15:44:01 From Yesim Nazlar : Welcome to the At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group Call taking place on Wednesday, 08 April 2020 at 13:00 UTC.
15:44:15 From Yesim Nazlar : Agenda: https://community.icann.org/x/LDKJBw
15:46:07 From Marie Fresch Captioner : Good morning. Will you make me captioner. Thank you.
15:48:25 From Yesim Nazlar : yes, sure - done :)
15:56:36 From Yesim Nazlar : RTT Link: https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN [streamtext.net]
15:56:39 From vandascartezini : HI EVERYONE. I HAVE ANOTHER CALL IN HALF HOUR SO I WILL SATART WISHING YOU ALL GREAT EASTER/PASSOVER WITH LOVE AND PEACE.
15:57:17 From Holly Raiche : Thank you Vanda - and celebration wishes to you
15:57:23 From Alfredo Calderon : @Vanda, thank you. Same to you.
15:57:45 From LILIAN IVETTE DE LUQUE : Hi all
15:58:02 From Priyatosh Jana : hi everyone... greetings from India
15:58:05 From Aris Ignacio : Hello everyone! :-)
15:58:28 From Dave Kissoondoyal : hello everyone - From Mauritius
15:59:19 From Hadia Elminiawi : hello all
15:59:32 From Jamie Houchen : can you make me the captioner?
15:59:56 From Judith Hellerstein : It is fine for me
15:59:59 From Holly Raiche : @ Hadia - you are fine but Yesim is very muffled
16:00:20 From Lutz Donnerhacke : You have a disturbed audio
16:00:32 From Evin Erdogdu : Hello all, welcome.
16:00:32 From Holly Raiche : Better
16:00:35 From Lutz Donnerhacke : Yep!
16:00:43 From Hadia Elminiawi : Yes, thanks
16:02:14 From Marie Fresch Captioner : Will you make me captioner again
16:02:55 From Marie Fresch Captioner : Just Marie
16:03:19 From vandascartezini : CAN YOU ALLOW IT FOR ME?
16:03:23 From Bakary KOUYATE : Hi all!
16:05:02 From vandascartezini : THANKS
16:05:58 From Holly Raiche : @ JZ - we are used to a much stronger voice
16:07:46 From Yesim Nazlar : RTT Link: https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN [streamtext.net]
16:08:01 From Alfredo Calderon : @Glenn will be a panelist at - https://livestream.com/internetsociety/fakenews2 in a few minutes.
16:08:53 From LILIAN IVETTE DE LUQUE : Yes Alfredo in our SIG Rural Development is a very interesting webinar
16:10:28 From Michel TCHONANG : Hi everyone
16:11:13 From Holly Raiche : Will there be an opportunity to comment on
16:12:00 From Holly Raiche : the PDP3 and, if so, approximately when?
16:12:08 From Judith Hellerstein : ISOC DC is having an encryption webinar now as well. With Jeff Wilbur
16:12:13 From Alfredo Calderon : I would also recommend to consult CBWG to expando on the audience that can participant on such CPWG Single Issue Calls.
16:13:37 From Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond : @Holly: yes we expect that the ALAC will be providing comments on PDP 3.0 - at this moment it is unsure as to *when*
16:13:54 From Holly Raiche : Thanks OCL
16:14:57 From Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond : @Alfredo: the information about these single issue calls will be forwarded to the CBWG for action. Good idea, to get a wider audience.
16:28:51 From Jonathan Zuck : CCT found that money was not the biggest issue. Biz model was more of an issue
16:29:41 From Justine Chew : Thanks @Jonathan
16:30:44 From Eduardo Diaz - NARALO : Maybe say that ICANN will match $ per $ invested
16:33:09 From christopher wilkinson : Lost sound
16:33:14 From christopher wilkinson : OK
16:33:16 From Alfredo Calderon : @Eduardo, If that is done, it implies a new budget item with future Annual Financial plans.
16:33:51 From Marita Moll : Christopher has a point. Early warning to development banks could be useful. Canada, for example, has an Export Development Bank, which could be a target for such information.
16:36:43 From Marita Moll : Could the pro bono move into these more fuzzy areas
16:37:11 From Justine Chew : I'll come back to you Holly
16:37:30 From Betty Fausta : @Justine you talk about some pro Bono actions. do you have a link or example for newcomers please?
16:38:19 From Justine Chew : @Betty, please check the in the slides.
16:38:35 From Evin Erdogdu : Noted
16:38:40 From Jonathan Zuck : Has any of this come up in Auction Proceeds
16:40:26 From Betty Fausta : tks
16:40:54 From Holly Raiche : Even just the Applicant Book was $185,000!
