Date: Wednesday, 01 December 2021
Time: 21:00 - 22:30 UTC (for the time in various time zones click here)
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Spanish Conference ID = 4545
French Conference ID = 8585
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Action Items: EN
Recording: EN, ES, FR
Zoom Recording: EN
Zoom Chat: EN
Participants:
EN: Olivier Crépin-Leblond, Dr. Gopal, Maureen Hilyard, Cheryl Langdon-Orr, Gordon Chillcott, Holly Raiche, Sivasubramanian Muthsuamy, Yrjo Lansipuro, Glenn McKnight, John McCormac, Michael Palage, Roberto Gaetano, Lutz Donnerhacke, Justine Chew, Hadia Elminiawi, Avri Doria, Alan Greenberg, Claire Craig, Jose Lebron, ABdulkarim Oloyede, Chokri Ben Romdhane, Sarah Kiden, Raymond Mamattah, Issac Maposa, Jeffrey Neuman, Christopher Wilkinson, Sebastien Bachollet, Pari Esfadari, Daniel Nanghaka, Ejikeme Egbuogu, Judith Hellerstein, Vernatius Ezeama, Jonathan Zuck, Bill Jouris,
FR: Anne Marie Joly-Bachollet,
ES:
Apologies: Priyatosh Jana, Alfredo Calderon, Lianna Galstyan, Lilian Ivette De Luque Bruges, Steinar Grøtterød, Alberto Soto, K Mohan Raidu,
Observer: Herb Waye
Staff: Heidi Ullrich, Evin Erdoğdu, Liz Le, Sam Eisner, Claudia Ruiz
ES Interpreters: Marina & Veronica
FR Interpreters: Claire & Jacques
Call Management: Claudia Ruiz
AGENDA
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English (EN)
1. Welcome and intro - staff (2 minutes)
2. Adoption of agenda, review of Action Items from 24 November - Olivier Crépin-Leblond (3 minutes)
3. Presentation and Q&A on ICANN Public Comment: Proposed Revisions to the ICANN Documentary Information Disclosure Policy - Liz Le, Associate General Counsel, ICANN org (20 minutes)
4. Follow-up presentation and Q&A on Expedited Policy Development Process (EPDP) on the Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs) - Satish Babu, Lianna Galstyan, Abdulkarim Oloyede, Hadia El Minawi & Justine Chew and (30 minutes)
5. Board Advice - Status Update and ALAC/At-Large Process - Olivier Crépin-Leblond and Jonathan Zuck (15 mins)
- ALAC Advice to ICANN Board on EPDP Phase 2 - Alan Greenberg and Hadia El Miniawi
See: Google Doc for comment - ALAC Advice to the ICANN Board on Subsequent Procedures - Justine Chew
6. Workgroup updates
At-Large Workspace: Transfer Policy Review Policy Development Process (PDP) & GNSO Workspace: Transfer Policy Review Policy Development Process (PDP) (10 minutes)
At-Large Representatives
ALAC Members: Steinar Grøtterød and Daniel Nanghaka
ALAC Alternates: Raymond Mamattah and Lutz Donnerhacke
ALAC Observers: Chokri Ben Romdhane, Hans Bathija, K Mohan Raidu, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
See: Losing FOA Working Document, Auth-Info Codes Working Document and Additional Security Measures
At-Large Representatives
ALAC Members: Yrjö Lansipuro and Justine Chew
ALAC Alternates: Vanda Scartezini and Carlos Raul Gutierrez
ALAC Observers: N/A
At-Large Representatives
ALAC Members: Hadia Elminiawi and Alan Greenberg
ALAC Alternate: Holly Raiche
ALAC Observers: Bastiaan Goslings, Kris Seeburn, Isaac Maposa, Eduardo Diaz, Gladys Maldonado, Yrjö Lansipuro, Olivier Crépin-Leblond, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy, Matthias Hudobnik, Alfredo Calderon, Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong, Antonio Medina Gómez, Ryan Finnesey, Jahangir Hossain, Oluwaseun Ajani
At-Large Workspace: Expedited Policy Development Process (EPDP) on the Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs) & GNSO Workspace: Expedited Policy Development Process (EPDP) on the Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs) (30 minutes - featured presentation)
At-Large Representatives
ALAC Members: Satish Babu, Lianna Galstyan and Abdulkarim Oloyede
ALAC Participants: Justine Chew and Hadia Elminiawi
At-Large Workspace: Registration Data Accuracy (RDA) Scoping Team & GNSO Workspace: Registration Data Accuracy (RDA) Scoping Team TBD (10 minutes)
At-Large Representatives
ALAC Member: Alan Greenberg
7. Policy comment updates - Jonathan Zuck, Evin Erdoğdu, drafting team member(s) and all (10 minutes)
Upcoming Public Comment Proceedings
Proposal for Myanmar Script Root Zone Label Generation Rules (LGR) CPWG
The Myanmar script community has formed the Myanmar script Generation Panel (GP), which in turn has developed the Proposal for the Myanmar Script Root Zone Label Generation Rules. As per the LGR Procedure, this proposal is being posted for public comments to allow those who have not participated in the Myanmar script GP to make their views known to the GP. Based on the feedback, the Myanmar script GP will finalize the proposal for submission for integration into the Label Generation Rules for the Root Zone.
