Terri Agnew:Dear all, welcome to the At-Large Ad-hoc WG on the Transition of US Government Stewardship of the IANA Function on Monday, 24 November 2014 at 15:00 UTC

  Terri Agnew:meeting page: https://community.icann.org/x/iTnxAg

  Yasuichi Kitamura:hi, all

  Glenn McKnight:We were double booked this time for the TTF  call today too

  Fatima Cambronero:hello everyone

  Glenn McKnight:@terry  I just spoke with Dev

  Alberto Soto:Hi all!

  Terri Agnew:Review of Action Items from the meeting of 17 November 2014https://community.icann.org/x/xDXxAg

  Terri Agnew:Announcement of more IANA Coordination Group Calls: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2-2014-11-04-en

  Terri Agnew:Next IANA Coordination Group Call - Wednesday 27 November 2014: https://community.icann.org/x/CDHxAg

  Terri Agnew:RIPE69 http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings

  Terri Agnew:At-Large Ad-hoc WG on the Transition of US Government Stewardship of the IANA Function: https://community.icann.org/x/OYThAg

  Fatima Cambronero:exactlly. Thanks @Olivier

  Alberto Soto:https://www.afrinic.net/images/stories/Initiatives/%20survey%20on%20the%20iana%20stewardship%20transition.pdf

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Draft IETF Response: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ianaplan/current/msg01375.html

  Seun Ojedeji:http://meeting.afrinic.net/afrinic-21/en/agenda/agenda#day-6-27th-nov

  Terri Agnew: IANA CWG Face-to-Face Meeting (Meeting #7) (19-20 November): https://community.icann.org/x/iy3xAg

  Fatima Cambronero:Current Drafts https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocwgdtstwrdshp/Current+Drafts

  Terri Agnew:Introduction, Review of Agenda, Timeline & Principles : https://community.icann.org/x/dTfxAg

  Terri Agnew:Review of 1, 2A, 2B: https://community.icann.org/x/ezfxAg

  Terri Agnew:RFP 3: https://community.icann.org/x/fTfxAg

  Terri Agnew:RFP 3; https://community.icann.org/x/gDfxAg

  Terri Agnew:Additional RFP3 Session:https://community.icann.org/x/RznxAg

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:The At-Large preferred positions had been laid out on: https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/49363337/17.11%20StrawmanMatrix%20WORKING%20DOCUMENT.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1416437420000&api=v2

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:so we had worked from that. But then going through the options one by one was scrapped

  Seun Ojedeji:@olivier is that the url?

  Terri Agnew:Welcome Dev Anand Teelucksingh

  Glenn McKnight:Yes  Alan  spoke low

  Seun Ojedeji:that took us to the strawman

  Loris Taylor:Was the group provided with jurisdictional analysis regarding the 3 proposed strawmen?

  Seun Ojedeji:@Loris strawman was not on discussion

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:@Loris: we stopped discussing the strawman before it even started

  Loris Taylor:Thank you

  Fatima Cambronero:RFP 4 (13:00 - 14:30 UTC on Tuesday 25 November) < call

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Thank Fatima

  Seun Ojedeji:yup

  Seun Ojedeji:Thanks Fatima

  Seun Ojedeji:the co-coordinators for RFP 4 are: Sivasubramanian Muthusamy (At-Large)Robert Guerra (SSAC)

  Terri Agnew:Resulting Flow Chart of the groups to be created: https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/49363337/IANA%20Transition%20Flow%20Chart%20-%20version%201.3%2021%20November%202014.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1416829726239&api=v2

  Fatima Cambronero:agree with @Seun, I don't understand how can advance in the RFP4

  Glenn McKnight:ok

  Fatima Cambronero:Does this flow chart including the last comments made by Donna?

  Glenn McKnight:We  are looking for the attendees to provide their insights

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:@Fatima: yez

  Fatima Cambronero:it is not clear for me how is the composition and the functions of this Committee

  Fatima Cambronero:thanks @Olivier

  Fatima Cambronero:who are the IANA customers? < my doubt

  Fatima Cambronero:no, sorry. I don't know :(

  Alan Greenberg:NAs customers - not ICANN - the registriees!

  Yasuichi Kitamura:Did those "customer" community send any feed back?

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:@Yasuichui:  registries were represented there

  Yasuichi Kitamura:@olivier, how about IETF?

  Glenn McKnight:Perhaps the  term customer  is too  wide

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:@Yasuichi - I do not know

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:@Yasuichi: I think that the group focussed primarily on the Naming Functions hence this was left open

  Glenn McKnight:Direct  customers  rather than generic end users

  Seun Ojedeji:i think ccTLDs are also somewhat happy with things....the bottle neck is the G''s

  Fatima Cambronero:for me this sounds like we are signing several blank checks...

  Glenn McKnight:Sometimes  you need a glossary of terms,  terms  specific to this document

  Seun Ojedeji:i think that is clear

  Seun Ojedeji:whether its necessary is the question since such operation is already being carried out

  Seun Ojedeji:have no problem with it though so long as they figure out how to determine its members from the lots of ccTLDs and gTLDs

  Fatima Cambronero:we asked a text to accompanied this flow chart, @Glenn. We don't have this yet

  Gordon Chillcott:Sorry, but I have a hard stop now.    I'll spend some time with the recording, as soon as I get the chance.

  Gordon Chillcott:Bye for now.

  Terri Agnew:goodbye Gordon

  Glenn McKnight:Alan  your voice  is getting low

  Glenn McKnight:I agree  that  best practice exists for  arbitration

  Glenn McKnight:Guidelines for  speed of their  decisions  is needed

  Glenn McKnight:It would  a neutral party who would look at  existing policies,  evaluate and proclaim decision.

  Glenn McKnight:Process is simple, it's capacity to deliver quickly is important

  Seun Ojedeji:lost connection

  Fatima Cambronero:thanks @Alan, I understand your explanation. I also think some points should be specified

  Seun Ojedeji:okay

  Alan Greenberg:We are pretty much out of time...

  Glenn McKnight:Got to go

  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:good points being made

  Dev Anand Teelucksingh:got to go also - I'll read the transcript

  Terri Agnew:Welcome Beran Gillen

  Heidi Ullrich:Bye Dev.

  Fatima Cambronero:Please, remember my question to @Cheryl

  Fatima Cambronero:thanks @Cheryl and @Alan for your answers

  Loris Taylor:This has been an excellent call.  Although I am still not clear on the overall structure and how the contracting will tie into that structure and whether there will be jurisdictional protocols via bylaws, contract etc. that need to be identified and worked through.  Thank you so much

  Seun Ojedeji:I think this week is better

  Yasuichi Kitamura:this week

  Fatima Cambronero:new

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr:bye for now all ... Thanks talk whenever this week at some awful time no doubt...

  Seun Ojedeji:thanks

  Seun Ojedeji::)

  Loris Taylor:Bye for now everyone. 

  Heidi Ullrich:Thanks, All!

  Alberto Soto:thanks!! bye bye!!

  Yasuichi Kitamura:bye all

  Beran Gillen:thanks bye

  Fatima Cambronero:thanks all! Bye

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