Terri Agnew:Welcome to the At-Large Ad-hoc WG on IANA Transition & ICANN Accountability call on Tuesday, 15 December 2015 at 20:30 UTC
Terri Agnew:meeting page: https://community.icann.org/x/qIxlAw
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Hi
Heidi Ullrich:Rinalia, your line is not good
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:OK, I think you need to dial out to me.
Vanda Scartezini:hi everyone
Terri Agnew:@Rinalia, we will dial out to you.
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Pls dial out to me
Vanda Scartezini:will be just listening i am landins from a flight
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:and there is delay in the line
Sivasubramanian M:What is the name of the other cheese, Oliver ?
Heidi Ullrich:Rinalia is a Board member :)
Terri Agnew:Welcome Tijani Ben Jemaa
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Apparently I am staff today.
Heidi Ullrich::)
Terri Agnew:Action Items 11 December 2015: https://community.icann.org/x/QIdlAw
Terri Agnew:Review of the IANA CWG Meeting #73 (15 December @ 16:00 UTC) : https://community.icann.org/x/1oJlAw
Terri Agnew:Welcome Seun Ojedeji
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:My adobe is really unstable today and there is a seious lag in my chat.
Terri Agnew:@Rinalia, I can also turn slides for you , please just let me know by saying "next slide"
Rinalia2:ok
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:yes and much of the CWG concerns/issues are in fact 'implementation' and could/should be delt with in that work
Terri Agnew:CCWG Accountability: https://community.icann.org/x/IIMHAw
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:hey I sm kinds in the CCWG as well you know OCL ( just a rappourteur ;-)
Terri Agnew:CWG IANA Meeting #73 | 16:00 UTC | Tuesday, 15 December: https://community.icann.org/x/1oJlAw
Sivasubramanian M:Q: Alan/Olivier, what is the summary of user concerns about the various components of the transition proposals, especially related to Accountability, without an inclination to compromise, and without being resigned in helplessnes? In other words, what is the complete list of items in this proposal that you WISH weren't there, and what components that aren't there that you WISH were there?
Rinalia2:showstoppers...we are indeed at crunch time for that.
Rinalia2:couldn't really hear Seun
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:better Seun
Terri Agnew:Welcome Maureen Hilyard
Rinalia2:web very faint
Maureen Hilyard:Hi sorry I'm late
Glenn McKnight: we can hear you
Rinalia2:better now Seb
Gordon Chillcott:I can make it out. Soft but clear
Maureen Hilyard:can hear him very faintly
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:sorry Alan - I have seen the ugly face of ICANN communities in the CCWG Accountability
Alan Greenberg:Olivier, indeed. But luckily, it is not widespread at an AC/SO level, but far more focussed.
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:but the loud mouths appear to rule in some communities. And everyone appears to be afraid of them. Everyone.
Alan Greenberg:Yes, those who speak loud and long (and sometimes first) do hold sway. And that is a real problem with how we work.
Alan Greenberg:Some changes will have INTENDED consequences, but consequences where the intention has never been publicized.
Terri Agnew:Welcome Lawrence OlaWale-Roberts
Lawrence OlaWale-Roberts:sorry am joining late
Lawrence OlaWale-Roberts:thanks Terri
Sivasubramanian M:Some of the CCWG proposal components exhibit the potential for “unintended” consequences of complicating the Transition Proposal process to such an extent that it leads to a situation where any form of rough consensus would be difficult and as a result ICANN weakened. Is there a possibility that some of the components arise from one or two inevitable participants with an unseen agenda?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:agree with you re definition of GPI
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:from *some* in the Community Rnalia not all of us across all the SOs and ACs re GPI
Vanda Scartezini:total ley agree with Alan about nomcomm
Rinalia2:pls make a suggestion and respond to board comments on hip and no comment
Terri Agnew:Welcome Narine Khachatryan
Narine Khachatryan:Hello all!
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Alan: "I think it's shameful!" --- hang on, these are my words!!! :-)
Rinalia2:not hip but global public interest
Alan Greenberg:@Olivier. Please establish a royalty scheme to allow the rest of us to use that phrase as well. It is too applicable to keep to yourself!
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:@Alan: Creative Commons - free for non commercial use, so you're okay
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:<laughs>
Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Thanks Rinalia - very helpful.
Vanda Scartezini:thank you Rinalia for this colear explanation
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Happy to be here with you all.
Lawrence OlaWale-Roberts:I think it should highlight our red lines identified so far
Vanda Scartezini:vote
Gordon Chillcott:Happy Birthday!!
Lawrence OlaWale-Roberts:happy birthday
Maureen Hilyard:Happy Birthday Cheryl!
Alberto Soto -IIISI:CLO, happy Birthday!!!!!
Yrjö Länsipuro:Happy Birthday!
Heidi Ullrich:Happy Birthday, Cheryl!!
Terri Agnew:Wednesday 16 December 2015 at 20:00 UTC Webinar-CCWG Accountability https://community.icann.org/x/kIplAw
Terri Agnew:Wednesday 16 December 2015 at 22:00 UTC: At-Large Briefing on the ALAC Response to the CCWG Accountability 3rd Draft Proposal https://community.icann.org/x/JI1lAw
Sivasubramanian M:Happy Birthday Cheryl
Terri Agnew:Thursday 17 December 2015 at 11:00 UTC: At-Large Briefing on the ALAC Response to the CCWG Accountability 3rd Draft Proposal https://community.icann.org/x/kI1lAw
Alberto Soto -IIISI:Thanks to all!!
Lawrence OlaWale-Roberts:thanks all, bye
Cheryl Langdon-Orr:bye
Rinalia Abdul Rahim:Bye! Thanks Terri.
Gordon Chillcott:Bye now.