Terri Agnew:Welcome to the ALAC Leadership Team (ALT) Monthly Meeting on Thursday 28th August 2014 at 21:00 UTC
Terri Agnew:meeting page: https://community.icann.org/x/VgLxAg
Alan Greenberg:Yes, btut not on bridge yet.
Evan Leibovitch:I have tried being on some calls participating only by chat. Results have been mixed.
Evan Leibovitch:And I do brown if I'm feeling like.....
Heidi Ullrich:Hi All
Alan Greenberg:And I am GREEN
Holly Raiche:I prefer purple
Alan Greenberg:But then, I am always green(berg)
Heidi Ullrich:I'm in major multi-tasking mode for the first 30 mins. Canadians may recognize the cartoon in the background when I come off of mute...
Heidi Ullrich:https://community.icann.org/display/alacexcomm/ALT+2014.08.18+Action+Items
Alan Greenberg:Cartoon, I don't hear any cartoon.
Evan Leibovitch:Can't hear the cartoon. What is it?
Gisella Gruber:RU channel - Oksana
Evan Leibovitch:I'm pretty sure Oksana was on the russian channel
Heidi Ullrich:ALAC AIs: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ALAC+2014+-08-26+Action+Items
Heidi Ullrich:@Evan - Caillou
Gisella Gruber:We will do an update at the end of the year re language channels for ZH (on APRALO & ALAC) and RU on ALAC as well at PT on LACRALO and the usual ES & FR
Terri Agnew:ALAC 26 August 2014 AI https://community.icann.org/x/lQHxAg
Evan Leibovitch:Ah, thanks. Wouldn't have recognized it.
Maureen Hilyard:@ ALan +1 about certificates
Evan Leibovitch:Yes, agree completely. The difference between a "participation" certificate and a "recognition of achioevement"
Maureen Hilyard:A certificate should recognise something more than participation (participation is a performance metric)
Heidi Ullrich:@Olivier, Rob will not be in Istanbul, but David will be and can pass requests on
Heidi Ullrich:Please note that the ALS participation certificates were a one off - and a request of the ATLAS II organizaiton committee
Heidi Ullrich:Other certificates are based on leadership position
Gisella Gruber:@ Olivier - not sent out yet
Heidi Ullrich:PD page: https://community.icann.org/display/alacpolicydev/At-Large+Policy+Development+Page
Alan Greenberg:Terri said only one was still outstanding
Heidi Ullrich:Join to the multitasking team, Tijani! :)
Ariel Liang:This is the motion: https://community.icann.org/x/9QXxAg
Heidi Ullrich:Stepping away for 5-10 mins
Terri Agnew:Thank you for letting us know Heidi
Heidi Ullrich:back
Julie Hammer:My understanding is that GAC advice must be unanimous or it can't be given.
Julie Hammer:Apologies
Evan Leibovitch:I could argue easily that the issues between governments and ICANN related to TRUST of ICANN by governments.... and "trust" has become the high-level issue, dealing with the issue of ICANN accountability, being addressed now by the Future Challenges WG.
Terri Agnew:Public Comment Page: https://www.icann.org/public-comments
Heidi Ullrich:ALAC call: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ALAC+Monthly+Teleconference+-+2014.08.26
Terri Agnew:26 August ALAC meeting agenda: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ALAC+Monthly+Teleconference+-+2014.08.26
silvia.vivanco@icann.org:• Finally the newly approved ALAC ROPs, in effect as of 2-October-2013 deals with Metrics and Remediation measures in: Section B 9. Performance, Metrics, and Remediation.Note Article “9.4 The ALAC is empowered to set thresholds which the Chair or RALOs could use to monitor performance”. And there is the RoP-Adjunct-02 – Metrics and Remedial Actions for ALAC Members andAppointees, which is not published yet.
silvia.vivanco@icann.org:@ Alan see quote above
Alan Greenberg:@Silvia, those rules relate to performance of people, not ALSes.
silvia.vivanco@icann.org:Alan, thank you for this clarification. Could some of these metrics be used for ALSes as well?
silvia.vivanco@icann.org:NARALO Operating Principles (revision dated 2013 -08-20) deal with metrics in its article 16 as follows: 16. When an ALS representative does not participate in 3 consecutive NARALO elections or does not contribute a comment on ICANN policy through collaboration on the At - Large discussion lists in 12 consecutive months, it automatically loses its voting rights and active status within the NARALO. The ALS should be notified of the status change and may regain its voting rights and active status if within the next 12 months it participates in online discussions, otherwise the Chair will submit to ALAC a request for de-certification of that ALS. In the case of an apparently dormant or non- existent ALS, the Chair may also recommend that the ALS be decertified, providing evidence of such rationale.
