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Thursday,

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24 October 2019

Time: 19:00 - 20:30 UTC (for the time in various time zones click here) 

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How can I participate in this meeting?   

English Conference ID = 1638

Spanish Conference ID = 1738

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RTT Link: https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN [streamtext.net]

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Action Items:  EN      

Recording: EN, ES

Zoom Chat: EN

Transcript: EN, ES

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Dial-out Participants: 

EN: Maureen Hilyard, Cheryl Langdon-Orr, Holly Raiche, Jonathan Zuck, Kaili Kan, Jose Lebron, Gordon Chillcott, Dave Piscitello, John McCormac, Eduardo Diaz, Ricardo Holmquist, Justine Chew, Abdias Zambrano, Carlton Samuels, Glenn McKnight, Hadia Elimiawi, Judith Hellerstein, Lutz Donnerhacke, Roberto Gaetano, Yrjo Lansipuro

ES: Alberto Soto

Apologies: Olivier Crépin-Leblond, Marita Moll, Nadira Alaraj, Alan Greenberg, Lilian Ivette De Luque, Tijani Ben Jemma, Sebastien Bachollet, Leon Sanchez, John Laprise, Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong, Kaili Kan, Alfredo Calderon

Staff: Heidi Ullrich, Evin Erdoğdu, John Crain,   Claudia Ruiz

ES Interpreters: David and Veronica

Call Management: Claudia Ruiz

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At-Large Policy Resources

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Web Page of EPDP
EPDP on the Temporary Specification for gTLD Registration Data 
Keep Up with EPDP on the Temporary Specification for gTLD Registration Data
EPDP Background Documents

Agenda - EN

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1. Welcome and roll call - staff (2 minutes)

2. Adoption of agenda, review of Action Items

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16 October -

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Jonathan Zuck (3 minutes)

3. DNS Abuse: Presentation and Q&A with David Piscitello, Interisle Consulting Group (20 minutes)

Report: Criminal Abuse of Domain Names, Bulk Registration and Contact Information Access

4. EPDP Phase II Update - Hadia Elminiawi and Alan Greenberg (

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10 minutes)

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5. GeoNames Survey Next Steps - Jonathan Zuck (

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5 minutes)
See: DRAFT GeoNames Survey
See: GeoNames Videos in EN | ES

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6. ICANN66 Talking Points - Jonathan Zuck and all (

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5 minutes)
See: Draft ICANN66 Talking Points (comment-only)

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7. CPWG Charter and Workflow - Jonathan Zuck and all (5 minutes)
See: CPWG Process for Comment (comment-only)

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8. SubPro Updates - Justine Chew (

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5 minutes)

See: SubPro Updates Workspace for Updates to Issues/Topics under Deliberation by the Subsequent Procedures PDP WG

• For information: Revised Update update on the topic of Accountability Mechanisms Mechanism (Appeals) as at 16 Oct 2019 22 Oct

9.  Policy comment updates - Jonathan Zuck, Evin Erdoğdu and all (25 minutes) 

• For information: Revised update on the topic of Objections as at 5 Oct 2019 which was circulated via CPWG mailing list on 6 Oct.
• For information: Update on the topic of Community Applications as at 9 Oct 2019 which was circulated via CPWG mailing list on 9 Oct.
• Update on the topic of Auctions: Mechanisms of Last Resort, Private Resolution of Contention Sets (including Private Auctions) will be circulated after this call.

8.  Policy comment updates - Jonathan Zuck, Evin Erdoğdu and all (30 minutes) 

Recently Ratified by the ALAC 

None

Public Comment for Decision

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Recently Ratified by the ALAC 

Next Steps to Improve the Effectiveness of ICANN’s Multistakeholder Model
The ALAC summarized its comments as follows:

I. Strengthen ICANN’s bottom-up multistakeholder decision-making process and ensure that work gets done and policies are developed in an effective and timely manner.

Issue 1: Prioritization of work. ALAC feels this must be addressed (Category A). Some suggestions include: spreading the workload, increased outreach (ATLAS III, further incentives to keep contributing volunteers, adequate knowledge and resources (specified in II) The entire community,as well as ICANN.org must contribute to the resolution of this problem.

Issue 2: Precision in scoping the work. This issue may fall into Category A - must be addressed - or Category B -- might be partially addressed in current processes. We foresee scoping that is tight and smart and relevant to the process. It is impossible to say who should be responsible when so much activity around it is unresolved.