ICANN Draft FY23-27 Operating and Financial Plan and Draft FY23 Operating Plan and Budget OFB-WG
The purpose of this Public Comment is to seek community input on ICANN's Draft FY23-27 Operating and Financial Plan and Draft FY23 Operating Plan and Budget.
Updates to the GNSO Statement of Interest (SOI) Procedures and Requirements CPWG
Possible (still tentative at this time) Public Comment proceeding on experiences with and/or possible modifications to the GNSO Statement of Interest (SOI) procedures and requirements.
NCAP Study 2: Impact and Data Sensitivity Analysis CPWG
The Impact and Data Sensitivity Analysis is a part of the Name Collision Analysis Project (NCAP) Discussion Group's work to produce a Study 2 report. The NCAP Discussion Group will consider the results of the Public Comment proceeding as it develops its draft report, expected to be published for Public Comment in March 2022.
Statement Name |
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TBC |
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CPWG |
Drafting team member(s): TBC |
8. Any other business (AOB) - Olivier Crépin-Leblond and all (3 minutes)
ICANN73 Plenary Topics Proposals due 13 December: Join the ICANN73 Planning Committee meeting tomorrow, Thursday, 2 December at 18 UTC.
9. Next Meeting - Olivier Crépin-Leblond and staff (2 minutes)
- CPWG meetings are held weekly on Wednesdays, at rotating times of 13 & 19 UTC
CPWG Resources
Español (ES)
1. Bienvenida y asistencia - staff (2 minutos)
2. Adopcion de la Agenda, revision de los Acciones a partir del 24 de noviembre - Olivier Crépin-Leblond (3 minutos)
4. Presentación sobre el proceso acelerado de elaboración de políticas (EPDP) sobre los nombres de dominio internacionalizados (IDN): Satish Babu, Lianna Galstyan, Abdulkarim Oloyede, Hadia El Miniawi y Justine Chew (30 minutos)
5. Actualizaciones del grupo de trabajo:
At-Large Workspace: Transfer Policy Review Policy Development Process (PDP) & GNSO Workspace: Transfer Policy Review Policy Development Process (PDP) (10 minutos)
At-Large Representatives
ALAC Members: Steinar Grøtterød and Daniel Nanghaka (apology)
ALAC Alternates: Raymond Mamattah and Lutz Donnerhacke
ALAC Observers: Chokri Ben Romdhane, Hans Bathija, K Mohan Raidu, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
Ver: Documento de trabajo de códigos de información de autenticación
At-Large Workspace: EPDP Specific Curative Rights Protections for IGOs (ex Work Track) & GNSO Workspace: EPDP Specific Curative Rights Protections for IGOs (ex Work Track) (10 minutos)
At-Large Representatives
ALAC Members: Yrjö Lansipuro and Justine Chew
ALAC Alternates: Vanda Scartezini and Carlos Raul Gutierrez
ALAC Observers: N/A
At-Large Workspace: Expedited Policy Development Process (EPDP) on the Temporary Specification for gTLD Registration Data & GNSO Workspace: Expedited Policy Development Process (EPDP) on the Temporary Specification for gTLD Registration Data (10 minutos)
At-Large Representatives
ALAC Members: Hadia Elminiawi and Alan Greenberg
ALAC Alternate: Holly Raiche
