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ALAC Statement on Interim Report of Geographic Regions WG
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Interim Report of Geographic Regions Review Working Group
Interim Report of Geographic Regions Review Working Group:
- العربية [PDF, 325 KB]
- English [PDF, 356 KB]
- Français [PDF, 281 KB]
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The Interim Report document of the Working Group builds on the foundation of its Initial Report and tries to assess whether ICANN's Geographic Regions (as currently defined, or at all) meet the requirements of the relevant stakeholders.
The document addresses three specific areas:
- a review of the underlying history and objectives of ICANN's Geographic Regions Framework;
- it raises a number of fundamental questions for further consideration; and
- it expands on a number of specific matters identified in the Initial Report
The deadline for RALO input to the ALAC Statement is 25 January 2011. The ALAC will draft and adopt a statement based on the RALO input between 25 January and the end of the public consultation period on 30 January 2011 (see Announcement of Public Consultation on Interim Report ).
Related background material:
Geographic Regions Review Workshop Cartagena:
Slideshow: PDF - English
Discussion Document: PDF - English
Audio File: English
Presentation by Cheryl Langdon-Orr, member of the Geographic Regions Review Working Group:
Slideshow: PDF - English
IMPORTANT NOTE: All RALO's and ALSes are reminded that their comments are requested either directly to the Call for Public Comments ending and/or are to be included in the ALAC Statement. Their points should be directed to the specific matters raised in and comments ON the following document text:
Geographic Regions Review Working Group Interim Report
AFRALO |
AFRALO Statement on ICANN Geographic Regions |
APRALO |
APRALO is submitting the following statements on three separate issues. |
EURALO |
EURALO input to the on-going ICANN consultation process on |
LACRALO |
Regional Position |
NARALO |
NARALO finds that the current situation in this region is satisfactory but encourages the work of other At-Large regions in which the current system may be seen to require change. |
ALAC Draft Statement |
ALAC would we would like to appreciate the excellent work done by the Geographic Regions Review Working Group, the interim report covered the legacy background information and raised important questions related to the current ICANN region structure. |
6 Comments
Anonymous
Hi, everyone. I am Siranush Vardanyan from Armenia, three time ICANN fellow. This is a very interesting topic related to my own case. Within the framework of ICANN Geo. regions Republic of Armenia is in Asia Pacific. Within the framework of many other structures Armenia is within Europe, just as an example given from the PPt (Geographic Regions Review Workshop Cartagena, posted here), according to "International Norms, Armenia for within UN structure is considered as "Europe and Commonwealth of Independent States, ITU council uses Armenia within "Eastern Europe and Northern Asia", ITU (BDT) uses Armenia within "The Commonwealth of Independent States". This brings a lot of confusion for me as a representative of Armenia. Currently there are discussions on this topic within ALAC community, and I volunteered to participate in the discussions of both in EURALO and APRALO in order to understand what kind of changes, discussions are taking place and where Armenia is considered to be in accordance to these group discussions.
The easiest way will be the identification of Armenia within Europe, as Armenia is a member of United Nations since March 2, 1992, Armenia is a a member of Council of Europe since January 25, 2001. Currently Armenia works towards becoming a member of the European Union. Armenia is a member of the European ccNSO. Thus, my suggestion is to identify Armenia within Europe, not within Asia Pacific also within ICANN framework.
I am even not sure if I posted my comment in a right place. Sorry if not.
Oksana Prykhodko
Hi,
I fully support Siranush!
Mohamed (Mo) Elbashir
Thank you Siranush for sharing Armenia experience with ICANN regions, i can see Armenia ccTLD is listed within ccNSO in AP region.
Did they requested a change of their region to ccNSO or that was not requested before, ICANN bylaw ( Article IX ) related to ccNSO membership provide an option for region self-selection in according to procedures to be identified by ccNSO council .
Anonymous
Thanks, Oksana.
