Zoom chat: 2020-10-07 Consolidated Policy Working Group Call

16:17:21 From Jonathan Zuck : Yes. Is this an example of the MSM failing?
16:19:18 From Marita Moll : @JZ -- worth thinking about
16:20:33 From Nadira AL-ARAJ : when there is cross community group there must be a standard MSM consensus in this case
16:21:05 From Marita Moll : Helpful Alan -- this is the first time a pdp is organized as groups and we now have a problem defining whose version of consensus rules. Would that be correct
16:23:15 From Jonathan Zuck : The “weighting” in this case might have been to the GAC as much as anything else
16:23:46 From Marita Moll : We could bring it up as an example of issues that need to be resolved under MSM -- but have to be very careful about how we phrase it
16:24:02 From Yrjo Lansipuro : What Alan brought up would be a relevant topic for discussions on the multistakeholde model
16:24:03 From Jonathan Zuck : Indeed
16:24:49 From Nadira AL-ARAJ : , consensus issue in CCWGs must be raised to the board to be addressed
16:30:21 From Alan Greenberg : Our role is to state our position!
16:30:39 From Alan Greenberg : aND POINT OUT THAT THE LEGAL ADVICE SAID IT WAS OK.
16:31:22 From Jonathan Zuck : Ok. Thanks!
16:31:25 From Lutz Donnerhacke : *My* position is, that the thick whois is the wrong way
16:31:30 From Nadira AL-ARAJ : thanks Olivier
16:32:37 From Evin Erdogdu : See: Google Doc for comment: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sRg9TfE6WOD-cFdivm5a4R0p8UUr_vcV8zds17wkFAk/edit?usp=sharing
16:33:40 From Evin Erdogdu : See draft ALAC statement by Bill Jouris: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/2020-10-07+Consolidated+Policy+Working+Group+Call?preview=/147851883/150175988/At%20Large%20SLD%20Comment.pdf
16:35:35 From Evin Erdogdu : We could launch ALAC vote on Monday for submission Thursday
16:36:01 From Evin Erdogdu : Thank you Bill
16:36:05 From Evin Erdogdu : We will be in touch :)
16:39:45 From AK Oloyede : i can take a look
16:41:29 From Evin Erdogdu : Thanks Abdulkarim
16:43:52 From Evin Erdogdu : See: Google Doc for comment: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sRg9TfE6WOD-cFdivm5a4R0p8UUr_vcV8zds17wkFAk/edit?usp=sharing
16:46:26 From laurin : SSR2 has a long abuse section (that I am currently reading) so there is more coming there.
16:48:26 From Judith Hellerstein : there was a recent report from Europol about the increase in ransom ware
16:48:35 From Judith Hellerstein : idea is not to click on anything
16:49:02 From laurin : we expect to be done with SSR2 around this icann, depending on final edits, translation, etc.
16:49:59 From Alfredo Calderon : Microsoft Defense Report — https://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2020/09/29/microsoft-digital-defense-report-cyber-threats/
16:50:36 From John McCormac - author of Domnomics : The problem is that the enablers for the bad actors may (inadvertently) be at registry level.
16:51:36 From laurin : happy to.
16:51:47 From laurin : audio cut out on host unmute.
16:51:50 From Bill Jouris : If the Contracted Parties collectively feel targeted, perhaps they should consider making recommendations on how to police the bad actors among their number.
16:52:09 From Hadia’s iPhone : thanks Alfredo
16:53:11 From laurin : audio seems to be back
16:53:16 From laurin : can try now.
16:53:45 From Chokri ben romdhane : thank you all I have to move to another meeting
16:53:51 From Judith Hellerstein : https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/covid-19-sparks-upward-trend-in-cybercrime?fbclid=IwAR2iFsYbjse7Bi95bpm0kpCAuVyegosJj967gzvflCRGCZ-fsgZjo0voUIU
16:53:53 From Ephraim Percy Kenyanito : I’m here and will be running the session together with Joanna
16:54:31 From Hadia’s iPhone : bye Chokri, nice seeing you on the call
16:54:53 From Hadia’s iPhone : thanks Judith for the link
16:54:55 From Alfredo Calderon : Thank you @Judith.