Issue 3: Efficient use of resources. This is a category A issue which must be addressed. We recognize that it might be partially addressed by current processes but cannot assess the situation until these processes are completed. We are concerned that PDP 3.0 may offer efficiency at the cost of inclusiveness which we feel would be a backwards step in the evolution of ICANN’s MSM.

Issue 4: Roles and responsibilities and a holistic view of ICANN. This is a category A issue although it will require further processes to resolve. ALAC seeks a bottom-up review of roles and responsibilities as an independent process. 

II. Support and grow active, informed and effective stakeholder participation.

Strategies to expand the concept of participation are offered as well as various resources and support needed to ensure informed participation. We consider this to be a Category A issue -- the model cannot evolve if it is not addressed. This is a major concern for At Large and other volunteer-based constituencies and all will need to be involved in addressing it. Support from ICANN,org and the Board will be necessary.

Issue 5: Representativeness and inclusiveness. Mentorship programs are a key part of ensuring that the MSM system remains representative and inclusive. Relevant constituencies as well as staff need to make sure these programs are working as they are intended and that they are reaching the right demographics. Inclusiveness at the leadership level needs to be improved through a bottom up process with staff assistance.

III. Sustain and improve openness, inclusivity, accountability and transparency.

Issue 6: Culture, trust and silos. This is a category A issue that needs to be addressed in this process. All constituencies need to reach across their boundaries, respect for other viewpoints must be reinforced. This is a problem in many large organizations and there are professional services available to help build trust and cooperation. By engaging some of these services, ICANN.org could help constituencies build a better working environment. 

Issue 7: Complexity. This is an inherent feature of ICANN work, but where it can be alleviated, ICANN.org should take the lead. Make sure information such as the website is well organized and understandable and closely monitor the internet governance environment for issues that will impact ICANN directly.

Issue 8: Consensus. Creating conditions that would facilitate consensus is the goal of the issues already listed. Preserving the voice of end users in the decision-making processes is crucial to ICANN’s MSM model -- a Category A issue in which all parties play a role but the role of the Board will be particularly important. 

In addition, the ALAC submitted comments in response to:

• Amazon Public Interest Commitments (PICs) 2019
• Invitation to Provide Feedback on the ICANN Board’s Proposed Public Interest Framework
• and confirmed an ALAC Question to the ICANN Board: Domain Name Abuse

Public Comment for Decision

Proposed IANA SLAs for Publishing LGRs/IDN Tables 25

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Nov 2019 

Current Statements (ALAC Advice, Comment or Correspondence)

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10. Any other business (AOB) -

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Jonathan Zuck and all (3 minutes)

Pre-ICANN66 Policy Report: https://go.icann.org/pre66
Blog on ICANN.org: Future Policy and Outreach Ambassadors to Attend the Third At-Large Summit (ATLAS III): https://go.icann.org/2Bc9Doa

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11.  Next Meeting -

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Jonathan Zuck and staff (2 minutes)

Agenda - ES

1. Bienvenida y asistencia - staff (2 minutos)

2. Adopcion de la Agenda, revision de los Items de Accion

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16 Octubre -

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Jonathan Zuck (3 minutos)

3. Abuso de DNS: presentación y preguntas y respuestas con David Piscitello, Interisle Consulting Group (20 minutos)
Informe: Abuso criminal de nombres de dominio, registro masivo y acceso a la información de contacto

4. Actualizacion de la Fase de EPDP - Hadia Elminiawi and Alan Greenberg (

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10 minutos) 

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5. Actualización de la encuesta GeoNames - Jonathan Zuck (

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5 minutos)
Ver: PROYECTO de encuesta GeoNames
Ver: Videos de GeoNames en EN | ES

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6. Proyecto de puntos de conversación de ICANN66 - Jonathan Zuck y todos (

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5 minutes)
Ver: Draft ICANN66 Talking Points (comment-only)

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7. Carta del CPWG y flujo de trabajo - Jonathan Zuck y todos (5 minutes)
Ver: CPWG Process for Comment (comment-only)

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8. Actualizaciones de SubPro - Justine Chew (

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5 minutos)

Ver: SubPro Updates Workspace para actualizaciones de temas / temas bajo deliberación por los procedimientos posteriores PDP WG

• Actualización revisada sobre el tema de los mecanismos de rendición de cuentas (llamamientos) a 16 de octubre de 2019 
  

  View file
  name 02. SubPro Accountability Mechanism [Appeals] as at 16.10.2019 for CPWG.pdf height 250

  Para información:  Actualización revisada sobre el tema de Objeciones al 5 de octubre de 2019 se distribuyó a través de la lista de correo CPWG el 6 de octubre.
• Para información: Actualización sobre el tema de las aplicaciones comunitarias a 9 de octubre de 2019 se distribuyó a través de la lista de correo CPWG el 9 de octubre.
• Actualización sobre el tema de las subastas: mecanismos de último recurso, resolución privada de conjuntos de contención (incluidas las subastas privadas) se distribuirá después de esta convocatoria.