Mohamed, I am not sure if Armenian ISOC (which is the registry for .am) applied officially for any changes. I talked with the president of ISOC Armenia and he told me that we are in European ccNSO. I will re-check
Anonymous
Dear Mohamed, I have just talked with the president of Armenian ISOC Chapter and clarified one more time that Armenia as a region within ICANN is in Asia Pacific, but at the same time Armenia is a member of CENTR - Council of European National Top Level Domain (TLD) Registries.
Dev Anand Teelucksingh
Please see below the statement from the Caribbean ALSes regarding the Interim Report of the Geographic Regions Review Working Group.
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Caribbean ALSes comments
The defined geographic region of LACRALO has in the past detracted from ICANN’s
goal of reflecting the functional, geographic and cultural diversity of the Caribbean
Region of Internet end-users. This is felt at a basic level via participation on the mailing
list and voicing opinions on matters; as well as relating to larger issues, such as policy
development and voting of ALAC (and other) representatives.
ICANN’s Core Values
We recognise the Initial Report identified representation, participation and operations
as three primary usage categories. Traditionally the Caribbean region has been under
represented and little involution has been made to encourage and increase participation.
The argument for greater input from the Caribbean region is strengthened by the addition
of the concepts of “cultural diversity” and “geographic diversity” to the ICANN Bye
Laws in 2002; the Caribbean being a unique segment of LACRALO in both these
categories and deserving of such recognition. Indeed ICANN, the corporation, has since
2006 employed and tasked an employee to be the Caribbean liaison.
In our view, the mechanism by which ICANN’s core values are applied to RALOs is ill-
defined, but we can apply the guidelines of the bye laws which state:
“Seeking and supporting broad, informed participation reflecting the functional,
geographic, and cultural diversity of the Internet at all levels of policy development and
decision-making.” --Fourth Core Value; and
Also while Article XI, Section 2, Paragraph 4 which deals with ALAC representatives is
silent on this point; we can also apply guidance to enshrine ICANN’s Core Values from:
“…composed of members that in the aggregate display diversity in geography, culture,
skills, experience, and perspective…” --Article VI Section 2
Diversity
We agree in the broader recognition of “diversity” to include additional considerations of
culture and language in the LACRALO. The Caribbean is distinct in terms of its history,
culture and language; further it has indigenous challenges being small island states and
specific needs which are not a natural fit with the rest of Latin America. Due to these
differences LACRALO is able to benefit from varying opinions and has the potential to
be a truly representative region.
One small but important example is the predominant use of English language in the
Caribbean Region, however 90% of the mailing list discussion takes place in Spanish.
With poor translation tools and the particular nuances between languages; we struggle
to understand each other and it becomes almost prohibitively difficult to communicate,
follow topic threads collaborate and participate fully. Interpretation between our two
regions is currently poor and the result is misunderstanding, frustration, duplicated
effort and ultimately lack of participation from our Region; thereby resulting in
under-representation of our particular perspectives and points of view.
Numbers of Internet users
We agree that the only measure of “balance” should not be limited to the number
of internet users in a particular sub-region of LACRALO. Balance must tie into and
promote diversity. This will only occur if it includes the stakeholder groups in various
communities of interest having clear view-points on ICANN’s issues.
Often, because of our diversity we see two clear perspectives emerging on issues- on
one side from the Latin American Region and on the other from the Caribbean Region.
However, since the Caribbean is always in the minority (both in terms of numbers of
ALSes and users) our votes, our participation and our opinions have little impact unless
an ‘arrangement’ is forged with Latin American representatives in order to push a
particular motion (on our behalf).
This is crippling to the Caribbean region’s presence in LACRALO on several levels:
1. It diminishes participation of our members, due to lack of morale when our
perspective is ignored without any consideration and also due to the level of
bureaucracy involved in contributing; and
2. It increases the challenge to recruit new members and ALSes because of this sense of
pseudo-involvement, marginalism and non-engagement.
As it stands, on many occasions the Caribbean voice in LACRALO is indirectly but
effectively diminished.
Those not represented
We have not had any input from the Caribbean end-user groups in Martinique,
Guadeloupe, French Guyana, Curacao, Bonaire, Aruba, Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands
or British Virgin Islands with regard to their issues with being aligned to their mother
country. But we encourage that their opinion be sought out by the Working Group.
