Yesim Nazlar: (12/12/2018 19:40) Welcome to the ICANN64 Planning Committee Call taking place on Wednesday, 12 December 2018 at 17:00 UTC

  Yesim Nazlar: (19:40) Agenda: https://community.icann.org/x/fAf_BQ

  John Laprise (ALAC): (19:52) Hello!

  Yesim Nazlar: (19:52) Welcome John!

  Alberto Soto: (20:01) Hello all, again....!

  Marita Moll: (20:02) Hi there

  John Laprise (ALAC): (20:02) So...we meet again...

  Maureen Hilyard: (20:03) Hello Hello...

  Alberto Soto: (20:04) I have many cuts in the audio

  Alberto Soto: (20:05) Only me??

  Yesim Nazlar: (20:05) @Alberto: not on my end

  Alberto Soto: (20:06) Then is my ISP

  Marita Moll: (20:06) sorry, where is the spreadsheet

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (20:07) in a link in the Skyoe chat for this group

  Hadia Elminiawi - ALAC: (20:07) hello all

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (20:07) but also linked of the wiki page/agenda

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (20:07) Hi Hadia

  Yesim Nazlar: (20:07) @Alberto: would you like to have a dial out?

  Alberto Soto: (20:08) No, than, I´m online by phone too

  Hadia Elminiawi - ALAC: (20:08) hi cheryl

  Alberto Soto: (20:08) thanks..

  Hadia Elminiawi - ALAC: (20:08) great alberto

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (20:09) Gisella is a scheduling goddess of course

  Marita Moll: (20:09) yup, got it. thanks

  Yesim Nazlar: (20:10) Welcome Jonathan!

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (20:11) Great JZ  we though you were an apology for this call ... Perfect that you can join the gang

  Maureen Hilyard: (20:12) Great Jonathan. Welcome

  Hadia Elminiawi - ALAC: (20:12) thanks Gisella that was clear

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (20:15) Muted

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (20:16) The J's  (Z and L) had some thoughts on that I vagully remember

  Hadia Elminiawi - ALAC: (20:16) Exactly Gisella so that others can join based on the topic of their interest

  Heidi Ullrich: (20:16) Key AIs from Barcelona for ICANN64; At-Large public meetings to be 80:20 (issues : administration) to prioritize substantive issues going forward.Gisella Gruber / Heidi Ullrich to ensure titles of At-Large sessions to include the substantive topic being discussed (Not just "At-Large Leadership Session #1")Yesim Nazlar to ensure individual name tags should have an end stripe (RALO colors?) to make them more visible when people want to speak.Evin Erdogdu / Heidi Ullrich to ensure an annual CPWG workshop to be held at an ICANN Public meeting. Interested members of At-Large as well as Fellows and NextGen to be invited.

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (20:18) and the Sat SUb Pro will be also the Geo Names work as well, so 1st meeting after close of PC on WT5

  John Laprise (ALAC): (20:18) Suggestion first two Sunday sessions should be working discussion of EPDP and New gTLD subsequent procedures after the two saturday working sessions

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (20:18) note for cross over of interests  in the Geo names SubPro

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (20:19) I'm thrilled to hear this news!

  Hadia Elminiawi - ALAC: (20:19) yes Maureen we can hear you

  Marita Moll: (20:19) Yes, love the idea

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (20:19) and beeive me 909 mins with David  is Well worthwhile

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (20:19) 90 min  (909 would be even better

  Alberto Soto: (20:20) is to mucha...

  Heidi Ullrich: (20:20) This Skills Development session might be one in a series of skill development sessions under the Implementation

  Alberto Soto: (20:20) to much

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (20:20) about 19 sessions Maureen

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (20:21) roughly

  Hadia Elminiawi - ALAC: (20:21) skills development and strategic planning would be a great session

  John Laprise (ALAC): (20:21) Suggestion2:  Sunday AM SoMe (at large only breakfast): Monday AM SoMe (general breakfast)

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (20:24) We also have another SubPro on Wed so John that and any Tue outcomes from policy discussions on SubPro WT1-5 can feed back into that WG F2F as well I hope :-)

  Heidi Ullrich: (20:25) We could do a morning session, early afternoon session and a late afternoon session.

