-RAg
Marika Konings:For more information about IANA, please see https://www.iana.org/
Sunil Lal:Thank you for the nice presentation. ICANN is a very complex animal indeed, and this presentation has demystified its operations.
Tom Lowenhaupt:Thanks to all for the excellent presentation.
Monique Chartrand:many thanks
Sebastien:IANA is within the ICANN structure/staff http://www.icann.org/en/about/staff/management-org-01may14-en and GNSO is composed of the community (with staff support)
Alan Greenberg:I can add something to the IANA/GNSO issue as well.
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Root Zone is the top part of the DNS Pyramid. It's like the center of the Internet's Addressing System
Mercy:Thank you everyone for the explanation
Sebastien:The IANA Functions Explained - http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-07apr14-en.htm
Sebastien:Yes I am on Adobe
Judith Hellerstein:I can not hear him either
Ariel Liang:Here is the presentation of the webinar: https://community.icann.org/x/zz-RAg
Otunte Otueneh:Ok Olivier. in slide 33 bottom up approach was mention, is there also a top-bottom approach?
Johnny Laureano:Muchas gracias por la presentación.
Allan Skuce:Great Presentation.
Otunte Otueneh:my question is in the chat
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:thank you all
Thomas Rickert:Thank you everyone and thanks to ALAC for this great initiative!
Silvia Vivanco:The attached evaluation sheet will provide us with your valuable feedback. Please fill it in at the end of the webinar session and send it back to staff@atlarge.icann.org You can also ask questions related to each session on the Wiki : https://community.icann.org/x/ST-Rag(https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ATLAS+II+Capacity+Building+Webinars++-+Questions+and+Answers+Workspace) within one week from the session’s date; The trainer will answer it not later than 2 weeks from the date of the presentation.
Yubelkys:thank you again and have a wonderful day!
Heidi Ullrich:Hi All, there is a question and answer wiki available for your questons
Winthrop Yu:Good one, thanks all!
Silvia Vivanco:There is an evaluation sheet which has been attached to the calendar invite
Glenn McKnight:thanks
Silvia Vivanco:please be so kind to respond and give us feedback
Peter Knight:I think there is a problem with IANA explanation in Chrome. It comes up fine in Firefox: Here is the presentation of the webinar: https://community.icann.org/x/zz-RAg
carlos dionisio aguirre:bye. and congrats by the excellent presentation
Mercy:Heidi please supply the link to the wiki
Heidi Ullrich:Q/A wiki space: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ATLAS+II+Capacity+Building+Webinars++-+Questions+and+Answers+Workspace
Heidi Ullrich:and please could you take a few minutes to complete the evaluation form for this call?
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/CAPACITY+BUILDING+WEBINARS+ATLAS+II
Ali AlMeshal:thanks to all
Suhaidi Hassan:Great session! Thanks everyone. Bye all.
Silvia Vivanco:Thank you all!
Silvia Vivanco:bye
Anthony Niiganii:Kinanaskomitinawa!!! Have a great day everyone
Lianna Galstyan:thank you too and bye all
Roger Baig_:thx!
Yasuichi Kitamura:thank you.
Mercy:Bye
Matthieu Camus:Thank you for this presentation, bye!
Allan Skuce:Bye
Fatima Cambronero:thanks to everyone for this presentation! bye
Yubelkys:b ye
Leon Sanchez:thanks all
Mercy:thank you
Leon Sanchez:bye
Robert Castonguay - Isoc Quebec:Thanks and bye
Siranush Vardanyan:bye all
Adrian Carballo:Bye!
Ariel Liang:thank you all. Bye bye
Heidi Ullrich:46 days to the Summit!
Heidi Ullrich:bye!
Narine Khachatryan 2:thank you, good bye!
Otunte Otueneh:great presentation. thank you all