Striking Balance
We have clearly identified these areas as opportunities to create balance and build a
more united LACRALO, and are supportive of the GNSO Principle on Potential Change
of Regions (August 2008) which states that “ICANN regions should seek to balance
three goals: diversity of representation, ease of participation, and simplicity” and
such simplicity “should be balanced with the evolving needs of ICANN’s supporting
organisations and other bodies.”
A Path Forward
Today the “C” in LACRALO means “CROSSROADS”. There are several options:
1. Stay
We recognise that as a while we do have two different perspectives on many matters,
LACRALO as a whole is poised to become stronger and more inclusive by recognising,
reviewing and where possible representing both views. In the Caribbean we perceive our
differences as strengths, which give us two separate but equally important vantage points
to appreciate the whole. As such, we consider that the Latin American Region not only
gains from our perspective in conformance with ICANN’s Core Values, but also benefits
by our native and dexterous use of English in reading, discussing, presenting arguments
and written contribution on behalf of the entire region of LACRALO.
At times, we have not felt willingness by our partners to look beyond their blinkers
but we are hopeful that they will recognise the importance of building a framework of
balance, not only in light of the above but to create unity and cohesion in LACRALO.
In order to encourage this step and in consideration of the diversity of representation,
ease of participation, and simplicity goals highlighted above, we have proposed a
LACRALO Bye Law modification, such that one of the LACRALO Representatives to
ALAC come from the Caribbean Region. This remains our preferred option.
2. Seek alignment with NARALO
While we have to go back a few centuries to find commonality in our histories, both
NARALO and the Caribbean Region share the same language and akin perspectives on
many areas, including our view of democracy. These positives give a strong impression
that the Caribbean may find a better fit with NARALO in order to contribute and
represent.
We are fully aware that it is near impossible to find perfect alignment as the Caribbean
region has a clear identity and there will always be distinct aspect of our perspective. In
this respect the Caribbean region will only add to the diversity and widen the viewpoint
of whichever RALO it belongs to; what is crucial is that value be given to that view when
it is expressed.
3. New “Small Island Developing State” RALO (SIDSRALO)
We recognise that adding a new region to the existing geographic regional framework
results in increased costs for ICANN and perhaps reduced net budget for each RALO.
Despite this cost issue, we recognise that the Core Values must prevail and there is merit
in having a new grouping specific to the needs of Small Island Developing States like
ours.
Many of the smaller islands in our region are not represented because of limited
resources and we agree that ICANN’s structures and processes should lower barriers
for participation and engagement by community members as much as practicable. By
forming this new grouping we can leverage on our collective skills to support smaller
members not only in the Caribbean but globally, who will have almost identical issues.
Perhaps the main drawback with a SIDSRALO would be that we would be geographically dispersed and have to travel long distances
for face to face meetings such as a General Assembly.
4. Hybrid
This is a mix of option 1 or 2 with the additional support of forming a special interest
group by small Islands or similar culture groupings. This is a mechanism of gaining the
benefits of both worlds and would facilitate that our voices are represented in both ways.
However, this would require additional funding to facilitate representation at meetings,
calls, working groups etc. of the particular special interest group.
Closing Points
The Caribbean ALSes consider that the Interim Report of the Geographic Regions
Working Group documents the existing situation, highlights the issues arising and
connects these to ICANN’s Core Values. We however feel that there must be a much
firmer embrace of ICANN Core values in terms of balance, representation, participation.
Notwithstanding the differences and issues that exist, the Caribbean has a deep level
of fidelity and attachment, and we wish to work and function as an equal partner
in LACRALO. In this statement we have highlighted options to provide balanced
contributions and acknowledge that the simplest of these can be realised in the immediate
sense with a few adjustments to LACRALO Charter.
We laud the Working Group, specifically with regard to identifying and detailing the
specific needs of Small Island Developing States and will readily endorse such grouping
in whatever form. We hope that this step forward is not negated by issues of funding, as
the underlying aim of this assessment is to encourage ICANN’s Core Values. We must
always seek out, cherish and ensure effective representation.