00:18:55    John McCormac - HosterStats.com:    Evening all. Had a few hours to spare while the latest full gTLD website/IP survey crunched. Collected the registration terms for the ccTLD (less a few dead registries) as per that thread on the mailing list.
00:20:04    Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org:    To follow along with the RTT:  https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN [streamtext.net]\
00:20:19    Gopal Tadepalli:    Greetings. - Dr. T V Gopal, Professor, Department of Computer Science and Engineering, College of Engineering, Guindy Campus, Anna University , Chennai, INDIA.
00:20:40    Jonathan Zuck:    DNS Ticker
00:20:57    Hadia El Miniawi:    Greetings Dr. Gopal and all
00:24:56    Hadia El Miniawi:    welcome Sion
00:25:10    Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org:    To follow along with the RTT:  https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN [streamtext.net]\
00:48:25    Steinar Grøtterød:    .CO is still a ccTLD not in the data collected by OCTA
00:49:04    Jonathan Zuck:    right, Steinar. It was just an example.
00:49:37    Jonathan Zuck:    Could the checks be less frequent but not stop altogether?
00:49:51    Gopal Tadepalli:    USEFUL READING: Ryo Kawaoka, Daiki Chiba, Takuya Watanabe, Mitsuaki Akiyama, and Tatsuya Mori “A First Look at COVID-19 Domain Names: Origin and Implications,” In Proceedings of the Passive and Active Measurement Conference 2021 (PAM 2021), March 29-31 2021, VIRTUAL @ Brandenburg University of Technology [BTU], Germany. - Dr. T V Gopal, Anna University
00:50:21    John McCormac - HosterStats.com:    It would be possible to red flag brand name domain names if they are not on the main brand's nameservers.
00:50:45    Jonathan Zuck:    Indeed, @JM
00:51:37    Jonathan Zuck:    Or @JM any site forwarded to a site not owned by the registrant. Dunno
00:52:30    John McCormac - HosterStats.com:    @JZ Yep. But sometimes they can redirect to the main brand site until they go live for abuse.
00:52:46    John McCormac - HosterStats.com:    @JZ the DNS does not change but the location does.
00:53:31    Jonathan Zuck:    Yes @JM. That's my point. If a domain is redirected to another domain, not owned by the registrant of the initial domain, that could be a red flag.
00:54:20    John McCormac - HosterStats.com:    @JZ It is trivial to do on a daily basis but it would need a whitelist on historical doms.
00:54:29    Jonathan Zuck:    for sure.
00:54:44    Jonathan Zuck:    ping for a mail server?
00:55:24    John McCormac - HosterStats.com:    That would be an interesting metric as it would not be using the main brand mx either.
00:57:32    Gopal Tadepalli:    I gather that 478,000 COVID-related domains that were registered containing top keywords such as ‘covid’, ‘covid19’, ‘coronavirus’, and ‘vaccine’. What is the data from ICANN in terms of numbers ? - Dr. T V Gopal, Anna University
00:57:56    Jonathan Zuck:    like fake medicines, etc.?
00:59:39    Jonathan Zuck:    super difficult. Is there a way to make these "false" positives public so that others might research the content related issues?
01:01:44    Jonathan Zuck:    the registrars needed to do further confirmation, I imagine
01:05:19    Jonathan Zuck:    Me tiher
01:05:51    Steinar Grøtterød:    @Jonathan: The only “requirement” for the registrar (according to the RAA) is to track receiving abuse notices. For Registries, RA Spec 11.3b gives a more active handling
01:06:15    John McCormac - HosterStats.com:    @Sion Have you looked at bad IP ranges as an indicator for possible problematic activity?
01:06:53    Jonathan Zuck:    @JM, I guess the first filter is these 3rd party APIs
01:07:28    Jonathan Zuck:    those numbers are HUGE, when you think about it. Curious about parking versus put in use.
01:07:50    John McCormac - HosterStats.com:    @JZ  A perp is a perp is a perp.  They may reuse or cluster on specific server IPs if they are not using services like Cloudflare to obscure the location,
01:08:00    Gopal Tadepalli:    Thank you: It is nice that OCTO has taken the lead to point out that COVID-19 infects not only people but also internet. Thank you Sion. - Dr. T V Gopal, Anna University
01:09:06    Hadia El Miniawi:    Ok thank you
01:09:07    Jonathan Zuck:    Thanks for your efforts on this Sion!
01:09:18    Hadia El Miniawi:    DAAR is just trend
01:09:18    Jonathan Zuck:    and it's focused on the spikes
01:09:41    Hadia El Miniawi:    understood
01:09:59    Chokri Ben Romdhane:    Thank you Sion
01:10:08    Hadia El Miniawi:    Thank you Sion
01:10:32    John McCormac - HosterStats.com:    Thanks Sion. Very interesting project.
01:10:39    Siôn Lloyd - ICANN Org:    No problem. You can read more here:
01:10:41    Siôn Lloyd - ICANN Org:    https://www.icann.org/dnsticr
01:12:57    John McCormac - HosterStats.com:    Some of the Z tools might be useful to rapidly build some background data on IPs/MXes/Website stuff but it needs historical depth to make it effective.
01:18:23    John McCormac - HosterStats.com:    For those unfamiliar with the Zmap project, https://zmap.io/ , it is a set of tools that allow the collection of data in a very quick manner.
01:18:47    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    thanks for this session it was indeed useful...
01:18:55    Steinar Grøtterød:    The GNSO TPR WG refers to RFC 9154 re the Transfer Authorisation Code (TAC)
01:20:21    Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond:    I think Alan was SSAD ODP too
01:20:37    Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond:    and of course WS2
01:23:33    Steinar Grøtterød:    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_wY631ybdRAwieTUsSR8uEcfTimwoP592oP93Sv1W5I/edit?usp=sharing
01:31:52    Lutz Donnerhacke:    Yep
01:34:51    Jonathan Zuck:    EPDP Phase 2...
01:36:45    Jonathan Zuck:    Thanks
01:37:14    Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org:    We will add the link to the wiki agenda
01:37:18    Claudia Ruiz - ICANN Org:    Will add link to the agenda
01:42:16    Claudia Ruiz - ICANN Org:    https://community.icann.org/display/alacpolicydev/At-Large+Policy+Advice+Development+Page
01:43:56    Hadia El Miniawi:    thank you - bye all
01:44:13    Dave Kissoondoyal (ICANN ALAC):    Thanks and bye to all
01:44:15    Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org:    Next meeting: Wednesday, 18 May at 13:00 UTC
01:44:22    Isaac Maposa:    Thanks all, bye.
01:44:28    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    bye for now then...
01:44:50    John McCormac - HosterStats.com:    Thanks and later all.
01:45:08    iPad (27)Vanda Scartezini:    Thanks to all good meeting
01:45:12    Michel TCHONANG LINZE:    Thank bye bye
01:45:20    Herb Waye Ombuds:    Bye all stay safe and be kind
01:45:21    Cheryl Langdon-Orr:    transcript is a boon agreed
01:45:25    Claudia Ruiz - ICANN Org:    Thank you all!

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