ALAC Observers: Bastiaan Goslings, Kris Seeburn, Isaac Maposa, Eduardo Diaz, Gladys Maldonado, Yrjö Lansipuro, Olivier Crépin-Leblond, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy, Matthias Hudobnik, Alfredo Calderon, Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong, Antonio Medina Gómez, Ryan Finnesey, Jahangir Hossain, Oluwaseun Ajani
At-Large Workspace: Expedited Policy Development Process (EPDP) on the Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs) & GNSO Workspace: Expedited Policy Development Process (EPDP) on the Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs) (10 minutos)
At-Large Representatives
ALAC Members: Satish Babu, Lianna Galstyan and Abdulkarim Oloyede
ALAC Participants: Justine Chew, Hadia Elminiawi
At-Large Registration Data Accuracy (RDA) Scoping Team Workspace & GNSO Registration Data Accuracy (RDA) Scoping Team Workspace TBD (10 minutes)
At-Large Representatives
ALAC Member: Alan Greenberg
ALAC Alternate: Hadia Elminiawi
5. Actualizaciones de comentarios sobre políticas - Jonathan Zuck, Evin Erdoğdu, miembro (s) del equipo de redacción y todos (20 minutos)
Recientemente Ratificados por el ALAC
- Ninguno
Próximos Procedimientos de Comentarios Públicos
Proposal for Myanmar Script Root Zone Label Generation Rules (LGR) CPWG
The Myanmar script community has formed the Myanmar script Generation Panel (GP), which in turn has developed the Proposal for the Myanmar Script Root Zone Label Generation Rules. As per the LGR Procedure, this proposal is being posted for public comments to allow those who have not participated in the Myanmar script GP to make their views known to the GP. Based on the feedback, the Myanmar script GP will finalize the proposal for submission for integration into the Label Generation Rules for the Root Zone.
ICANN Draft FY23-27 Operating and Financial Plan and Draft FY23 Operating Plan and Budget OFB-WG
The purpose of this Public Comment is to seek community input on ICANN's Draft FY23-27 Operating and Financial Plan and Draft FY23 Operating Plan and Budget.
NCAP Study 2: Impact and Data Sensitivity Analysis CPWG
The Impact and Data Sensitivity Analysis is a part of the Name Collision Analysis Project (NCAP) Discussion Group's work to produce a Study 2 report. The NCAP Discussion Group will consider the results of the Public Comment proceeding as it develops its draft report, expected to be published for Public Comment in March 2022.
Comentarios Publicos para decision
Ninguno
Declaracion actual (Consejo del ALAC, Comentario o Correspondencia)
Nombre del Comentario Público |
Comentarios del Público Cerrar |
Estado |
Grupo de Trabajo Asignado | Autor(es) |
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Proposal for Latin Script Root Zone Label Generation Rules |
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DRAFTING |
CPWG |
6. Otros temas (AOB) - Olivier Crépin-Leblond y todos (3 minutos)
7. Próxima reunion - Olivier Crépin-Leblond y staff (2 minutos)
- Las reuniones del CPWG se llevan a cabo semanalmente los miércoles, en horarios rotativos de 13 y 19 UTC.
