Zoom chat: 2020-02-19 Consolidated Policy Working Group Call

15:34:28 From Yesim Nazlar : Welcome to At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group Call taking place on Wednesday, 19 February 2020 at 13:00 UTC.
15:34:40 From Yesim Nazlar : Agenda: https://community.icann.org/x/6BeJBw
15:48:35 From Evin Erdoğdu : Hello all, welcome.
15:53:52 From Filina Natalia : hi all!
15:54:03 From Priyatosh Jana : hi everyone
15:54:23 From Obed Sindy : Hi everyone !
15:54:42 From Caleb Ogundele : Hello Everyone
15:54:46 From Caleb Ogundele : Caleb for the record
15:59:10 From Joanna Kulesza : Hi Caleb :)
16:00:15 From Caleb Ogundele : Hello Joanna… Nice to e-meet you again after our last meeting.
16:01:47 From Heidi Ullrich : Welcome, All.
16:02:00 From Evin Erdoğdu : Just uploaded, Hadia
16:02:14 From León Sánchez : hello everyone
16:02:17 From Adrian Schmidt : good morning from Lacombe, AB
16:02:24 From Kristina Hakobyan : hello, everyone
16:03:17 From davekissoondoyal : Hello all
16:03:31 From Alfredo Calderon : Saludos a todos! / Hello to all!
16:03:35 From Judith Hellerstein : good evening from Papua New Guinea
16:03:43 From Amrita Choudhury : Hi All
16:04:35 From sergio salinas porto LACRALO : hi everyone!
16:04:48 From Vanda's iPhone 5 : hi all I am driving but lustrning
16:04:51 From sergio salinas porto LACRALO : I fell off the call, please call me at + 54 9 223 5 215819
16:04:55 From Vanda's iPhone 5 : listening
16:06:19 From sergio salinas porto LACRALO : I am already inside! Thank you
16:08:49 From Anne-Marie Joly-Bachollet : Could you call me again
16:09:18 From Yesim Nazlar : @Anne-Marie - sure, dialing
16:10:05 From Anne-Marie Joly-Bachollet : Thank you
16:10:05 From herb.waye : sorry I’m late. hello all…
16:12:21 From Yesim Nazlar : welcome Herb!
16:16:13 From Ines Hfaiedh : Hi everyone
16:16:48 From Ines Hfaiedh : sorry for joigning late
16:23:17 From humbertocarrasco : hello everybody
16:24:05 From humbertocarrasco : Apologies for being late
16:25:35 From Eduardo Diaz - NARALO : Maybe a webinar to understand this process is needed
16:25:36 From sergio salinas porto LACRALO : hola Humberto!
16:27:10 From humbertocarrasco : Hola Sergio!!
16:27:41 From humbertocarrasco : Good idea Eduardo!!!
16:27:48 From Joanna Kulesza : Hola both:) +1 Ed
16:27:54 From Alfredo Calderon : @Eduardo, will consider this under the Capacity Building WG Webinars Team.
16:28:15 From Vanda's iPhone 5 : agree with you Hadia
16:28:16 From Nadira Al Araj : makes sense about your comments @Hadia
16:29:31 From Nadira Al Araj : It is :30
16:29:55 From Yeseul : Yes I also agree with the idea of a separate webinar for the process.
16:31:24 From Justine Chew : @Alan, @Hadia, do you know if the EPDP will be organising a webinar on this Report that's out for public comment?
16:31:26 From Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond : having a 24/7 hotline for these matters is not expensive. They at least one tech person on call during week-ends so I do not understand why they do not have an emergency contact for these disclosure requests that are urgent
16:35:08 From Eduardo Diaz - NARALO : We are way late in the agenda
16:37:01 From Vanda's iPhone 5 : great work Hadia
16:37:12 From Alfredo Calderon : Interpreters must be having some issues with interpretation.
16:38:46 From Vanda's iPhone 5 : autorization for automation I am not sure if will be compliance for GDPR
16:38:56 From Joanna Kulesza : What is the AtLarge position here?
16:39:06 From Joanna Kulesza : Right - happy to save this for the webinar:)
16:39:43 From Justine Chew : Good point @Alan. @Hadia, perhaps for next week we could have some insight into what we should be particularly concerned over, for purposes of submitting a public comment?
16:39:43 From Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond : I think we're going to indeed need Webinar
16:40:05 From laurin : after reading the report, I saw little on accrediting non-state actors. Hadia and
16:40:18 From laurin : Alan, what’s the direction there?