16:41:18 From Betty Fausta : @tks Justine. will find the slides on the Portal
16:41:22 From Marita Moll : That's 10 applicants -- that's all
16:41:45 From Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond : Good question @Justine! in the current climate, how do we recommend ICANN to spend more money? :-)
16:42:33 From Daniel K. Nanghaka : It depends on what ICANN is spending on money - and this will need more discussion from the Finance team
16:44:52 From Michel TCHONANG : You're absolutely right Daniel
16:44:54 From christopher wilkinson : Have to step away for a while. Noted that I shall do a pro forma structure of costs and revenues of a hypothetical start-up Registry.
16:45:16 From Marita Moll : This does not indicate how they would go about educating -- Jonathon is getting at it
16:45:40 From Holly Raiche : I think that is relevant to what Christopher was saying
16:45:43 From Marita Moll : The devil is in the details
16:45:56 From vandascartezini : @Jonnathan agree - and also by my experience here on 2012 round the expectation of cost to run such business.
16:46:59 From Holly Raiche : This ties in with the amount of actual applicant support as above
16:47:21 From Holly Raiche : We just suggested it won’t be
16:49:07 From vandascartezini : @HOLLY - in my experience in 2021 the main demand of help was to answer all questions and give the applicant a view on what would be need to set up the operataion
16:49:47 From Marita Moll : Okay -- I know that was fuzzy, Justine. I will try to come up with some wording
16:49:58 From Jonathan Zuck : Was just going to ask again whether this has come up in the Auction Proceeds discussion
16:49:58 From Holly Raiche : @ Vanda - thanks, all helpful in being realistic about what helps really needed
16:50:38 From Jonathan Zuck : Yeah, not n umber. Just a more exhaustive list of what the assistance should entail
16:50:59 From Holly Raiche : We did talk about the problems of communication in reaching out to underserved areas - which does impact on numbers of applicant
16:51:48 From Holly Raiche : @JZ - agree
16:51:59 From Marita Moll : Right @Holly. It all depends on how effective the outreach is.
16:53:58 From Justine Chew : @Jonathan, someone from Auction Proceeds has to answer you.
16:53:59 From Holly Raiche : Not really
16:56:32 From Alan Greenberg : Regarding Auctions, the Board could use auction funds to fund this subsidy, but there is really no practical way to use auction funds AFTER they are transferred to the dispersal mechanism (ie the group accepting project applications).
16:57:34 From Bastiaan Goslings : Fyi I need to leave, have another call to attend - take care, all
16:58:49 From Daniel K. Nanghaka : I agree
16:59:00 From Marita Moll : @Alan Maybe money from auction proceeds is the community kitty that could top up the $2M if necessary -- sort of what I was getting at
17:01:40 From Judith Hellerstein : @jonathan, I was on an encryption call so did not hear your auction proceeds question could you restate it
17:01:42 From Alan Greenberg : @Marita, yes, that is one option, but with 100M-240M in the auctions process, and ICANN being budget constrained, I suspect the auction pool will be an easy place to get the whole funding. And historically, that *IS* one of the prime examples of the use of the auction funds.
17:03:21 From Lutz Donnerhacke : I've to leave, sorry
17:04:40 From Judith Hellerstein : @marita, the best way is to get funding is for the applicants to put in an application but it is unlikely that it will go to any icann constituency
17:04:43 From Marita Moll : Thanks Justine. Well done. A complex set of issues
17:05:10 From Hadia Elminiawi : webinar
17:05:30 From Nadira AL-ARAJ : thank you Justine
17:05:30 From Holly Raiche : I actually like the colour
17:06:29 From Justine Chew : My apologies for going WELL over time, but I thank everyone for your participation. I was hoping very much that we could get through in 30 minutes instead of having to run too many separate single issue calls.
17:08:26 From Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond : @Justine: these Sub Pro are complex issues and it is pretty hard to complete so much in 30 minutes. But great preparation, and I hope that the discussion will continue on our CPWG mailing list!
17:08:54 From Hadia Elminiawi : Thank you Justine, you did cover a lot though
17:09:00 From Holly Raiche : Note for comments for the PDP3
17:10:51 From Justine Chew : I would love to get feedback on the structure of the SubPro presentation - whether people found the background materials helpful or not.
17:12:05 From Hadia Elminiawi : @holly thanks for the reminder
17:12:11 From Justine Chew : @Alan @Hadia, oh dear!
17:12:37 From Hadia Elminiawi : 5th May is the deadline
17:12:55 From Hadia Elminiawi : to comment on the addendum
17:13:02 From Vanda's iPhone 5 : I sure have see those as quite helpful Justine since I am not being able to attend the calls due the conflict of other several call for business I am involving on - Thank you Justine for your work !
17:14:19 From Holly Raiche : Is anyone other than the contracted parties happy with the outcome to date???
