AT-LARGE GATEWAY
At-Large Regional Policy Engagement Program (ARPEP)
ALAC Liaisons and Representatives
At-Large Review Implementation Plan Development
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Participants:
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Eric
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Brunner-Williams,
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Olivier
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Crepin-Leblond,
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Cheryl
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Langdon-Orr,
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Evan
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Leibovitch,
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Jean-Jacques
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Subrenat,
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Kathy
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Kleiman
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Apologies:
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Cintra
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Sooknanan,
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Tijani
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Ben
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Jemaa
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Staff:
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Matthias
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Langenegger
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AI:
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Staff
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to
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link
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to
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a
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password-protected
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subpage
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on
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the
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AGAT
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WG
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with
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links
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to
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the
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docs.
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JJS:
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How
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are
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the
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experts
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on
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the
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expert
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panel
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chosen?
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EL:
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In
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the
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Rec
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6
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WG
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there
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seemed
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to
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be
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a
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consensus
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that
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the
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expert
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could
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be
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recruited
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as
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individuals.
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JJS:
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ALAC
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needs
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to
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be
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vigilant.
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In
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the
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case
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of
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the
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IRT,
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there
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were
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many
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objections
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and
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once
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the
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experts
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have
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been
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chosen,
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it
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is
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difficult
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to
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change
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it.
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2)
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With
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regards
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to
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the
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application
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process,
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could
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you
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point
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me
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to
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specific
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wording
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on
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applicant
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support
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for
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applicants
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from
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developing
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countries?
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EL:
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I
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would
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point
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you
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to
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the
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snapshot
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report
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of
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the
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JAS
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that
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came
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out
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before
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Brussels.
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Its
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milestone
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report
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contains
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some
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language
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but
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it
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has
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not
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been
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picked
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up
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by
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the
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applicant
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guidebook
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and
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not
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been
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accepted
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by
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the
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GNSO.
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The
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GNSO
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wanted
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to
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revise
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the
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charter
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of
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the
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JAS.
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There
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is
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some
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friction
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between
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the
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ALAC
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and
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the
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GNSO
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because
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of
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that.
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JJS:
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There
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seem
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to
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be
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different
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legal
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conceptions
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in,
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for
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example,
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the
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United
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States
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and
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Europe
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with
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regards
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to
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certain
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aspects
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of
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the
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Rec6
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document.
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EL:
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As
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far
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as
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I
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understand,
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legal
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experts
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have
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not
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vetted
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the
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Rec6
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WG
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document
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so
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far.
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OCL:
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1)
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Expert
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panel:
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this
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was
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discussed
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in
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the
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Special
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Trademark
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Interest
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(STI)
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group
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and
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no
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consensus
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was
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reached.
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2)
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Betrand
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de
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la
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Chappelle
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started
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a
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BOF
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meeting
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in
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Sydney
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but
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the
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debate
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did
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not
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evolve.
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3)
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The
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database
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clearing
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house,
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is
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an
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example
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of
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staff
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selectively
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implementing
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parts
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of
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a
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community
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document.
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EBW:
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The
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GNSO
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did
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not
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create
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a
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specific
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limitation.
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Many
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potential
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applicants
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are
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sponsored
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by
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GVT
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that
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do
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not
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fall
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in
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the
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current
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category.
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In
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addition
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to
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that,
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there
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are
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communities
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using
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multiple
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languages.
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We
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need
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to
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looks
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closely
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at
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the
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category
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issue.
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JJS:
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If
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time
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permits,
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I
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suggest
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that
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we
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look
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it
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into
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categories
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and
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categorization.
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There
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is
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a
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risk
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that
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applicants
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are
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repudiated
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because
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they
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fall
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into
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a
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certain
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category.
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Rather,
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we
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should
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focus
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on
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the
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concept
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of
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criteria.
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With
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regards
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to
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obscenity-based
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objections,
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the
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real
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question
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is
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whether
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we
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consider
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that
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States
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or
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GVTs
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will
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have
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the
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final
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word
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because
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this
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is
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an
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example
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of
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national
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law
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taking
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over
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international
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law.
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EL:
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Everythig
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ICANN
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does
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is
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commonly
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based
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on
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the
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assumption
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that
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countries
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are
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free
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to
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block
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its
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decisions
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on
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a
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national
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level.
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However,
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in
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my
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view,
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the
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proposal
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that
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GVT
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can
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veto
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proposals
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goes
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beyond
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that.
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JJS:
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1)
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In
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the
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multi-stakeholder
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environment,
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each
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community
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has
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its
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own
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goal.
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Each
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constituency
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protects
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the
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things
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it
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is
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most
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equipped
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to
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co.
