Zoom chat: 2019-08-28 Consolidated Policy Working Group Call

15:36:29 From Yesim Nazlar : Welcome to the At-Large Consolidated Policy Working group (CPWG) Call taking place on Wednesday, 28 August 2019 at 13:00 UTC.
15:36:43 From Yesim Nazlar : Agenda: https://community.icann.org/x/Ro3kBg
15:45:54 From Evin Erdoğdu : :) :)
15:45:57 From Evin Erdoğdu : Hello all, welcome.
15:50:05 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Yesim I will let you (and Peggy) if i want to switch this meeting into the phine bridge audio later on as my other call starts
15:50:34 From Yesim Nazlar : well noted Cheryl
15:51:07 From Yesim Nazlar : https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN [streamtext.net]
15:56:52 From Yesim Nazlar : RTT Link: https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN [streamtext.net]
15:57:39 From Jonathan Zuck : Hello everyone. Just a reminder, if you take Zoom out of full screen mode, you can dock the participants and chat windows.
15:58:54 From Roberto : Thanks Jonathan - good to learn new things!
16:03:18 From Glenn McKnight : testing sound, no sound
16:03:36 From JUDITH' hellerstein : very clear
16:03:40 From Evin Erdoğdu : Happy belated bday, Jonathan!
16:04:22 From Justine Chew : Just to note that I will have to leave this call early to prep for WT5 call.
16:05:10 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Yes at the top of the hour several of us will join the SubPro WT5 call
16:06:20 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : But all Individuals are *also* welcome to fill out theri own ATRT3 Survey as well
16:06:32 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : different survey links
16:10:06 From John Laprise : Just arrived...sorry for my tardiness
16:11:32 From Justine Chew : Are we surprised?
16:17:02 From Hadia : Hello all
16:18:09 From Hadia : sorry I had some problems logging on
16:19:35 From Marita Moll : @Justine - for the small group, you can count me in
16:21:10 From Holly Raiche : The update on IDNs was great - and very detailed - well done
16:21:57 From Justine Chew : @Marita, noted.
16:22:15 From Greg Shatan : Just peeking in between phone calls....
16:23:26 From Hadia : @Justine what is the deadline for the IDNs feedback/
16:23:36 From Justine Chew : @Jonathan, thanks!
16:23:52 From Holly Raiche : Thanks Hadia - agree- when is the deadline for IDN feedback
16:25:34 From Hadia : By the way the IDN pdf is great
16:25:46 From Greg Shatan : SubPro Thursday is 20:00 UTC
16:25:55 From Hadia : ok thanks - tomorrow
16:26:15 From Maria Korniiets : Hello everyone! Sorry for being late
16:27:22 From herb.waye : Hi everyone, I must drop out. Have a great day all.
16:27:48 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Thanks Herb
16:29:26 From Roberto : The paper mentioned by Justine: https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/111390697/01.%20SubPro%20IDNs%20as%20at%2026.08.2019%20for%20CPWG.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1566791519000&api=v2
16:30:56 From Justine Chew : Outside of EPDP and SubPro?
16:31:29 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : They seem the obvious ones
16:31:37 From Justine Chew : Geonames is part of SubPro
16:31:50 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Geo beong a sub set of SubPro of course JZ
16:36:47 From Holly Raiche : I am not convinced that agreeing with the GAC is a bad thing - unless, of course, we agree on a large number of issues
16:37:03 From Justine Chew : Even inside GAC there is no consensus on geonames!
16:37:41 From Holly Raiche : As well, our perspective is that of the end usser
16:39:55 From Jonathan Zuck : agree completely
16:39:59 From Justine Chew : We get accused of many roles, pick one out of the hat on any given day.
16:40:04 From Justine Chew : So what?
16:40:10 From Holly Raiche : @ Alan - +1
16:41:02 From Marita Moll : I will also be leaving for subpro
16:42:04 From Jonathan Zuck : global public interest?
16:43:57 From Harold Arcos : my apologies for late connection, some issues with my isp.
