07:59:02 From Steinar Grøtterød to Everyone:
Hi. I have to leave the call at 13:30 UTC.
07:59:45 From Jonathan Zuck to Everyone:
Not just connected, CW, forever bound...
07:59:49 From Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Thank you Steinar
08:00:02 From Evin Erdogdu to Everyone:
Hello all, welcome!
08:01:15 From Steinar Grøtterød to Everyone:
It is summer! We should be on the beach - not on a call :-)
08:01:28 From Priyatosh Jana to Everyone:
hi everyone.... greetings from India
08:02:10 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
Hello all
08:02:19 From Dave Kissoondoyal to Everyone:
Hello everyone
08:03:00 From Jonathan Zuck to Everyone:
@Steiner, I took ICANN 68 from the beach with VR headset
08:03:45 From alangreenberg to Everyone:
Could we do the EPDP-RDDS first in that section, I will need to leave early.
08:03:55 From iPad (27)Vanda Scartezini to Everyone:
Good day to all!
08:04:22 From Herb Waye Ombuds to Everyone:
Greetings everyone. Nice to “see” you all today.
08:04:37 From Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org to Everyone:
To follow along with the RTT: https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN [streamtext.net]
08:04:48 From iPad (27)Vanda Scartezini to Everyone:
I Will atend just the beginning reason why I have apologize
08:05:24 From Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Welcome Vanda! (I will adjust the wiki ;)
08:09:10 From Jonathan Zuck to Everyone:
VERY good
08:13:02 From Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org to Everyone:
To follow along with the RTT: https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN [streamtext.net]
08:13:38 From Lutz Donnerhacke to Everyone:
Sorry, I'm late. Coffee break with my wife had overridden my priorities.
08:13:52 From JUDITH' hellerstein to Everyone:
Monitoring this session in another device so may have to leave if I need to participate in the other session
08:13:56 From Michel TCHONANG LINZE CAPDA CMR to Everyone:
Hi everyone
08:14:21 From Marita Moll to Everyone:
Sorry to be late
08:19:35 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
Most of the time users don't know about the legal framework. What really affects them is the governance model
08:20:13 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
Thank you Christopher for your comments
08:21:28 From Marita Moll to Everyone:
Can I make comment re: the MSM session at the end of this -- as I arrived late
08:21:43 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
+1 Olivier
08:25:43 From Justine Chew to Everyone:
@Marita, plenaries enjoy no clash with other sessions, but non-plenary offer more control over session development.
08:26:11 From Justine Chew to Everyone:
So, it depends on which aspect you believe is more important.
08:27:22 From Sivan to Everyone:
Question: Does Euralo's session on protection of Geo names address the issues on a TLD level or also on a second level?
08:27:22 From Yrjo Lansipuro to Everyone:
@Marita, thank you for the idea of preparing a MSM session together with the GAC. Another great item for our joint agenda.
08:28:44 From Marita Moll to Everyone:
Thanks @ Justine. I saw that in action. I was just thinking a joint proposal from the outset would carry more weight re: public sessions. But not certain whether which one will serve best. We can chat about this at a GAC-ALAC mtg. It was great to get one of the "public sessions"
08:30:30 From Marita Moll to Everyone:
Since it is MSM, we really should be talking about the model in broad sessions
08:31:33 From Jonathan Zuck to Everyone:
@Marita, there's a broad organizing comm and there's a broad panel.
08:31:57 From Marita Moll to Everyone:
Right @JZ
08:32:19 From Steinar Grøtterød to Everyone:
If I have to leave before the update from the IRTP PDP: Thanks to Evin for clarification of the SO letter. In my opinion, At-Large do not have any comment to the letter.
However, the At-Large representatives are not in consensus in our input to the PDP. I kindly ask CPWG members to add their comments to https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xIEPkUXmtoHU-WzfqvR7Lv8o56kvKDHXf0tTobE5Ic4/edit?usp=sharing
According to Even, the SO letter is scheduled to go out July 1, hence we need to agree on the wording within July 1 2021.