17:14:44 From Marita Moll : Indeed @ Vanda. Justine has reduced the information into bits we can deal with. That's a huge job and she does it so well
17:16:50 From Hadia Elminiawi : Exactly Olivier we thought that improvements in SLAs and automation of use cases is an implementation issue that we could allow through this policy
17:17:03 From Justine Chew : @Betty, this may be what you asked for. https://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/candidate-support#pro-bono
17:17:28 From Hadia Elminiawi : But I think moving towards more centralization as Alan mentioned could be also a solution
17:17:50 From Holly Raiche : Heaven help us….
17:17:50 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : correct @Alan
17:18:04 From Justine Chew : X10 @Holly
17:18:22 From Michel TCHONANG : AGREE ALAN
17:19:36 From Roberto : @Alan +1, support
17:19:38 From Justine Chew : Yes, please, thanks @Alan and @Hadia
17:19:49 From Holly Raiche : Yes, big thanks to Justine
17:19:58 From Hadia Elminiawi : Thank you Alan and all I shall need to leave to a NomCom meeting
17:20:05 From Holly Raiche : There WILL be trouble ahead
17:20:19 From Hadia Elminiawi : bye for now
17:21:20 From Judith Hellerstein : For Travel Guidelines, https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YfFqFwlY_mkWEiB4oPZKCrZy0FZ5BRwjGYB_Axr1KIw/edit
17:21:26 From Judith Hellerstein : please comment on the wiki
17:21:41 From Judith Hellerstein : or the google doc
17:21:53 From Justine Chew : THe MEAC Strategy 2021-2025 was good. Thank you to the penholders!
17:22:14 From Justine Chew : The MEAC Strategy 2021-2025 comment I mean.
17:23:25 From Judith Hellerstein : Travel Guidelines is Sarah Kiden’s first Policy comment she is helping to draft
17:23:37 From Judith Hellerstein : So all new people can come and help write policy comments
17:24:40 From Justine Chew : @Jonathan, how about NextGen Program? Goes under O&E too?
17:25:28 From Judith Hellerstein : my hand is up
17:25:37 From Holly Raiche : Makes a lot of sense
17:26:35 From Joanna Kulesza : I'd use CBWG instead of o&e and this indeed includes next-gen Justine
17:26:47 From Nadira AL-ARAJ : I like this division presented by JZ
17:26:55 From Alan Greenberg : Is there a restriction on FBSC meeting participation??? There never was before.
17:27:12 From Justine Chew : @Joanna, okay, CBWG doesn't feature in Jonathan's table :)
17:27:36 From Judith Hellerstein : @alan it is a closed committee
17:27:40 From Ricardo Holmquist : You´re right Alan there is no limit to participation, it is only for some voting that you require a RALO representation
17:27:43 From Michel TCHONANG : Good ideas
17:27:48 From Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond : @Alan: yes FBSC is a small committee with appointed members at present
17:27:52 From Judith Hellerstein : But it is only sent out the a smaller list
17:28:00 From Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond : Each RALO appoints a member & also an ALAC member
17:28:02 From Heidi Ullrich : The FBSC calls are open.
17:28:06 From Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond : so this would need to change and open up
17:28:17 From Michel TCHONANG : Yes Olivier
17:28:24 From Judith Hellerstein : You can come on as an observer but that is not known
17:28:38 From Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond : calls are open but there is a minimum participation requirement for FBSC that all RALOs need to be represented on a call for example
17:28:41 From Heidi Ullrich : The FBSC has members that are appointed from the region. Participants are welcome.
17:29:00 From Judith Hellerstein : Yes but we need to get away from appointing members
17:29:04 From Michel TCHONANG : note HEIDI
17:29:17 From Judith Hellerstein : and that everyone can be a member and participants
17:29:26 From Abdulkarim Oloyede : yes +1 on name change
17:29:35 From davekissoondoyal : +1 Marita
17:29:35 From Judith Hellerstein : WE could have a small subcommittee to focus on the RALO issues
17:29:39 From Ricardo Holmquist : @Judith: the appointed member will still be needed for things like ABR approval
17:30:04 From Betty Fausta : Justine Chew for link sharing.
17:30:09 From Judith Hellerstein : Yes but they could be in a smaller committee
17:30:12 From Abdulkarim Oloyede : is there any reason why FBSC was closed in the first place?
17:30:25 From Marita Moll : People shy away from the financial & budgeting issues
17:30:42 From davekissoondoyal : It was never closed
17:31:12 From Heidi Ullrich : @AK, the FBSC is not a closed group.
17:31:14 From Judith Hellerstein : New Hand
17:31:24 From Heidi Ullrich : It has Members and Participants.