16:45:12 From Yrjo Lansipuro : The GAC term is Focus group on SubPro
16:45:26 From Roberto : Looking at what is right now happening in Amazonas, my wild guess would be that it is not a given fact that individual users interest coincide with GAC on geo names
16:48:51 From Jonathan Zuck : and BC and IPC and SSAC
16:48:53 From Justine Chew : (1) EPDP (2) Subsequent Procedures (selected areas) (3) Future of multistakeholderism
16:49:31 From Justine Chew : We have also been aligned with IPC, BC, SSAC in certain area.
16:49:51 From Marita Moll : @Alan -- that's fine -- we just need to be able to say we tried
16:50:01 From Jonathan Zuck : that's the trouble with ideology frankly
16:50:46 From Marita Moll : @Jonathan -- yup and its here to say
16:50:53 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Thanks you for that Yrio
16:51:13 From Marita Moll : I meant here to stay
16:51:20 From Justine Chew : Thank you Yrjo
16:51:36 From Holly Raiche : Agree with the suggestion
16:51:43 From Hadia : Thank you Yrjo
16:52:15 From Marita Moll : Thanks to Yrjo -- we really need to keep exploring cooperation this way
16:52:18 From Evin Erdoğdu : Please provide your feedback on the CPWG Charter and "Ideal" Process by commenting on the Google Doc here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/13EjNxqfOvXGToCWLZi9-crsUSKvqnfdW57JF9drhPO4/edit?usp=sharing
16:53:43 From Holly Raiche : I largely agree with the document
16:54:51 From Hadia : Thank you Jonathan
16:55:16 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : L0L
16:55:38 From avri doria : nice picture
16:58:15 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Oh indeed!!!
17:00:20 From Justine Chew : The "Our Process?" slide has image which refers to "Develop Advice" and "Ratify Advice"
17:00:51 From Justine Chew : +1 JZ
17:01:07 From Justine Chew : Dropping off now.
17:02:11 From Harold Arcos : I would like to suggest that we have a mental image of the User as empowered people, not a victim. Not pulled by other members of our ecosystem. In many cases we are victims but within ICANN ecosystem we are subjects empowered with voice, opinion, vote wherever we participated.
17:02:11 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Thx JZ
17:02:35 From Alan Greenberg : Need to go..
17:02:47 From Jonathan Zuck : thanks Harold. I'll give that some thought
17:03:11 From Marita Moll : I will be happy to continue working on the MS issue
17:03:16 From Evin Erdoğdu : Thanks @Marita noted
17:04:06 From Holly Raiche : I also put my hand up
17:04:11 From Evin Erdoğdu : Thank you @Holly noted
17:04:37 From Jonathan Zuck : oh sorry Holly. thought it was an prior hand raising
17:05:42 From Holly Raiche : @ JZ - not a problem - I thought putting my hand up at that point would not be understood as voluntering
17:05:52 From Marita Moll : Sorry, leaving now for CPWG
17:06:56 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : WT%
17:08:33 From Holly Raiche : His sound is not good
17:09:55 From Abdulkarim Oloyede : Hi, I would like to join Morita on Steps to improve the effectiveness of ICANN's MSM
17:11:02 From Abdulkarim Oloyede : Marita, I mean.
17:14:10 From Jonathan Zuck : how about rebuttal comments? ha ha! Not!
17:14:52 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Note OCL we will pay attention to that
17:15:00 From Jonathan Zuck : EXACTLY! How about the rule that the comment period should, in fact, be over before decisions are made?
17:18:29 From Holly Raiche : @JZ +1
17:18:39 From Holly Raiche : Fine by me
17:18:43 From JUDITH' hellerstein : works for me
17:18:58 From Amrita Choudhury : Thanks a lot
17:20:02 From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : bye for now...
17:20:03 From Hadia : thank you all bye
17:20:04 From Gordon Chillcott : Thanks and bye for now.
17:20:17 From Harold Arcos : thanks all,,,thanks interpreters
17:20:21 From Harold Arcos : bye bye
17:20:25 From Kristina Hakobyan : bye, thanks