Hopefully Daniel or Lutz can fill in.
08:32:32 From Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org to Everyone:
To follow along with the RTT: https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN [streamtext.net]
08:32:45 From Steinar Grøtterød to Everyone:
Sorry - I have to leave.
08:33:19 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
Johnathan please add what you have
08:33:45 From Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond to Everyone:
sorry to hear that @Steinar
08:34:15 From Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond to Everyone:
we'll ask one of your colleagues to follow-up on Tranfer Policy PDP
08:34:47 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
@Johnathan indeed interesting how do you do this balance/
08:34:49 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
?
08:35:08 From christopher wilkinson to Everyone:
NN credibility as an MSM entity.
08:36:24 From Justine Chew to Everyone:
+1 JZ written AIs would be good, easier to follow and track.
08:36:56 From Amrita Choudhury to Everyone:
+1 Justine
08:37:01 From Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Welcome back Sebastien
08:38:58 From Marita Moll to Everyone:
AI re MSM session -- start discussions with GAC re: joint session exploring ICANN's MSM and the broader Internet Governance model in ICANN72
08:41:16 From Yrjo Lansipuro to Everyone:
@Marita Noted - will be taken up with the GAC when we start preparing for ICANN72
08:43:57 From Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org to Everyone:
To follow along with the RTT: https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN [streamtext.net]
08:44:38 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
I watched the video
08:44:57 From Evin Erdogdu to Everyone:
Stay tuned for ICANN71 Policy Outcomes Report as well
08:45:30 From iPad (27)Vanda Scartezini to Everyone:
Thanks Haida and Christopher !
08:46:00 From iPad (27)Vanda Scartezini to Everyone:
I need to leave, I am sorry good meeting to all
08:46:16 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
Thanks Vanda bye
08:46:16 From Dave Kissoondoyal to Everyone:
Bye @Vanda
08:46:33 From Lutz Donnerhacke to Everyone:
Please comment on the letter from ALAC
08:47:12 From Lutz Donnerhacke to Everyone:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xIEPkUXmtoHU-WzfqvR7Lv8o56kvKDHXf0tTobE5Ic4/edit?ts=60c1225b#
08:47:22 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
Alan please go ahead
08:47:30 From Lutz Donnerhacke to Everyone:
We Need to get this done tomorrow
08:48:04 From Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond to Everyone:
Ok Ltz -- I'll get onto this after the EPDP update
08:48:32 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
+ 1 Alan
08:48:42 From Lutz Donnerhacke to Everyone:
olivier, okay
08:48:53 From Evin Erdogdu to Everyone:
Thank you Alan, noted
08:49:37 From Maureen Hilyard to Everyone:
Thanks everyone for the excellent debrief on the ICANN71 sessions - very helpful for preparing for ICANN72. Ive been making notes :)
08:49:43 From Justine Chew to Everyone:
@JZ, @OCL, I offered some suggestions on AIs to follow up on SubPro / prep for next round of New gTLD applications at the ICANN71 ALAC-GAC Meeting on 17 June; see: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Meetings+-+Thursday%2C+17+June+2021. Haven't figured out how yet.
08:49:56 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
yes
08:50:10 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
we would have the answers as well - next time
08:50:51 From Amrita Choudhury to Everyone:
I am having an issue in understanding what the original draft was.
08:51:06 From Amrita Choudhury to Everyone:
Especially with so many comments
08:51:10 From Amrita Choudhury to Everyone:
Sorry for this
08:52:42 From Evin Erdogdu to Everyone:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MsaU6sc3TU3azo2-pCWW9A6GWJ0a7XzT/view
08:53:20 From Amrita Choudhury to Everyone:
Thanks for sharing Evin
08:55:08 From Lutz Donnerhacke to Everyone:
The document can only be commented by members of the TRP-PDP, not by Alternates or observers.