Alan Greenberg:@Tijani, and the ALAC has the rights and power to do that. But we need to have a new discussion on just what those requirements are. 2007 was a long time ago.
Alan Greenberg:NARALO does have some criteria which are quantifiable. And some that are less so.
silvia.vivanco@icann.org:and Euralo has a Procedure: How to deal with inactive ALSes. See: https://community.icann.org/display/EURALO/Procedure%3A+How+to+deal+with+inactive+ALSes
silvia.vivanco@icann.org:AFRALO and LACRALO are debating metrics internally
silvia.vivanco@icann.org:There will be a RALO Secretariat's meeting on the week of Sept 8, we can suggest this item
Alan Greenberg:Interestingly, the criteria which are in the ALAC rules and thus span RALOs are not mentioned in any of the RALO rules.
Heidi Ullrich:David Olive will be at the RALO and ALT Workding breakfast as well
Maureen Hilyard: ALAC as the decision-making body should set the minimum standards for ALSes but because of the different compositions of ALSes within the different regions then performance metrics may be a little different per RALO
Maureen Hilyard:We have a lot of Asian ALSes for whom there is no translation available. they don't partcipate as well as English speaking ALSes
silvia.vivanco@icann.org:@ Maureen: 1) APRALO The recently approved ROPs (document AP_ROP_2014 V: 1.3) 26th March 2014, provide for the following:Section B - APRALO and APRALO Associated Responsibilities11. Performance, Metrics and Remediation: Performance, Metrics and Remediation
Maureen Hilyard:Thanks Silvia. I was just trying to find it. :)
silvia.vivanco@icann.org:https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/2266081/APRALO_RoP-Finalv1 3 doc.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1401749832000&api=v2
silvia.vivanco@icann.org:so far APRALO has the most detailed metrics and performance rules
Evan Leibovitch:Sigh. This is sounding depressingly like "RoI" discussions.
Heidi Ullrich:Please note that ATLAS II Rec 28 states: The ALAC should work with all RALOs and ALSes to map the current expertise and interests in their membership, to identify Subject Matter Experts and facilitate policy communication.
Alan Greenberg:@Evan Not really. To go back to the Eagles, We have a situation where ALSes effectively leave but don't check out.
Evan Leibovitch:I will need to go in aboit 10min, as warned in the skype earlier
Alan Greenberg:I was expecting a Hotel California rebuttal!
Terri Agnew:Thank you Evan for letting us know
Holly Raiche:Will have a look
Holly Raiche:Sorry - been away at the auIGF
Evan Leibovitch:You're excused :-)
Evan Leibovitch:We are all upset... arguably for very different reasons :-P
Alan Greenberg:11 minutes before I need to leave.
Terri Agnew:Thank you Alan for letting us know
Maureen Hilyard:I have to leave at the same time - 7 minutes now?
Evan Leibovitch:The ALT itself has NO power
Evan Leibovitch:OK. got to leave now. Apologies. Please follow up in skype for anything that needs my attention
Evan Leibovitch:bye all.
Terri Agnew 2:Bye Evan
Alan Greenberg:May I have 45 seconds to speak on item 6 before I leave?
Heidi Ullrich:dropped
Heidi Ullrich:back...
Alan Greenberg:Have to leave now. I will address item 6 via e-mail.
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:10 seconds
Terri Agnew 2:Los Angeles At-Large Los Angeles Meeting Agendas Workspace: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Los+Angeles+At-Large+Los+Angeles+Meeting+Agendas+Workspace
Maureen Hilyard:sorry all.. I have to leave to return to work :(
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Thanks Maureen
Heidi Ullrich:Bye, Maureen
Terri Agnew 2:Bye Maureen
Heidi Ullrich:@Olivier, would you like the meeting to be with the ALAC + NCSG or the ALT and the NCSG leadership?
Heidi Ullrich:Alan, chime in as well re this...
Gisella Gruber:@ All - ALT Dinner on Saturday 11 October evening. Details TBC closer to the time. A "Save the Date" will be sent out
Heidi Ullrich:Please start posting questions for meetings
Ariel Liang:This is the wiki space for the ICANN 51 Remote Hub, just FYI - https://community.icann.org/x/UsXhAg
Ariel Liang:Technical requirements have been translated into 5 other UN languages + portuguese
Terri Agnew 2:ALT and Liaison Selections : https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+ALAC+and+RALO+Elections%2C+Selections+and+Appointments+-+2014
Ariel Liang:This is the GNSO feedback request: https://community.icann.org/x/JgjxAg
Terri Agnew 2:GNSO feedback request: https://community.icann.org/x/JgjxAg
Heidi Ullrich:thanks!
Ariel Liang:Thank you bye bye
Julie Hammer:bye