CPWG Resources
Français (FR)
1. Accueil et appel nominal - personnel (2 minutes)
2. Adoption de l'ordre du jour, examen des points d'action à partir du 24 novembre - Olivier Crépin-Leblond (3 minutes)
4. Présentation sur le processus accéléré d'élaboration de politiques (EPDP) sur les noms de domaine internationalisés (IDN) - Satish Babu, Lianna Galstyan, Abdulkarim Oloyede, Hadia El Miniawi et Justine Chew (30 minutes)
5. Mises à jour du groupe de travail:
At-Large Workspace: Transfer Policy Review Policy Development Process (PDP) & GNSO Workspace: Transfer Policy Review Policy Development Process (PDP) (10 minutes)
At-Large Representatives
ALAC Members: Steinar Grøtterød and Daniel Nanghaka (apology)
ALAC Alternates: Raymond Mamattah and Lutz Donnerhacke
ALAC Observers: Chokri Ben Romdhane, Hans Bathija, K Mohan Raidu, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
At-Large Workspace: EPDP Specific Curative Rights Protections for IGOs (ex Work Track) & GNSO Workspace: EPDP Specific Curative Rights Protections for IGOs (ex Work Track) (10 minutes)
At-Large Representatives
ALAC Members: Yrjö Lansipuro and Justine Chew
ALAC Alternates: Vanda Scartezini and Carlos Raul Gutierrez
ALAC Observers: N/A
At-Large Workspace: Expedited Policy Development Process (EPDP) on the Temporary Specification for gTLD Registration Data & GNSO Workspace: Expedited Policy Development Process (EPDP) on the Temporary Specification for gTLD Registration Data (10 minutes)
At-Large Representatives
ALAC Members: Hadia Elminiawi and Alan Greenberg
ALAC Alternate: Holly Raiche
ALAC Observers: Bastiaan Goslings, Kris Seeburn, Isaac Maposa, Eduardo Diaz, Gladys Maldonado, Yrjö Lansipuro, Olivier Crépin-Leblond, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy, Matthias Hudobnik, Alfredo Calderon, Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong, Antonio Medina Gómez, Ryan Finnesey, Jahangir Hossain, Oluwaseun Ajani
At-Large Workspace: Expedited Policy Development Process (EPDP) on the Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs) & GNSO Workspace: Expedited Policy Development Process (EPDP) on the Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs) (10 minutes)
At-Large Representatives
ALAC Members: Satish Babu, Lianna Galstyan and Abdulkarim Oloyede
ALAC Participants: Justine Chew, Hadia Elminiawi, Gopal Tadepalli
At-Large Registration Data Accuracy (RDA) Scoping Team Workspace & GNSO Registration Data Accuracy (RDA) Scoping Team Workspace TBD (10 minutes)
At-Large Representatives
ALAC Member: Alan Greenberg
ALAC Alternate: Hadia Elminiawi
5. Mises à jour des commentaires sur la politique - Jonathan Zuck, Evin Erdoğdu, membre (s) de l'équipe de rédaction et tous (15 minutes)
- Non
Prochaines Procédures de Commentaires Publics
Proposal for Myanmar Script Root Zone Label Generation Rules (LGR) CPWG
The Myanmar script community has formed the Myanmar script Generation Panel (GP), which in turn has developed the Proposal for the Myanmar Script Root Zone Label Generation Rules. As per the LGR Procedure, this proposal is being posted for public comments to allow those who have not participated in the Myanmar script GP to make their views known to the GP. Based on the feedback, the Myanmar script GP will finalize the proposal for submission for integration into the Label Generation Rules for the Root Zone.
ICANN Draft FY23-27 Operating and Financial Plan and Draft FY23 Operating Plan and Budget OFB-WG
The purpose of this Public Comment is to seek community input on ICANN's Draft FY23-27 Operating and Financial Plan and Draft FY23 Operating Plan and Budget.
NCAP Study 2: Impact and Data Sensitivity Analysis CPWG
The Impact and Data Sensitivity Analysis is a part of the Name Collision Analysis Project (NCAP) Discussion Group's work to produce a Study 2 report. The NCAP Discussion Group will consider the results of the Public Comment proceeding as it develops its draft report, expected to be published for Public Comment in March 2022.
Commentaire public pour décision
Non
Déclarations actuelles (avis, commentaires ou correspondance de l'ALAC)
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Commentaire public Fermer |
Statut |
Groupe de travail assigné | Auteur(s) |
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DRAFTING |
CPWG |
6. Toute autre affaire (AOB) - Olivier Crépin-Leblond et tous (3 minutes)
7. Prochaine réunion - Olivier Crépin-Leblond et le personnel (2 minutes)
- Les réunions du CPWG ont lieu chaque semaine le mercredi, à des heures de rotation de 13 et 19 UTC.