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• del Mecanismo de Responsabilidad (Apelaciones) al 22 de octubre

9. Actualizaciones de comentarios sobre políticas - Jonathan Zuck, Evin Erdoğdu y todos (

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25 minutos)

Recientemente Ratificados por el ALAC 

Ninguno

Comentarios Publicos para decision

Next Steps to Improve the Effectiveness of ICANN’s Multistakeholder Model
The ALAC summarized its comments as follows:

I. Strengthen ICANN’s bottom-up multistakeholder decision-making process and ensure that work gets done and policies are developed in an effective and timely manner.

Issue 1: Prioritization of work. ALAC feels this must be addressed (Category A). Some suggestions include: spreading the workload, increased outreach (ATLAS III, further incentives to keep contributing volunteers, adequate knowledge and resources (specified in II) The entire community,as well as ICANN.org must contribute to the resolution of this problem.

Issue 2: Precision in scoping the work. This issue may fall into Category A - must be addressed - or Category B -- might be partially addressed in current processes. We foresee scoping that is tight and smart and relevant to the process. It is impossible to say who should be responsible when so much activity around it is unresolved.

Issue 3: Efficient use of resources. This is a category A issue which must be addressed. We recognize that it might be partially addressed by current processes but cannot assess the situation until these processes are completed. We are concerned that PDP 3.0 may offer efficiency at the cost of inclusiveness which we feel would be a backwards step in the evolution of ICANN’s MSM.

Issue 4: Roles and responsibilities and a holistic view of ICANN. This is a category A issue although it will require further processes to resolve. ALAC seeks a bottom-up review of roles and responsibilities as an independent process. 

II. Support and grow active, informed and effective stakeholder participation.

Strategies to expand the concept of participation are offered as well as various resources and support needed to ensure informed participation. We consider this to be a Category A issue -- the model cannot evolve if it is not addressed. This is a major concern for At Large and other volunteer-based constituencies and all will need to be involved in addressing it. Support from ICANN,org and the Board will be necessary.

Issue 5: Representativeness and inclusiveness. Mentorship programs are a key part of ensuring that the MSM system remains representative and inclusive. Relevant constituencies as well as staff need to make sure these programs are working as they are intended and that they are reaching the right demographics. Inclusiveness at the leadership level needs to be improved through a bottom up process with staff assistance.

III. Sustain and improve openness, inclusivity, accountability and transparency.

Issue 6: Culture, trust and silos. This is a category A issue that needs to be addressed in this process. All constituencies need to reach across their boundaries, respect for other viewpoints must be reinforced. This is a problem in many large organizations and there are professional services available to help build trust and cooperation. By engaging some of these services, ICANN.org could help constituencies build a better working environment. 

Issue 7: Complexity. This is an inherent feature of ICANN work, but where it can be alleviated, ICANN.org should take the lead. Make sure information such as the website is well organized and understandable and closely monitor the internet governance environment for issues that will impact ICANN directly.

Issue 8: Consensus. Creating conditions that would facilitate consensus is the goal of the issues already listed. Preserving the voice of end users in the decision-making processes is crucial to ICANN’s MSM model -- a Category A issue in which all parties play a role but the role of the Board will be particularly important. 

Además, el ALAC presentó comentarios en respuesta a:

• Amazon Public Interest Commitments (PICs) 2019
• Invitation to Provide Feedback on the ICANN Board’s Proposed Public Interest Framework
• y confirmó un ALAC Question to the ICANN Board: Domain Name Abuse

Comentarios Publicos para decisionRegistration Directory Service (RDS-WHOIS2) Review Team Final Report 25 Nov 2019 

Proposed IANA SLAs for Publishing LGRs/IDN Tables 25 Nov 2019 DRAFT PTI and IANA FY21 Operating Plan and Budgets 27 Nov 2019 

Declaracion actual (Consejo del ALAC, Comentario o Correspondencia)

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10. Otros temas (AOB) -

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Jonathan Zuck y todos (3 minutos)

Pre-ICANN66 Policy Report: https://go.icann.org/pre66
Blog on ICANN.org: Future Policy and Outreach Ambassadors to Attend the Third At-Large Summit (ATLAS III): https://go.icann.org/2Bc9Doa

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11. Próxima reunion -

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Jonathan Zuck y staff (2 minutos)