  Heidi Ullrich: (20:26) that would be a way to get into specific topics deeper than in the recent past

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (20:26) there are Natural breaks with the block schedule design  you can bridge topics accross the with intro material /information sharing followed by one or more workshop activities on the topics you select

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (20:27) we could colour code the fellowship and newcommer highlighted session perhaps Hadia

  Hadia Elminiawi - ALAC: (20:27) yes jonathan

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (20:27) not just Yours JZ

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (20:28) I thought they were doing banking and emails JZ ;-)

  Hadia Elminiawi - ALAC: (20:29) +1 cheryl  to colour coding the sessions

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (20:31) can we try doing more with less on each session Agenda  (complements what JZ is proposing

  Hadia Elminiawi - ALAC: (20:32) I totally support what you said Jonathan

  Jonathan Zuck: (20:32) exactly

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (20:34) Start with some changes in Kobe and work towards MORE changes ny Montreal

  Hadia Elminiawi - ALAC: (20:37) Thank you cheryl

  Jonathan Zuck: (20:38) mostly open

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (20:38) We used to have sign up sheets on the wall showing where everyone was planning to be across the whole meetings schedule

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (20:38) all closed Meetings (rare these days) are noted ON the schedule [C]

  Marita Moll: (20:39) Sign up sheets would be good

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (20:39) and remember all the Newcommers and Fellows are going around "shopping" for where they think they will fit best at these times

  Hadia Elminiawi - ALAC: (20:40) I aslo like the idea of the sign up sheets

  John Laprise (ALAC): (20:40) Sorry...I was off for a few minutes...boss's boss dropped by to pick my brain...calling in from work...

  Marita Moll: (20:40) shopping is okay but at some point you have to dance with the ones that brought you

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (20:41) Next Gen unfortunatly are all too often enclaved in their own parallel mock sessions etc, ) but they also venture out as well  

  John Laprise (ALAC): (20:41) support jz suggestions

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (20:42) makes sense

  John Laprise (ALAC): (20:42) It would be good to send out inquiries to other SO/ACs to see if they have anything _new_ they want to run by us. I don't need the annual descriptive dog and pony show

  John Laprise (ALAC): (20:43) Only new

  Daniel K. Nanghaka: (20:43) I think also we need to work on the wording for the respective meeeting such that the new  comers can understand what the discussion is about

  Hadia Elminiawi - ALAC: (20:43) +1 john

  Daniel K. Nanghaka: (20:43) This is like a session description

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (20:44) Yes Daniel but the Main schedule alwasy has plain langiage descriptions

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (20:44) typing in the dark still Sorry

  Maureen Hilyard: (20:44) We do want to have our interactions with other SO/ACs to be more meaningful  and relevant

  Daniel K. Nanghaka: (20:44) But the others are common descriptions that a new comer may not understand

  Heidi Ullrich: (20:45) I believe there will be a workshop with the GSE.

  Maureen Hilyard: (20:45) +1 John..\

  Heidi Ullrich: (20:45) Which might be a larger outreach session

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (20:46) hard to hear

  Heidi Ullrich: (20:46) I would imagine you might wish to speak with Finance as well re the FY201 budget.

  Marita Moll: (20:46) Hard to make out what Hadia is saying

  Yesim Nazlar: (20:46) @Hadia: could you please increase the volume of your mobile?

  Jonathan Zuck: (20:46) @Heidi only if we make it specific

  Heidi Ullrich: (20:47) totally agree

  Hadia Elminiawi - ALAC: (20:49) I was thinking that maybe a meeting with the contracted parties could be beneficial, where we can try to explain what many  users expect from their services, I thought that this could be beneficial with regard to the EPDP discussions, however I would note that march might be already too late to influence the EPDP outcome

  Heidi Ullrich: (20:51) I would try to aim at at least 30 min sessions

  Heidi Ullrich: (20:51) any less than that is too rushed

  Yesim Nazlar: (20:51) Welcome Humberto!

  Humberto Carrasco: (20:51) Hello all

  Humberto Carrasco: (20:52) I just finished a working meeting

  Marita Moll: (20:54) Yes, I was getting at the discussion of how we can be more effective, use the power of ALSs, how that fits in with individual members, etc.