16:41:04 From Vanda's iPhone 5 : thanks Hadia
16:43:26 From Alfredo Calderon : @Joanna, probably based on the timeframe fir comment submission schedule a 90 minute webinar with a focus on areas where At-Large should consider commenting through the CPWG ...
16:43:27 From Alan Greenberg : @Laurin, ICANN or a contractor will accredit, likely using subcontractors who are specialists in the area (for instance WIPO for IP lawyers, etc). Who accredits cybersecurity workers is an open (and critical) question.
16:43:50 From Hadia Elminiawi : @Laurin any individual or organization can be accredited the requirements for individuals to be accredited is not detailed in the report
16:44:01 From Alan Greenberg : @Joanna, if we cannot automate requests for cyber security and a large % of "typical" IP requests, then this will be a failure.
16:45:12 From laurin : many thanks Hadia and Alan!
16:45:19 From Joanna Kulesza : +1, thanks Alan
16:45:59 From Evin Erdoğdu : Noted Justine
16:47:42 From Jonathan Zuck : Makes sense
16:47:56 From Marita Moll : I agree with Justine's request for a single issue call
16:47:59 From davekissoondoyal : +1
16:48:13 From sylvia herlein : +1
16:50:22 From Vanda's iPhone 5 : thanks Justine
16:50:42 From Evin Erdoğdu : Thank you Justine (and small team)!
16:50:44 From Hadia Elminiawi : Thanks Justine
16:50:51 From Yrjo Lansipuro : +1
16:50:57 From sylvia herlein : tks Justine. great work
16:51:03 From Marita Moll : Thanks Alan -- I am also a member and how much work Justine has been going.
16:52:11 From Marita Moll : I suggest that the geonames topic to be on the agenda of the single issue call
16:52:44 From Daniel K. Nanghaka : I am in agreement with Marita - its pretty wide
16:52:45 From Jonathan Zuck : Of course, interestingly, we don’t have much of a consensus position on geo names
16:53:28 From Alfredo Calderon : @Joanna, it seems we have great opportunity to add to the list of Webinars topics that might interest newcomers, with some fundamental background, and those already involved and interested in contributing to the comments.
16:54:51 From Justine Chew : @OCL, I forgot to report that the preliminary scorecards for UA and IDNs have been shared with the IDN WG via its maillist. So that's one of my (undocumented) AI from last week completed.
16:55:41 From Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond : Many thanks @Justine - perhaps next week could you summarise any results from the discussions in the IDN WG, if any?
16:55:44 From Filina Natalia : +1 @Alfredo
16:56:16 From Justine Chew : @OCL, none received as yet.
16:57:13 From Yeseul Kim : @Justine maybe we can also share other works that you’ve initiated (e.g. post-ATLAS III volunteer works, etc) with the others if time permits? Thank you Justine, anyway.
16:58:24 From davekissoondoyal : Sorry I need to disconnect.. due to my professional commitments
16:58:33 From davekissoondoyal : bye
17:00:53 From Yeseul Kim : I think this will be one of the most important tasks for ICANN for the coming months, to create this central abuse report portal.
17:01:00 From Evin Erdoğdu : Thank you very much, Laurin, for this informative SSR2 presentation
17:02:59 From Jonathan Zuck : Is there a recorded presentation of these slides someplace?
17:03:02 From Alfredo Calderon : @Joanna and @Hadia lets add some of these topics to the Webinar topic list. At this point we should start some for schedule for future Webinars: be it monthly, or every 3 weeks, etc. It seems we could combine some CPWG single purpose calls: Setting could be 90 minutes: 60 minutes presentation + 30 minutes Q&A.
17:05:00 From Daniel K. Nanghaka : Thank you @Alfredo for sharing this
17:05:17 From Daniel K. Nanghaka : This can be an action point for Joanna and Hadia
17:05:54 From Joanna Kulesza : +1 Alfredo
17:06:40 From Jonathan Zuck : We don’t need to respond to ALL of it. We can focus on the end user issues
17:06:54 From Jonathan Zuck : Definitely
17:07:02 From Hadia Elminiawi : @Alfredo yes indeed that is what we should do
17:07:39 From Nadira Al Araj : +1 JZ but it was good to have the overall concepts
17:07:50 From Vanda's iPhone 5 : quite good idea to have such webinar- our law here is quite similar to GDPR with 3 relevant differences and will also be quite informative for people around here
17:07:55 From Betty Fausta : @Alfredo monthly. agenda can be heavy with our responsibilities
17:08:14 From Justine Chew : @Laurin, thanks!