08:55:47 From Eduardo Diaz - NARALO to Everyone:
Where are we in the agenda?
08:56:41 From Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org to Everyone:
@Eduardo - Item 4, IGO Work Track Update
08:57:06 From Lutz Donnerhacke to Everyone:
On the ALAC letter to the TRP-group, there is an open controversy about the Point of view occupied by ALAC: Registrant-only or Registrar/Registry-considerations, hence the lot of edits
08:57:24 From Eduardo Diaz - NARALO to Everyone:
Thanks. It looked that it was part of the Transfer Policy
08:57:38 From Eduardo Diaz - NARALO to Everyone:
I ws not sure.
08:57:45 From Eduardo Diaz - NARALO to Everyone:
we=was
08:58:53 From Sivan to Everyone:
+1 on Yrjo on the validity and the legitimacy of the acronym / name as mentioned in a Treaty or a high level international document
09:00:12 From Dave Kissoondoyal to Everyone:
Thanks Yrjo
09:02:37 From alangreenberg to Everyone:
I have to leave now. We'll have board advice discussion on EPDP next week.
09:03:01 From Evin Erdogdu to Everyone:
Thank you Alan, noted
09:03:19 From alangreenberg to Everyone:
Need to leave now.
09:05:26 From Jonathan Zuck to Everyone:
Of course. It's understandable that would be their priority
09:05:49 From Eduardo Diaz - NARALO to Everyone:
The transfer policy is also registrant specific.
09:06:02 From Eduardo Diaz - NARALO to Everyone:
And we are commenting on it.
09:07:14 From Lutz Donnerhacke to Everyone:
I'v to leave
09:07:16 From Lutz Donnerhacke to Everyone:
sorry
09:08:22 From Eduardo Diaz - NARALO to Everyone:
Registrants are end-user that know more about the DNS
09:08:58 From Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond to Everyone:
@Eduardo: some registrants know less about the DNS than end users
09:09:31 From Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond to Everyone:
Most people registering a domain name ask their Web or hosting provider and that's all
09:12:00 From Evin Erdogdu to Everyone:
Thank you Jonathan, noted
09:14:26 From Evin Erdogdu to Everyone:
Upcoming GNSO EPDP on IDNs: See ICANN71 Outreach session resource materials: https://71.schedule.icann.org/meetings/TZvWRhnydWDPSE64v#/?limit=10&sortByFields%5B0%5D=isPinned&sortByFields%5B1%5D=lastActivityAt&sortByOrders%5B0%5D=-1&sortByOrders%5B1%5D=-1&uid=sRMo5hmLvvdHjHkao
09:14:27 From Justine Chew to Everyone:
@OCL, I don't think DAAR does what you just said.
09:15:17 From Jonathan Zuck to Everyone:
@Justine, I don't think so either but perhaps it could be broadened and made more granular to help end users. Now, as you say, it's not too helpful
09:15:30 From Justine Chew to Everyone:
EPDP on IDNs hasn't started yet.
09:16:22 From Marita Moll to Everyone:
Where was an e-mail from Maureen identifying members/participants re: IDN pdp - was there not?
09:16:34 From Justine Chew to Everyone:
@Siva, ALAC has 3 members on the EPDP on IDNs
09:16:35 From Dave Kissoondoyal to Everyone:
Thanks Evin
09:16:48 From Eduardo Diaz - NARALO to Everyone:
@MArita - Yes I received this week.
09:16:54 From Evin Erdogdu to Everyone:
Welcome @Dave
09:16:55 From Justine Chew to Everyone:
We are past that @Siva
09:17:20 From Maureen Hilyard to Everyone:
Satish is one of the MEMBER participant in the EPDP
09:17:36 From Justine Chew to Everyone:
the EPDP on IDNs is a Rep + Open model
09:17:37 From Eduardo Diaz - NARALO to Everyone:
The selected member representatives are:
Satish Babu (APRALO)
Lianna Galstyan (APRALO)
Abdulkarim Oloyede (AFRALO)
The selected participant representatives are:
Justine Chew (APRALO)
Hadia Elminiawi (AFRALO)
Gopal Tadepalli (APRALO)
09:17:50 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
Thank you
09:18:26 From Eduardo Diaz - NARALO to Everyone:
The EPDP on IDNs introduces a new participation model for EPDPs.