17:31:29 From Alan Greenberg : @AK, it was never closed. It had members appointed by the ALAC and RALOs to ensure regional balance and that the people had formal responsibility to speak on behalf of the RALOs.
17:31:32 From Abdulkarim Oloyede : Ok thanks Heidi
17:31:55 From Michel TCHONANG : Thank Heidi
17:32:14 From Betty Fausta : have to go. thanks everyone
17:32:25 From Heidi Ullrich : As noted on the FBSC workspace:
17:32:25 From Heidi Ullrich : The tasks of the FBSC include, but are not limited to:
Coordination of annual additional budget requests from the ALAC and RALOs, to go into the yearly ICANN budget
Drafting any statement related to the ICANN budget process
Drafting any statement regarding ICANN operating plan
Drafting any statement related to the ICANN strategic process, including:
the Multistakeholder Model
Organizational reviews
Issues involving the Constituency Travel budget
17:32:50 From Judith Hellerstein : But it needs a new name
17:32:59 From Heidi Ullrich : Re membership:
17:32:59 From Nadira AL-ARAJ : more effective
17:33:00 From Heidi Ullrich : The ALAC Subcommittee on Finance and Budget (FSBC) is tasked with preparing statements and requests related to ALAC strategy and finance. The FSBC is a diverse group geographically, which requires at least one member from the ALAC representing an Regional At-Large Organisation (RALO), and at least two At-Large members from each RALO.
All FBSC calls are open to observers, but membership of the working group is closed. Only RALOs may nominate members to the FBSC, upon request of the Chair of the FBSC.
17:33:01 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : well worth exploring
17:33:09 From Judith Hellerstein : and I suggest it be created as I suggested
17:33:43 From Abdulkarim Oloyede : Thank Alan
17:33:58 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Correct @Alan SC's are specifically different in that way
17:34:15 From Daniel K. Nanghaka : O&E still sets Regional Strategies
17:35:05 From Justine Chew : I don't think there's a problem with the existing way we manage the FBSC.
17:35:12 From Michel TCHONANG : Thank you very much
17:35:59 From Judith Hellerstein : Only days I am available are mon/tuesday/friday
17:36:12 From Judith Hellerstein : I am off for passover holidays and not on email
17:36:35 From Joanna Kulesza : @Jonathan @Daniel happy to talk if tracing a line between O&E and CB would bee useful. equally happy to keep working step by step in close collaboration.
17:36:56 From Marita Moll : NOthing ready to go
17:37:11 From Abdulkarim Oloyede : I was thinking what we have is a proposal. Are we implementing straight away?
17:37:26 From Daniel K. Nanghaka : @Joanna - All is cool so far
17:38:07 From Joanna Kulesza : +1 Daniel:)
17:38:22 From Alan Greenberg : Need to go now. Thanks all.
17:38:36 From Evin Erdogdu : Correct
17:38:41 From Jonathan Zuck : Agree @Joanna and @Daniel. I’m unclear about the distinction and I chose O&E and capacity building are probably worthy of some conflation perhaps?
17:39:37 From Evin Erdogdu : Survey link: https://forms.gle/skiGiio5n4UXu9G57
17:40:14 From Joanna Kulesza : I'm always strongly against picket fencing unless absolutely necessary @Jonathan. Daniel and I will flag that need should it come up;)
17:40:15 From Nadira AL-ARAJ : the survey were informative as well
17:41:35 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Bye for now then...
17:41:39 From davekissoondoyal : Thanks and bye to all. Stay safe and stay at home
17:41:41 From Aris Ignacio : Thanks everyone and stay safe!
17:41:50 From Nadira AL-ARAJ : stay safe
17:41:59 From christopher wilkinson : B’ye , Thankyou Justine and all others. CW
17:42:01 From Michel TCHONANG : thanks all and bye
17:42:04 From Daniel K. Nanghaka : Thank you all and stay safe
17:42:07 From Marita Moll : Lots of material covered. Thanks everyone
17:42:07 From Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong : thanks and bye and stay safe
17:42:32 From Judith Hellerstein : I am an apology for that call
17:42:35 From Ricardo Holmquist : bye, take care
17:42:39 From Alberto Soto : Thanks, bye bye!! Stay Safe!
17:42:47 From Satish Babu : Thanks for an informative meeting...and stay safe!
17:42:52 From Evin Erdogdu : Thank you all!
17:42:58 From Roberto : Noted. Bye.
17:43:02 From Joanna Kulesza : thanks all
17:43:03 From Alfredo Calderon : Keep safe!
17:43:11 From Hanan Khatib : thsnk you all
17:43:15 From Gordon Chillcott : Thanksand bye for now
17:44:35 From Anne-Marie Joly-Bachollet : bye