17:08:39 From Alfredo Calderon : +1 @Jonathan, just areas that impact end-users. As just mentioned by Lauren its focused should be on awareness.
17:08:43 From Yeseul Kim : I would also like to get the set of slides if it has not yet been shared or uploaded anywhere. Thank you Laurin anyway.
17:08:44 From Vanda's iPhone 5 : thank you Laurin
17:09:07 From laurin : slides on agenda page!
17:09:17 From Yeseul Kim : Thanks Laurin!
17:09:59 From Glenn McKnight, Foundation for Building Sustainable Communities : FYI the issue of DNS Abuse will be highlighted at the ICANN ATLARGE Booth this year. Heidi is making Buttons for the booth volunteers. I am working on key talking points document
17:10:08 From Glenn McKnight, Foundation for Building Sustainable Communities : Includes resource links
17:10:31 From Evin Erdoğdu : Thanks @Glenn, there will be ALAC / At-Large ICANN67 Talking Points as well
17:10:38 From Evin Erdoğdu : DNS Abuse will be a topic in them
17:11:22 From Jonathan Zuck : Yes, @Glen an @Evin, it will also a be a big presentation on the first day. Let’s make sure we coordinate so we don’t duplicate efforts
17:11:23 From Alan Greenberg : I wasn't really asking a question...
17:11:25 From Daniel K. Nanghaka : Thank you Glenn and also we shall be having a talk on DNS Abuse
17:11:54 From Evin Erdoğdu : Noted @Jonathan
17:13:38 From Jonathan Zuck : That’s the idea
17:17:13 From Justine Chew : Do we have consensus to respond to the SSR2 report? Can we have volunteer penholders?0
17:17:34 From Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond : we need to respond, IMHO
17:17:46 From Evin Erdoğdu : Noted Jonathan
17:18:48 From Evin Erdoğdu : Noted Olivier
17:19:13 From Jonathan Zuck : I’m happy to be on this response team, especially on the DNS Abuse section
17:19:54 From Glenn McKnight, Foundation for Building Sustainable Communities : Need feedback on the promotional DNS Abuse mailcard to drive people to the booth.
17:20:19 From Glenn McKnight, Foundation for Building Sustainable Communities : https://www.canva.com/design/DADznoVehqw/share/preview?token=WpnePomACBLbR33n4Y2xXA&role=EDITOR&utm_content=DADznoVehqw&utm_campaign=designshare&utm_medium=link&utm_source=sharebutton
17:20:21 From Hadia Elminiawi : I could also be on the response team
17:20:36 From Glenn McKnight, Foundation for Building Sustainable Communities : See link and email me your comments to change the card
17:21:15 From Yeseul Kim : Can also be in the team. And thank you Glenn.
17:21:32 From Hadia Elminiawi : @Glenn ok
17:24:04 From Marita Moll : To comment on MSM google doc. new pretty well completed please see:
17:24:08 From Marita Moll : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BVJLVRlQYP6tpJ0-TXLpSeTu11vzbNZCYuWFc05MiKM/edit
17:24:29 From Evin Erdoğdu : See Google Doc for comment - ALAC Statement on the ICANN Public Comment: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cf95Lk8trIqIC_QFFNV1zMwDkJ4rRP21mUmXhBfRfMQ/edit?usp=sharing
17:24:33 From Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond : thanks @Marita
17:25:15 From Daniel K. Nanghaka : Thank you Marita
17:25:17 From Evin Erdoğdu : (Related to SSR2): here is link to last week’s webinar /resources - https://community.icann.org/display/SSR/Webinar%3A+SSR2+Draft+Report will also circulate on mailing list
17:26:46 From Glenn McKnight, Foundation for Building Sustainable Communities : link on the page https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/ssr2-review-24jan20-en.pdf
17:26:50 From Glenn McKnight, Foundation for Building Sustainable Communities : no access
17:28:25 From Evin Erdoğdu : Better link: https://community.icann.org/x/ZhCJBw
17:28:42 From Evin Erdoğdu : Thank you Ricardo
17:29:25 From Jonathan Zuck : Makes sense Marita
17:29:41 From Justine Chew : Thanks, @Ricardo and @Marita.
17:32:26 From Kristina Hakobyan : sorry, I have to go, thanks to everyone, bye
17:34:36 From Evin Erdoğdu : Noted thanks all
17:36:04 From Justine Chew : For NCAP Study 1, I suggest CPWG Leadership reach out to Greg Shatan to do the reviewing and/or penholding. I can assist since both Greg and I are involved in NCAP DG.
