Zoom chat: 2020-11-18 Consolidated Policy Working Group Call

15:36:40 From Yesim Nazlar : Welcome to At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group call taking place on Wednesday, 18 November 2020 at 13:00 UTC.
15:36:50 From Yesim Nazlar : Agenda: https://community.icann.org/x/zwINCQ
16:00:35 From Herb Waye Ombuds : Olivier I keep waiting for the killer with the knife to jump out….
16:00:36 From Evin Erdogdu : Hello all, welcome / hoş geldin :)
16:01:53 From Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond : LOL @Herb :-)
16:02:43 From Herb Waye Ombuds : Greetings from chilly Canada… hope everyone is healthy and safe.
16:03:15 From Yesim Nazlar : RTT Link: https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN
16:03:24 From Roberto : If the killer jumps out I will call the Ombudsman…
16:04:22 From Heidi Ullrich : Welcome, All.
16:05:35 From Chokri Ben Romdhane : Hi all happy to meet all during the day, not by night I mean as usual!
16:05:42 From Herb Waye Ombuds : @Roberto… give me a chance to practice my hostage negotiation skills
16:06:05 From Roberto : :-)
16:06:15 From Evin Erdogdu : In progress :)
16:06:58 From hadia Elminiawi : Thanks Justine
16:08:42 From Chokri Ben Romdhane : miss your exellent presentations @Justine
16:22:40 From Greg Shatan : The I in SPIRT stands for Implementation.
16:27:48 From hadia Elminiawi : +1 Greg yes indeed why not?
16:28:28 From Marita Moll : I could imagine that things that could come up could be related to community applications
16:28:44 From hadia Elminiawi : We have a lot of experts on the subsequent procedures and the new gTLDs
16:29:30 From Judith Hellerstein : sorry i have got to leave now as i have another call
16:30:19 From Carlos Raul Gutierrez : Fully support GREG´s comments on the potential exclusion of ALAC due to ¨professional¨barriers to entry
16:32:51 From Marita Moll : Yes, standing was important to us -- we should stick
16:32:56 From Marita Moll : to that
16:35:05 From Greg Shatan : +1 Alan
16:35:09 From Marita Moll : +1 Alan on both routes for standins
16:35:42 From christopher wilkinson : +1 @Alan.
16:35:52 From Jonathan Zuck : +1
16:36:39 From Sarah Kiden : +1
16:37:11 From Alan Greenberg : Funding us to object without giving us standing is a waste of ICANN money and tour time. Makes no sense
16:39:28 From Jonathan Zuck : Disappointing
16:45:07 From León Sánchez : Board’s fiduciary duties remain in place regardless of having an external third party “decide” on a controversy in this context
16:48:04 From Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond : GAC and ALAC need to work together on this. Same with sensitive strings.
16:49:54 From Nadira AL-ARAJ : +1 Greg
16:57:40 From Nadira AL-ARAJ : it makes sense
16:58:38 From Marita Moll : makes sense to me too --- if it is enforceable as Alan says
16:58:48 From Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond : +1 Alan -- anything in the contract has to be enforceable. Otherwise what's in the contract is fluff
17:06:10 From hadia Elminiawi : Yes this is what we thought
17:08:16 From Marita Moll : Yes, we want to preserve some oversight
17:09:22 From Roberto : The same batch of .xxx
17:09:30 From Herb Waye Ombuds : I have to run… stay safe everyone and be kind
17:11:35 From Marita Moll : Wow Justine, digging deep
17:12:35 From Marita Moll : From my reading it looks like a back door deal between Employ Media and icann.org
17:12:39 From Greg Shatan : Good article on Domain Incite about .jobs.
17:13:25 From Greg Shatan : Here the fox will now be guarding thee henhouse.
17:13:39 From Justine Chew : I think there are already 4 comments posted on .JOBS public comment wiki
17:13:51 From Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond : does the failure of "sponsored TLDs" point to a potential failure of Community TLDs? Or is this just one of those things….
17:14:28 From Greg Shatan : That said, the community of HR employment professionals is not the most compelling community.
17:14:36 From Roberto : Agree with @JZ
17:15:08 From Marita Moll : It is really the precedent here that needs to be taken into account
17:15:29 From Roberto : The sale of .org was going to be a game changer, for .job it will go by and large unnoticed
17:15:57 From Roberto : @Marita - agree. The princeple not the substance
17:16:06 From Roberto : Yes, .mobi as well
17:17:38 From Alan Greenberg : They cancelled that advis. comm.
17:17:47 From Yrjo Lansipuro : Nokia had somehow a hand in setting up .mobi at the time they were making handsets
17:18:44 From Justine Chew : Thank you @Greg
17:18:48 From Roberto : In case you did not hear me, indeed it is a sponsored TLD, I don’t remember though who was in the advisory board from At-Large
17:19:07 From Justine Chew : It was @Roberto, it no longer is.
17:19:38 From Roberto : I stand corrected, it is no longer
17:19:48 From Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond : https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/dotMOBI+Liaison+Reports
17:19:55 From Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond : Murray McKercher was DotMobi liaison
17:19:58 From Sivasubramanian Muthusamy : Sebastien wasn't audible enough
17:20:29 From christopher wilkinson : Leaving the call.l Thankyou
17:20:29 From Greg Shatan : Note that our comment is not an objection
17:20:48 From Greg Shatan : more a cautionary statement
17:20:56 From Marita Moll : We are registering our concern
17:21:20 From hadia Elminiawi : Thanks all - bye for today
17:22:08 From hadia Elminiawi : I shall stay for 5 minutes to follow Justine
17:25:48 From hadia Elminiawi : +1 Jonathan
17:26:03 From Alan Greenberg : @Jonathan: agreed.
17:26:27 From Sivasubramanian Muthusamy : Get the numbers from GAC and SSAC
17:28:00 From Jonathan Zuck : Fatigue
17:28:43 From Sivasubramanian Muthusamy : Complain to the Ombudsman
17:29:11 From Sivasubramanian Muthusamy : Or, write to the c
17:29:33 From Sivasubramanian Muthusamy : Or, write to the ICANN CEO.
17:29:41 From Greg Shatan : I think if this came up during the heart of the group’s work, it would have gotten a different reception.
17:31:08 From Greg Shatan : At this point, we would essentially be rechartering and extending the WG to deal with DNA Abuse
17:31:11 From Amrita : Thanks Justine for all the updates and perspectives
17:31:15 From Marita Moll : Thanks Justine. Composition of that committee is really important
17:32:13 From Yesim Nazlar : 17:00 UTC or 20:30 UTC
17:32:30 From Carlos Raul Gutierrez : as early as possible
17:32:32 From Justine Chew : 17:00 UTC would suit me :)
17:32:38 From Carlos Raul Gutierrez : preference for the earlier one
17:32:56 From Roberto : Just note that Wed 25 at 14:00 UTC there is the IGF
17:32:56 From Greg Shatan : I will be out on Wednesday. Better for earlier for those doing Thanksgiving
17:32:57 From Amrita : Thanks All
17:32:58 From Jonathan Zuck : as late as possible
17:33:06 From Roberto : Open Mike IGF
17:33:22 From Marita Moll : Thanks everyone and bye
17:33:25 From avri doria : bye. interesting discussion. thanks.
17:33:53 From Roberto : Bye