Members participate in the discussions and to decision-making activities - consensus calls or vote - based on the collective view of At-Large
Participants can participate substantively in all discussions, and can speak on their own behalf (not necessarily the collective perspective of At-Large, btu I would still hope so)
09:18:42 From Justine Chew to Everyone:
@Siva we moved onto PDP 3.0 framework for GSNO PDPs
09:19:19 From Justine Chew to Everyone:
GNSO PDPs
09:19:27 From Eduardo Diaz - NARALO to Everyone:
@Justine PDP 3.0 is the same as EPDP 3.0?
09:19:30 From Dave Kissoondoyal to Everyone:
All observations are valuable i think
09:19:33 From Marita Moll to Everyone:
Yes, this new participation model looks interesting -- different kind of participation
09:20:04 From Justine Chew to Everyone:
@Eduardo, there is no EPDP 3.0
09:20:56 From Satish Babu (APRALO) to Everyone:
Yes, the model does look interesting...we should review it sometime in the future...
09:20:58 From Justine Chew to Everyone:
@Eduardo, PDP 3.0 is the GNSO framework for establishing PDP WG, whether EPDP, PDP with open model, or rep + open or just rep model.
09:21:09 From Evin Erdogdu to Everyone:
Thank you @Justine
09:22:25 From Jonathan Zuck to Everyone:
of course DAAR is just a roll up of those independent reports...
09:22:46 From Eduardo Diaz - NARALO to Everyone:
@ Justine so is the EPDP on IDN adopting/following the PDP 3.0 model?
09:22:50 From Marita Moll to Everyone:
@Satish -- we should compare the models that have/are being tried at the moment. Maybe a topic for a forum at ICANN72 -- or maybe too controversial?
09:23:17 From Justine Chew to Everyone:
DAAR draws data from contracted parties, some ccTLDs and credible RBL providers
09:23:22 From Satish Babu (APRALO) to Everyone:
@Marita, yes, that would be good...
09:23:27 From Eduardo Diaz - NARALO to Everyone:
@Satiah: Not asure what model are you referring to
09:23:30 From Chokri Ben Romdhane to Everyone:
Thank you all
09:23:50 From Satish Babu (APRALO) to Everyone:
Ed, we are trying to compare the pre-3.0 PDP model vs 3.0.
09:24:16 From Satish Babu (APRALO) to Everyone:
...especially from the point of view of our participation.
09:24:18 From Justine Chew to Everyone:
It doesn't draw from ALL RBL providers, only credible ones based on criteria drawn up by OCTO
09:24:31 From Michelle DeSmyter - ICANN Org to Everyone:
Next meeting: Wednesday, 30 June 2021 at 19:00 UTC
09:24:32 From Marita Moll to Everyone:
@ed -- and the different version of 3.0 participation
09:24:35 From Herb Waye Ombuds to Everyone:
Very informative meeting. Thank you all. Stay safe and be kind.
09:24:36 From Dave Kissoondoyal to Everyone:
Thanks and bye to all
09:24:42 From Eduardo Diaz - NARALO to Everyone:
Yes but we are talking about EPDPs here. Hence my question about PDP 3.0 and EPDP X.X
09:24:43 From Evin Erdogdu to Everyone:
Thank you all! As always. See you next week :)
09:24:51 From hadia Elminiawi to Everyone:
Thank you all and bye for today
09:25:03 From Hanan Khatib to Everyone:
thank you a
09:25:17 From Marita Moll to Everyone:
also a time when we are trying to take a vacation
09:25:39 From Dave Kissoondoyal to Everyone:
Thanks to Staff and Interpreters as well
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