17:36:17 From Glenn McKnight, Foundation for Building Sustainable Communities : Johnathan I can help Laurin with some points
17:36:28 From Glenn McKnight, Foundation for Building Sustainable Communities : I too have been on the selection committee for NexTgen
17:36:28 From Joanna Kulesza : Happy to join the guys here
17:36:59 From Hadia Elminiawi : ok
17:37:08 From Glenn McKnight, Foundation for Building Sustainable Communities : @Evin did you see that Joanna and me are able to comment
17:37:08 From laurin : sorry all, I thought this was a quick one. seems it isn’t quite as quick. ;)
17:37:27 From Glenn McKnight, Foundation for Building Sustainable Communities : @Laurin can we do a quick Skype call
17:37:33 From Evin Erdoğdu : Will do
17:37:39 From Glenn McKnight, Foundation for Building Sustainable Communities : I have reviewed the document and the survey
17:37:45 From laurin : Glenn, sure!
17:38:04 From Evin Erdoğdu : Thank you all
17:38:15 From Glenn McKnight, Foundation for Building Sustainable Communities : @Laurin I will send you an email
17:38:32 From laurin : glenn, add joana!
17:38:53 From laurin : *joanna
17:39:36 From Glenn McKnight, Foundation for Building Sustainable Communities : Laurin and Joanna I will create a Google doc and share it
17:40:15 From Justine Chew : PSWG = Public Safety Working Group
17:40:17 From Joanna Kulesza : Perfect, thanks Glenn
17:40:25 From Evin Erdoğdu : @Glenn I can create a doc for you in the At-Large team drive
17:40:47 From Joanna Kulesza : Thanks Evin
17:41:08 From Evin Erdoğdu : Sure :)
17:41:14 From Glenn McKnight, Foundation for Building Sustainable Communities : @laurin and @Joanna @Alfredo I created a google doc to share on comments
17:41:39 From Yeseul Kim : Would like to join the meeting at Cancun but decided not to attend the meeting due to the virus….. I think strengthening talks with GAC on DNS Abuse will be quite important.
17:42:03 From laurin : I think dns abuse would be a good one as we already have some stuff going on!
17:42:13 From Justine Chew : @Yrjo, perhaps we could take this offline, via email, especially with those who have indicated interest in attending that PSWG meeting?
17:42:25 From Yeseul Kim : +1 Justine
17:42:34 From Justine Chew : But yes, +1 to DNS Abuse
17:42:40 From Joanna Kulesza : +1
17:42:44 From laurin : happy to help with that one, I will be there due to SSR2
17:42:57 From laurin : there = icann67
17:43:19 From Jonathan Zuck : IGF expression is “cross cutting”
17:43:19 From Hadia Elminiawi : +1 DNS abuse
17:43:42 From Vanda's iPhone 5 : thank you Yrjö include my name
17:44:17 From Yrjo Lansipuro : Yes Vanda
17:44:54 From sylvia herlein : sorry, but a I have to go now. Tks all!
17:45:02 From Justine Chew : @Alan, @Hadia, I see the EPDP II Webinar item on the agenda - so this answered my question.
17:45:18 From Jonathan Zuck : Hopefully not at 5am!
17:45:20 From Hadia Elminiawi : Ok Justine
17:45:32 From Jonathan Zuck : Yay!
17:45:38 From Joanna Kulesza : thanks all
17:45:43 From Amrita : thanks all
17:45:46 From Yeseul Kim : Thank you Olivier, Evin and all.
17:45:48 From hanan khatib : thank you all
17:45:53 From Priyatosh Jana : THANK YOU ALL
17:45:57 From Gordon Chillcott : THanks and bye for now
17:45:58 From Vanda's iPhone 5 : thanks to all
17:46:01 From Hadia Elminiawi : Thank you all
17:46:02 From Nadira Al Araj : Thank you all
17:46:08 From Filina Natalia : thank you all!
17:46:11 From herb.waye : have a great day all
17:46:21 From sergio salinas porto LACRALO : byeeeeeeeee tahnk you all!!!!!
17:46:23 From Alfredo Calderon : Thank you all. Great discussion!
17:46:26 From Marita Moll : thanks all. bye
17:46:26 From Anne-Marie Joly-Bachollet : Thank you
17:46:33 From Ricardo Holmquist : Thanks, bye
17:46:33 From Evin Erdoğdu : Thank you all!
17:46:37 From Priyatosh Jana : good bye
17:46:43 From avri doria : bye