16:55:26 From laurin : audio back, if SSR2 still needed.
16:56:05 From Judith Hellerstein : i have to leave at the top of the hour
16:56:47 From Betty Fausta : bye Judith
16:58:56 From Yrjo Lansipuro : Another relevant Europe report published a few days ago https://www.europol.europa.eu/activities-services/main-reports/internet-organised-crime-threat-assessment-iocta-2020
17:01:49 From laurin : have to run! sorry all!
17:02:27 From Hadia’s iPhone : thanks Yrjo
17:02:37 From Evin Erdogdu : Thanks Laurin
17:02:40 From John McCormac - author of Domnomics : Has discounting been considered with DNS abuse?
17:03:41 From Maureen Hilyard : Dont forget to complete the survey that Org will be sending out soon about virtual and f2f meetings
17:05:12 From Alfredo Calderon : I was told that YouTube streaming sessions are mentioned in the schedule.
17:07:24 From Maureen Hilyard : include any comments about you tube can also be included into the survey which is going out directly to Org, - but also ask for the additional tools that we are pushing
17:08:02 From Alfredo Calderon : Today I have a closed session with Fellows and Breakout Rooms is a key component of the 2-hour session.
17:08:23 From Maureen Hilyard : Excellent Alfredo
17:10:24 From Maureen Hilyard : Yes please mention the need for interpretation for all At-Large sessions
17:10:34 From Maureen Hilyard : in the survey as well
17:11:19 From Sarah Kiden : Noted, thanks!
17:11:34 From Maureen Hilyard : Great question Sarah esp when metrics is an issue for us
17:15:30 From Bill Jouris : What would we have done for German if we had been physically in Hamburg?
17:17:27 From Jonathan Zuck : Bill, I guess we generally supplement language services with local people.
17:18:10 From Bill Jouris : Jonathan, surely we could do the same this time.
17:18:50 From Jonathan Zuck : @Bill, I agree. It’s not a particularly good answer to the question.
17:18:50 From Marita Moll : I think this is an oversight -- CW is right -- Germans participants should be accommodated
17:19:54 From Maureen Hilyard : I dont remember that ICANN even considered Malaysian as an option for a local language when the meeting was in Kuala Lumpur
17:20:25 From Marita Moll : I intend to bring it up in the survey. This was an oversight in Malaysia as well.
17:21:01 From Marita Moll : Probably can't fix it this time -- but should be fixed
17:21:04 From Alfredo Calderon : On the YouTube streaming sessions, it is not visually mentioned in the schedule, unless you dig into the details of each session to find out!
17:22:16 From Evin Erdogdu : The ICANN69 Policy Outlook Report (formerly known as the Pre-ICANN69 Policy Report) is now available: http://go.icann.org/outlook69
17:22:18 From Lutz Donnerhacke : Usually it's expected, that there is no German on international Meetings in Germany.
17:23:05 From Betty Fausta : hi have to jump to another meeting. have a nice day
17:24:16 From Bill Jouris : @Lutz, just because others do it badly doesn't mean that ICANN has to do so as well
17:24:44 From Lutz Donnerhacke : @Bill, it's just a note, that there is no suprise
17:24:52 From Hadia’s iPhone : I can hear you too
17:24:57 From Hadia’s iPhone : yes
17:25:16 From Evin Erdogdu : Sorry, I was frozen :)
17:25:54 From Sarah Kiden : Thank you everyone!
17:25:54 From Hadia’s iPhone : thank you all
17:25:57 From Hadia’s iPhone : bye
17:26:00 From Alfredo Calderon : Stay well and safe!
17:26:01 From Marita Moll : Bye all
17:26:03 From John McCormac - author of Domnomics : later all