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Evin Erdogdu:Welcome to the At-Large Technology Task Force Call on Monday, 13 February 2017 from 15:00 - 16:30 UTC.
judith hellerstein:Welcome all to the call
judith hellerstein:Glad we have some new people
judith hellerstein:Welcome all
Evin Erdogdu:The agenda page will be up shortly (edits just finalized!) Welcome all.
Alfredo Calderon:Hello to all! Saludos a todos!
Vanda Scartezini:hi all just in listen mode.. out of my office, very noise region
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:LOL
Satish Babu:Hi Mario!
Alfredo Calderon:Hola Mario, bienvenido! Welcome Mario.
Vanda Scartezini:welcome Mario
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:unsync agenda please
Vanda Scartezini:bienvenido
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:thank!
Mario Aleman:Thank you! Gracias,
Alfredo Calderon:@Dev, I agree with Olivier.
Alfredo Calderon:Did and it did not work.
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:yes thank you for testing this Alfredo
Alfredo Calderon:It worked at some point, before.
Mark Segall:I'm taking notes for the dev team
Alfredo Calderon:@Dev, that would limit calls to a at a time.
Alfredo Calderon:opps, one at a time.
Satish Babu:Not fully fixed...
judith hellerstein:Others in the NCUC also noticed it as well but did not know they had a place to complain to
Satish Babu:Yes, that will help
Carlton Samuels:Howdy all: Quick question, would the provider not have the evidence of the failures?
Evin Erdogdu:At-Large Budget Development Workspace: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_atlarge_At-2DLarge-2BFY18-2BBudget-2BDevelopment-2BWorkspace&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=HedNXfBayuWxdPer7COiCJBd39KxvJQIgCaiDYF2Tm8&m=AuVKF1H_8HKUsT82JqD5CLAP0olmOH6bTyaY521ZuMQ&s=CU2aguGtWSYkdw2XM9p_vk3nA36ivmiNz9t1iz6FyvI&e=
Carlton Samuels:Let me be blunt. If ICANN pay for a service then there should be a Service Level Agreement. If the service is substandard then there is no reason to meet with the provider other than to exercise the terms of the SLA.
Carlton Samuels:If there is no SLA then that is a failure of management. That is what must be fixed.
judith hellerstein:Yes Carlton, that is what Josh was saying
judith hellerstein:that is why Josh wanted to get people to file complaints with them so they can presentit to the provider and they can fix it
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:AC working terribly today
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:it was very slow to open
Carlton Samuels:@Juduth: I'm sorry. Might have missed it since I joined late. I'm simply going ack to my experience as a senior technoly service manager and provider.
judith hellerstein:However, it seems that message has not gotten to the other consittituencies as people i talked to in those constituencies do not know where to file these complaintes so perhas that needs to be broadcasted out to all consitiuencies again
Ariel Liang:Doc unsynced, so you can scroll on your own
Evin Erdogdu:Uploaded now!
judith hellerstein:@carlton, it was not this time, but much earlier
Carlton Samuels:And why can't this p[latform render a page consistent with the display characteristics? If it can't adapt then its time to dump it!
judith hellerstein:@mark, can you look into this. it seems every since we switched over the adobe our interaction with adobe has gotten worse instead of better
judith hellerstein:ICANN is paying a lot more for this service but we seem to be getting less for it
Carlton Samuels:@Judith: YOu just lurched into the truth! This is a management problem!!!
Carlton Samuels:Question for Staff: Can we see the SLA associated with this service?
judith hellerstein:@mark who is handling the Adobe issues that Josh had handled?
Alfredo Calderon:Not seeing what she is talking about.
judith hellerstein:it is because the page is not unsyched
Andrei Kolesnikov:sorry got to go :(
Evin Erdogdu:Thank you for participating Andrei!
Carlton Samuels:@OCL: While I sympathize with the statement, I have to say we are complicit and share the blame. We have given to majoring in minor administrivia matters as response to accusations of being without 'value'! to the community We drank the kool aid now spin a lot of wheels to demonstrate we deserve being 'funded' !
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Thanks Andrei for attending
judith hellerstein:HI Tobia, we are running a bit behind
Evin Erdogdu:Welcome Tobia
Evin Erdogdu:Welcome Lorenzo
Tobia Castaldi:Hi Judith... no problem
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:@Calrton: we are all guilty as charged. Automate all of this. Robotize it. Make sure the Robot does the work so we can all concentrate on work instead.