2 Comments
Gopal Tadepalli
The Grace and Elegance of Statistics
"Relationship between Sample Size and Margin of Error"
The margin of error for sample estimates will shrink with the square root of the sample size.
Example:
For a sample of 200 the margin of error is 7.1% ; For 1000 it is 3.2% ; For 5000 it is 1.4%
In general, the amount by which the margin of error decreases is most substantial between samples sizes of 200 and 1500.
For many exercises in ICANN, I am of the opinion that unless the sample size is at least 1000, it may not be wise to even "pencil" an observation or state a trend. ICANN is wonderfully working with such complexities.
On a 5000 sample, there can be at most less than 2 cases that are not fitting. In other words 4998 are fitting a statement only 2 are not fitting is passable. But 3 not fitting is a question.
As the variability in the population of the sample increases, the margin of error increases. As the confidence level increases, the margin of error increases.
The Central Limit Theorem (CLT) is a statistical premise that, given a sufficiently large sample size from a population with a finite level of variance, the mean of all sampled variables from the same population will be approximately equal to the mean of the whole population. In other words all this always approximtes to ta a Bell Curve (NORMAL Distribution). The bell curve is always acceptable & reasonable to a due to its sheer symmetry. Sample sizes equal to or greater than 30 are often considered sufficient for the CLT to hold.
When sample sizes are small, as is often the case in practice, the Central Limit Theorem does not apply. One must then impose stricter assumptions on the sample to give statistical validity to the test procedure.
Is a simple and obvious poll outcome on a possible opinion enough for correctness ?
It can indicate "acceptability" for legitimacy.
An acceptable margin of error used by most survey researchers typically falls between 4% and 8% at the 95% confidence level. It is affected by sample size, population size, and percentage. Unfortunately this is a huge margin of error for the minds of technologists.
A higher margin of error in statistics indicates less likelihood of relying on the results of a survey or poll with an (arbitrary / random) sample.
We should always be wary of interpreting a statistically significant effect as reflecting a real effect but even more so in the case of small samples.
I leave it for the discerning beyond these observations.
Gopal Tadepalli
Steinar Grøtterød Yesim Nazlar
This is in response to the post dated Sun, 05 Dec 2021 19:13:46 +0530on the CPWG mailing list with the subject line : [CPWG] [GNSO-TPR] RrSG survey re: domain locks
Quick Note: It has been nicely noted that 30 day + 60 day = 61.9% which is good news.
I have been reading the Regostrar Domains Under Management [DUM] tabulated data as:
Group A:
0-5,000 : Zero to 30 Days - Attention
Group B
5,001 - 50,000 7 days 60 days
5,001 - 50,000 24 hours 24 hours
Group C:
50,001 - 100,000 60 days 60 days
Group D: Has the maximum 7 Subgroups
100,001 - 999,999 30 days 30 days
100,001 - 999,999 60 days 60 days
100,001 - 999,999 60 days 30 days
100,001 - 999,999 No lock No lock - Attention
100,001 - 999,999 No lock 24 hours
100,001 - 999,999 60 days 30 days
100,001 - 999,999 60 days 60 days
Group E: 60 Days is not seen here !!!
1-5 million No lock No lock - Attention
1-5 million 30 days 7 days
1-5 million 15 days 15 days
1-5 million 30 days 30 days
Group F:
5 million + 60 days 30 days
5 million + 60 days 60 days
5 million + 60 days 30 days
5 million + No lock No lock - Attention
5 million + 30 days 30 days
Into which group do the following top Domain Registrars given below belong to ?
Domain.com
Namecheap
Bluehost
HostGator
Google Domains
Hover
GoDaddy
Name.com
Hostinger
DreamHost
HostPapa
NameSilo
Dynadot
How many hazards did each group manage ?
It has been nicely noted that 30 day + 60 day = 61.9% which is good news.
In any case, I stand by the "worst - case design of 60 days" that is fully backed by
the history.
Hope such an analysis can happen some time as we move on with 60 days.
PS: I am sorry for double posts that can happen on the ICANN listserv mailing lists due to the mapping of both my e-mail IDs. I use two internally mapped e-mail IDs for managing the volume of mails received and to circumvent the size of attachments.