  Heidi Ullrich: (20:54) Great idea, John. This type of session might come at the end of the meeting to enable people to talk to each other after the Kolb leadership skill session and after the Regional Leadership Session.

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (20:56) Surely Cap Bld really belong under O and E these days

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (20:57) Neither is APRALO

  Daniel K. Nanghaka: (20:58) During the O and E meeting Ali will be sharing the activities regarding to Outreach and Engagement

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (20:58) and there are limitations in Japan

  Heidi Ullrich: (20:58) @All, for the various sessions related to O/E, such as the SC on O/E meeting, the regional leaders meeting, and Jonathan's suggestions, could they be scheduled on different days and clearly linked as adding to each other's discussions?

  Heidi Ullrich: (20:59) Too often they have not been joined up despite addressing similar topics.

  Jonathan Zuck: (20:59) Sure

  Silvia Vivanco: (21:00) We created a wiki page to start posting the event (when details are decided): https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/APRALO+Networking+and+Outreach+Events+at+ICANN+64+Kobe

  Heidi Ullrich: (21:00) @Cheryl, do you expect some sort of networking event?

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (21:00) Yes  I do

  Daniel K. Nanghaka: (21:00) Thanks Silvia for sharing the link

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (21:01) but that is a block already accounted for

  Heidi Ullrich: (21:01) As the Gala is Monday, the networkign event on Wed.

  Jonathan Zuck: (21:01) kobe in particular

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (21:01)  ALSO the APAC Hib Meeting once set will engage most of us and we should either not clash with it OR enshrine it as part of our session planning

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (21:02) Hib-Hub

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (21:02) Fixed date and time or 2 time rotatio planned out on calanders is a blessing for me so YES please

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (21:03) Can we meet after the next OandE call then

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (21:03) then short break for the seasonal observances

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (21:04) meetin start of NY

  Jonathan Zuck: (21:05) and do them to...

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (21:05) so true  JZ ;-)

  Jonathan Zuck: (21:05) f8ne

  Heidi Ullrich: (21:05) Why not on the 20th?

  Daniel K. Nanghaka: (21:05) I am all fine with the schedule

  Daniel K. Nanghaka: (21:06) Absolutely

  Daniel K. Nanghaka: (21:06) best after the O&E meeting

  Daniel K. Nanghaka: (21:07) 1800hrs

  Daniel K. Nanghaka: (21:07) Or 1745hrs

  Daniel K. Nanghaka: (21:07) UTC

  Jonathan Zuck: (21:08) what happened to the 21st?

  Heidi Ullrich: (21:08) It is Saturday in Oz.

  Jonathan Zuck: (21:08) ah

  Heidi Ullrich: (21:09) We care, Cheryl!

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (21:09) squeeze away just check my current calendar PLEASE

  Jonathan Zuck: (21:09) we also care about her schedule being too Tight as well

  Heidi Ullrich: (21:09) We can do a Doodle for the 20th and 21st

  Humberto Carrasco: (21:10) yes

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (21:10) Yes just do it

  Alberto Soto: (21:10) yes

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (21:10) 1800 UTC  ditch the doodle

  Marita Moll: (21:10) Doodle would be good

  Jonathan Zuck: (21:11) Doodle needs a better outlook plugin

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (21:11) then you are all going to choose times I am booked for and I will no doubt end up doing two calls at once again...

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (21:11) whatever

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (21:11) Jan 3

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (21:12) how about Jan 7 then

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (21:12) Yup new week

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (21:13) Good to get them scheduled ahead PLEASE

  Daniel K. Nanghaka: (21:14) It would be good to have a timeline to have all the content ready

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (21:14) we need to push lost through together into the wiki and Gforms going  before the 7th can be facilitated vis the Skype chat

  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (@CLO3): (21:14) Bye for now then...  yes it needs to be weekly (at least)

  Jonathan Zuck: (21:15) Thanks

  Daniel K. Nanghaka: (21:15) Thank you all and bye

  Alberto Soto: (21:15) Thanks , bye bye!!

  Hadia Elminiawi - ALAC: (21:15) Thank you all  and bye for now

  Humberto Carrasco: (21:15) bye bye

  Marita Moll: (21:15) See in a while

  Hadia Elminiawi - ALAC: (21:15) see you in a while

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