Lorenzo Miniero:Hi everybody
Satish Babu:yes
Alfredo Calderon:Yes
judith hellerstein:HI all we are running a little behind. We will be at the meet echo demo shortly
Amal Al-saqqaf:Does the channels connected to the WGs' mailing lists?
Mark Segall:To close the loop on @Carlton's request via SLA. I've noted for discussion with our Meetings Technical Services Team and will provide an update.
Lorenzo Miniero:waiting to find out how we can unmute :)
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:yes
Satish Babu:yes
Evin Erdogdu:Should be unmuted now, Lorenzo.
Evin Erdogdu:Great!
Corinna Ace:I need to drop off for another meeting. Thanks all
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:usea headset, perhaps?
Ariel Liang:thanks Corinna
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:yes we can
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Thanks Corinna
Evin Erdogdu:Thank you Corinna.
Alfredo Calderon:It does not seem to work with Safari in iOS in my iPhone.
judith hellerstein:alfredo it will not work on IOS on phone or tablet since currently apple does not support the web rtc standard
Alfredo Calderon:it uses WebRTC-enabled browsers.
Alessandro Amirante:WebRTC is not currently supported by Safari, and is not supported on the iOS version of Chrome and FireFox either!
judith hellerstein:We found that out Friday but they had said that hopefully apple will be changing this soon and start supporting it
Alessandro Amirante:Anyway, as Tobia is going to say in a while, we can implement a custom workaround for you which can allow you to join the audio part through phone and just watch to the shared screen also from iOS devices
Alessandro Amirante:Of course things are moving toward that direction, and we do expect Apple to join the WebRTC arena in the near future
Alfredo Calderon:Could work if one is at office or home, but if out of the office will not be able to see screen.
judith hellerstein:they can do a work around this and if a person shares their screen than you will shared screen in your browser
judith hellerstein:the audio will be thru for adigo
Lorenzo Miniero:it's Alessandro, actually :)
Lorenzo Miniero:I haven't spoken so far
judith hellerstein:Sorry Alex
Evin Erdogdu:Whoops! Sorry about that, Lorenzo!
Evin Erdogdu:Thank you Alessandro. :)
Lorenzo Miniero:no problem!
Ariel Liang:The meetecho room link is: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ventotene.conf.meetecho.com_q-2Dmeetecho_-3Fevent-3DICANN-26epin-3D00124578&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=HedNXfBayuWxdPer7COiCJBd39KxvJQIgCaiDYF2Tm8&m=AuVKF1H_8HKUsT82JqD5CLAP0olmOH6bTyaY521ZuMQ&s=3Y2pG3zXuHu4e83TgtIljgBrzWCk5gKSBsZJVnLyNO0&e=
Justine Chew:Can Alex tell us who else is using Meetecho apart from IETF?
judith hellerstein:ACM?
Lorenzo Miniero:yep
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:yes
Alfredo Calderon:Yes
Lorenzo Miniero:Tobia is already speaking and showing his video in the Meetecho room
Alessandro Amirante:Just be sure to be muted on Adobe, as otherwise you're going to generate a lot of echo! :)
Evin Erdogdu:Thanks Lorenzo
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Attention all: we are testing MeetEcho conferencing solution with adigo now redirected to the Meetecho solution
Evin Erdogdu:Thanks, Dev.
Carlton Samuels:Dropping off!
Carlton Samuels:Bya all
Evin Erdogdu:Thank you Carlton!
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Thanks Carlton
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Thanks so much to the interpreters
Mark Segall:All... It's my turn to drop off. Thank you for the Meetecho demo
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:They will be stopping now
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Thanks Mark
Ariel Liang:thanks Mark and Carlton
Evin Erdogdu:FYI all, our ES interpreters David and Claudia are still with us.
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Hi, David, Claudia - you can certainly stop
Vanda Scartezini:llooks interesting .... thanks to all Meetecho people.
judith hellerstein:Thanks for everyone for staying on
Alfredo Calderon:Thanks to all!
Vanda Scartezini:see you around thank you all
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond:thank you all
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Thanks everyone
Evin Erdogdu:Thank you everyone!
Dev Anand Teelucksingh:Take care all