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We
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as
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At-Large
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want
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something
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far-reaching
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but
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within
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the
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legal
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framework.
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2)
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National
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law
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always
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applies
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but
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in
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the
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preparatory
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stage,
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we
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are
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not
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required
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to
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choose
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sides
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based
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on
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what
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the
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GAC
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proposes.
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EL:
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A
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real-life
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example
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is
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.gay.
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If
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any
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country
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could
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veto
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gTLDs,
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it
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would
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lead
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to
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a
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lowest
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common
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denominator
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situation.
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JJS:
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Although
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we
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need
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to
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keep
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track
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of
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reality,
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we
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need
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to
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push
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the
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extension
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of
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human
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rights
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and
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dignity
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as
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far
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as
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we
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can.
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Whether
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the
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Board
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support
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this
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or
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not,
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is
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out
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of
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our
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sphere
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of
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influence.
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We
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should
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be
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the
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proponents
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of
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certain
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principles
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such
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as
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human
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rights,
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human
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dignity
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and
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social
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and
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economic
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development.
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OCL:
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Very
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interesting,
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JJS.
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I
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look
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at
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two
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examples:
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1)
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DotNazi.
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This
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is
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a
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bad
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example
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because
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it
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targets
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content.
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We
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would
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need
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to
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look
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at
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the
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content
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since
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a
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Holoast
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museum
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applying
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for
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.nazi
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would
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be
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perfectly
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okay.
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2)
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DotGay
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is
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different.
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It
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would
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fall
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under
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the
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category
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JJS
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mentioned.
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We
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should
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focus
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on
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that
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in
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particular
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as
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there
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will
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be
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applications
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for
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this.
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CLO:
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I
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agree
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with
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JJS.
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It
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is
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impossible
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for
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ICANN
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to
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get
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involved
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in
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content.
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We
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have
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always
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maintained
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this.
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KK:
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The
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notion
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that
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GVT
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can
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veto
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any
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POV
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they
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do
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not
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agree
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with
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is
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gaining
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ground.
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Even
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the
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US
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DOC
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has
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recently
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proposed
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this.
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We
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should
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be
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specific
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that
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anything
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that
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disintegrates
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the
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Internet
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is
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bad,
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including
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blocking
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TLDs.
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EBW:
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With
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regards
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to
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human
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rights
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and
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dignity,
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we
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should
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look
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at
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another
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issues.
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For
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example,
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we
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did
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not
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expect
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the
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explosion
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of
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Catalan
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text
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in
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the
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in
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DotCAT
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space.
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The
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Catalan
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language
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has
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grown
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enormously
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and
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there
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was
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a
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considerable
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growth
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in
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printed
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text
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that
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followed
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the
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growth
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in
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online
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text.
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While
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the
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threat
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that
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some
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TLDs
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such
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as
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DotGay
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will
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be
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blocked
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is
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hypothetical,
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there
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are
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already
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those
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non-hypothetical
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blocked
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TLDs
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for
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people
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whose
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language,
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script
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or
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cultural
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identity
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is
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not
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contained
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in
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the
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com,net,org,biz,info
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set
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of
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buckets,
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and
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is
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not
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served
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sufficiently
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by
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the
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cctld
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set
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of
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buckets.
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AI:
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EBW
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will
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take
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ownership
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for
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JAS-related
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issues
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(possible
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explicit
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categorization
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of
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applications
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and
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provisions
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such
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as
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reduced
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costs
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and/or
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streamlined
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processes
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for
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applicants
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meeting
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the
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criteria).
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AI:
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Evan
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will
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send
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an
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to
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the
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mailing
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list
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to
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find
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volunteers
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for
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the
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remaining
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issues.
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AI:
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JJS
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will
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take
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ownership
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on
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morality
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and
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obscenity
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issues.
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JJS:
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I
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would
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need
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a
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Skype
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chat
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with
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staff
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and/or
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Evan
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to
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be
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able
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to
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draft
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something
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on
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this.
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AI:
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Evan
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and
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JJS
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will
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have
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a
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Skype
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conversation
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to
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prepare
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the
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draft
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text
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on
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morality
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and
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obscenity
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issues.
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CLO:
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We
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should
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also
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be
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able
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to
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see
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the
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comments
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from
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other
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constituencies
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that
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represent
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users
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and
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registrants
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in
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ICANN.
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EBW:
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I
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would
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assign
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Amadeo
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Abril
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i
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Abril
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on
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the
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trademark
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issues.
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JJS
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supported
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this.
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AI:
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EBW
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will
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get
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in
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touch
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with
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Amadeo
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Abril
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i
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Abril
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and
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ask
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him
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to
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cover
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the
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trademark
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issues
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in
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the
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AGAT.
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The
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call
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was
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then
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adjourned.
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